Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

The squeaky wheel, and its money, gets the grease. That's the NRA. Note also that in order to win a seat you have to first win your party's nomination. Pretty much no Republican can win a nomination by being anything other than pro-gun, even if most constituents are otherwise.
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
 
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
Yeah, maybe. I haven't looked it up, but I suspect that while a majority of Americans support tighter gun control, it's not an overwhelming majority. And probably heavily weighted toward Democrats, with a majority of Republicans being more in favor of guns. Independents probably favor control, but aren't going to be significantly involved in party nominations. So Republicans will continue to nominate gun advocates and thanks to the constitution and gerrymandering, control most states and have disproportionate influence in the US Senate.
 
Yeah, maybe. I haven't looked it up, but I suspect that while a majority of Americans support tighter gun control, it's not an overwhelming majority. And probably heavily weighted toward Democrats, with a majority of Republicans being more in favor of guns. Independents probably favor control, but aren't going to be significantly involved in party nominations. So Republicans will continue to nominate gun advocates and thanks to the constitution and gerrymandering, control most states and have disproportionate influence in the US Senate.
And kids will continue to be shot. Two big dots right next to each other that some people just refuse to join.
 
And who elects those representatives? Most USAians. The ones who (we are told) want to prevent the endemic gun killings.
It's been repeatedly said that, presented with policies without being told what party they come from, the US electorate prefer Democratic Party policies like gun control, universal healthcare, progressive taxation and the like.

They've also been told that the Democrats will destroy America so they vote Republican and end up with policies they don't love. Go figure
 
So I guess we're just not talking about Phoenix Ikner then?


So I guess we're just not talking about Trea’land Ty’rell Castille then?

 
Whatabout whatabout whatabout. Feel like talking about Phoenix Ikner?


No, not really. No more so than the hundreds, maybe thousands, of others I have posted about over the years.

I know why you want to talk about this shooting, but the only aspect about it that I find interesting is how absolutely rare it is compared to the rest of the mass shootings that happens every year.

Whatabout whatabout whatabout is exactly what you're doing with this shooting.

"There have been 83 mass shootings so far this year… but what about this one, it's special and needs to be talked about!?"
 
That white supremacists aren't a threat.


I've never said they aren't a threat. However, I have said that when it comes to mass shootings, the threat from white supremacists is minuscule relative to all of the others.

If I'm not mistaken, the last mass shooting at the hands of a White supremacist was Lewiston, Maine in October 2023. There were 676 mass shootings that occurred in between that shooting and the shooting at FSU. Minuscule.
 
You have constantly downplayed the threat. I don't care if you think the threat from white supremacists is "miniscule", it's still a threat.

This entire thread is a great big whatabout.
 
I thought that what Bogative was providing evidence against was the claim that, top law enforcement officials said, "the biggest domestic terror threat comes from white supremacists."?
 
I thought that what Bogative was providing evidence against was the claim that, top law enforcement officials said, "the biggest domestic terror threat comes from white supremacists."?

More specifically, I was countering Joseph "Pedo Peter" Biden's claim.
 
Just another drawback of a two party, right and far right, system. Of course "most USAians" who want to prevent the endemic gun killings could get involved in the party's nomination systems. If they really cared enough.
Most USAians, over 85%, think that abortion should be legal in all or some circumstances. Yet their elected representatives are busy banning it.
 
It's been repeatedly said that, presented with policies without being told what party they come from, the US electorate prefer Democratic Party policies like gun control, universal healthcare, progressive taxation and the like.

They've also been told that the Democrats will destroy America so they vote Republican and end up with policies they don't love. Go figure
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You post continued the discussion regarding the differences between what USAians want from the politicians and what they vote for.
My comment was regarding shootings - the topic of the thread. And follows from the claim that most USAians want to prevent the endemic gun killings.
 
2 double-digit mass shootings in April.

April 13 – 2 killed, 9 wounded – unauthorized park party – Conway, Arkansas
4 black males.
Tyler Antonio Jamel Farris
Ryan Goins
Kemarie Tyrone Johnson
Keydrick Roddrell Johnson


April 26 – 11 wounded – street gathering – Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
Black male. Jerrius Davis
 
See? It's actually the blacks who are the problem, not white supremacists.

That's how it sounds when you say the quiet part out loud.
 
Not even hiding it.


No, not even a little bit. My purpose here over the last several years has been to expose the truth about who really commits the overwhelming majority of mass shootings, why would I hide it?

I gather you are one of those types of "skeptics" who thinks telling the truth is racist somehow.
 
No, not even a little bit. My purpose here over the last several years has been to expose the truth about who really commits the overwhelming majority of mass shootings, why would I hide it?

I gather you are one of those types of "skeptics" who thinks telling the truth is racist somehow.
But not interested in the solution to these mass killings.
 
No, not even a little bit. My purpose here over the last several years has been to expose the truth about who really commits the overwhelming majority of mass shootings, why would I hide it?

I gather you are one of those types of "skeptics" who thinks telling the truth is racist somehow.
You're not "telling the truth". At best, you're just reporting some statistics that happen to tell a narrative you're invested in.

Tell me the truth now: what do you think these statistics mean? Why do you think these statistics are the way they are?
 
Also, Bogey's stats confirm that if the USA removed guns from everyone, including not just the "black terrorists" of which he is so fond of touting, the gun-kill rates should plummet.

Oh, wait...

That means he and his fellow MAGA can't have guns either. They just want to blame those with black and brown skins, not the general access to guns.

Got it. Seig Heil.
 
That would be outside the scope of this discussion, I'd say. Let's first get a clear picture of what's actually happening. Sceptics shouldn't be afraid of uncomfortable truths.
You've had a clear picture for decades, the " uncomfortable truth" is that the USA has a terrible and horrific issue caused by lack of effective gun control.
 
Also, Bogey's stats confirm that if the USA removed guns from everyone, including not just the "black terrorists" of which he is so fond of touting

I have "touted" black terrorists, have I? Got a quote?

Of course you don't because you are a liar. I have never typed or used the words "black terrorists" together on this board or anywhere for that matter. ****ing pathetic.
 
3 killed, 5 injured after mass shooting at restaurant in Glendale, Arizona.


"It was among 97 mass shootings so far this year in the United States, with four or more people wounded or killed, not including shooters, according to Gun Violence Archive."

Sigh... I agree in principle with gun control, not being born or raised in the US, but I suspect it wouldn't be the solution that some people think it is.
 
3 killed, 5 injured after mass shooting at restaurant in Glendale, Arizona.

This is one of those shootings we don't really talk about – there were no white supremacists involved so it doesn't matter as much, for some reason.

Same goes for the mass shooting in Houston yesterday where 1 was killed and 15 wounded. Just not that newsworthy because there was no white supremacist terrorism involved.
 
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This is one of those shootings we don't really talk about – there were no white supremacists involved so it doesn't matter as much, for some reason.

Same goes for the mass shooting in Houston yesterday where 1 was killed and 15 wounded. Just not that newsworthy because there was no white supremacist terrorism involved.
The story doesn't say that the shooters were black, either. It doesn't say anything at all about who they are. How do you know there were no white supremacists involved?
 
The story doesn't say that the shooters were black, either. It doesn't say anything at all about who they are. How do you know there were no white supremacists involved?

Because if there were white supremacists involved, the whole world would've known already.
I'm not saying the shooters were black, just that they are not white supremacists. Both of these will be run-of-the-mill retard culture shootings.
 
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