This thread has been created to allow the poster GMB to debate his claims with willing forum members, without disturbing other threads.
The title has been taken straight from one of GMB's posts:
I will not quote the messages that GMB posted prior to his suspension, but to get the discussion started, I will quote some of the messages that he posted after he had returned, which reiterate his position and claims:
Enjoy.
The title has been taken straight from one of GMB's posts:
Since the question cannot be answered the theory of special relativity is wrong. Simple as that. I can see you are holding back a lot of non-falsifiable garbage.
I will not quote the messages that GMB posted prior to his suspension, but to get the discussion started, I will quote some of the messages that he posted after he had returned, which reiterate his position and claims:
The appeal to "frame of reference" is a perpetual series of spoon-bender distractions. There is only one relevant "frame of reference" and that frame of reference is REALITY.
Always when we see the phrase "frame of reference" we are asked to take seriously appeals to pseudo-science since in all such cases no evidence is ever offered or yet even capable of being offered.
We need to follow the example of the Amazing Randi and chase out every last bit of voodoo from academic life and not merely from stage acts.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QlfMsZwr8rc
"Relativity of simultaneity means that two events that are simultaneous in one frame are not simultaneous in another. "
This is rubbish and there is no such thing. Yet people are prattling on failing to distinguish between their version of what the theory says, and what would happen in reality. To interpret this theory as if it were revealed truth is to make a stooge of oneself. If something is simultaneous it is simultaneous IN REALITY and this reality is not dependent on this "frame of reference" sleight of hand.
In fact there can never be anything such as time dilation. Since there is no time to dilate. Time being merely a derived concept, derived from simultaneity and regular motion.
Its really very rude for people to prattle on in the vain when they know they have absolutely no evidence whatsoever for these spoon-bending absurdities. If two events are simultaneous they are simultaneous no matter what. No evidence exists otherwise or ever could exist otherwise. Everything that happens simultaneous happens at the same time everywhere. And in that last sentence the word time is a redundancy since time itself is derived from this simultaneity.
Note that spoon-bender-central could not make up its mind about the Dingle refutation. The official story about the clocks running slower than eachother was a committee decision and not something that the theory originally resolved. But our spoon-benders came out with at least 3 different answers anyway. Since we have had at least three versions of which clock ticks slower. The twins refutation IS the clocks refutation. They are the same refutation. They are the very same story. Notions to do with the aging of cells under acceleration are speculative. But notions to do with this same matter under different velocities are not. Since velocity is a relative concept. Hence it is ACCELERATION that we need to investigate as to its effect on this or that. Not velocity.
"Except that it's been experimentally observed. Small fly in your ointment there, pal."
No it hasn't. There is no such thing as time dilation. Any effect so observed may be related to acceleration. But all this spoon-bender talk, to the contrary notwithstanding, it has not been observed with regard to velocity and never could be.
Lets hope that from now on, spoon-benders-united, can word things, so as to differentiate between reality and their own personal version of this failed and self-contradictory theory.
The problem is that the priesthood has been taken over by maths-boy 101. Its as if they chased out the natural philosophers and brought in Rainman. In fact the maths-barrier is the only reason the spoon-benders have been able to prevail in this area. In economics its the pull of parasitism. Here its the shield of advanced maths.
Being as the clocks and twins refutation are the self-same refutation spoon-benders everywhere might want to contemplate how three or more answers to the same refutation were possible. I'm not sure I want to know your explanations actually. It will be the same nonsense and "look over there!!!!" distractions.
But there can be no doubt about it that the refutation stands. At least it stands while any skeptics are still in the room while the spoon-bender goes to work. What we are not going to see is people scrambling over each-other to prove that this nonsense has been experimentally observed.
Directly below what do we see? A clarification of which answer to the clocks refutation spoon-benders are going to keep a united front on? I don't THINK!!!so. Well perhaps we see the evidence forthcoming for the wrong notion that time dilation has been experimentally verified? No thats not what we see directly below either.
Instead what we see is spoon-bender-central asking skeptics to leave the room. All skeptics must leave the room. Only the credulous and other spoon-benders need apply to stay on. Hurts their aura does this skepticism. Makes their powers weak.
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