The Truth about RFK Jr

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Clear and present danger.

This stupid mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊ ignores the lifelong disabilites and conditions measles sometimes cause. It was ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ eradicated here, but willful ignorance brought it back.

I hate these people.
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don't say anything bad about the guy in charge of national healthcare that doesn't think sick kids count as people worth helping. might turn some of his supporters off and they'll start voting for something even worse to teach you a lesson.
 

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at 1:38 rfk jr says trump was taking $100m from the pharmaceutical industry, but can't be bought. trump nods in agreement.
 
RFK Jr and gang will have access to fake abortion pill data.
Now, Trump’s new FDA commissioner, Marty Makary, is under pressure to restrict access to the drug. Pressed by reporters at the Semafor World Economy Summit late last month, Makaray said that he had “no plans” to review the status of mifepristone. But he added a crucial caveat: that he would reconsider the drug’s accessibility if new information emerged about the drug’s safety. “If the data suggests something or tells us that there’s a real signal, we can’t promise that we’re not going to act on that data,” he said.
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Conservatives are trumpeting a new abortion-pill study. One problem: it’s bogus | Moira Donegan

The FDA chief suggested he wouldn’t crack down on mifepristone without new data. Conveniently, misleading research emerged within days
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In msg #1479 I quoted portions of an interview with the head of NIH. Much of David Gorski's latest essay at Science Based Medicine covers this interview, but I wanted to focus on one paragraph: "Canceling grants supporting clinical trials is particularly wasteful, because not only does it prevent funded trials from accruing new patients, but it makes it impossible to follow and collect data on the patients already in the trial. Basically, much, if not all, of the data already collected is wasted because the trial, unless near the end of accrual, will not have enough patients to produce a statistically significant result." A couple of months ago David Weinberg wrote a compelling essay at SBM on the cancellation of USAIDs clinical trials.
 
Associated Press brought together some of Surgeon General-nominee Casey Means' quotes. "People started to really see that maybe we shouldn't be, like, trusting the experts blindly," she said. "Maybe there is such deep, like, corporate capture of industry and honestly corruption of our medical data and information that like, we have to kind of question everything." These are similar to RFK Jr.'s thoughts.
 
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Chris_Halkides said:
Associated Press brought together some of Surgeon General-nominee Casey Means' quotes. "People started to really see that maybe we shouldn't be, like, trusting the experts blindly," she said. "Maybe there is such deep, like, corporate capture of industry and honestly corruption of our medical data and information that like, we have to kind of question everything." These are similar to RFK Jr.'s thoughts.
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Like wow! Like does that mean we can wonder if Casey Means is like, stupid and incompetent? Like maybe?
 
More from the AP article: "“When you go to the science with a root cause perspective, you go back to PubMed with a slightly different perspective, not how do I treat these diseases once they emerge, but why are they happening, you see a very obvious blaring answer,” she told podcaster Joe Rogan on his show last October in a discussion about public health. “It’s all caused by metabolic dysfunction, a term that I never learned in medical school.”
And:
"Means attributes a wide range of chronic diseases to those factors. She argued on “The Megyn Kelly Show” in September that COVID-19 “was really fundamentally a metabolic disease” that more seriously affected people who were compromised because of “lifestyle-related and food-related diseases.”

I presume that the metabolic disease in the second paragraph is the same as "metabolic dysfunction" in the first paragraph, although I am not certain of it. I note that there is something called metabolic syndrome. Links at CBS News and at the Cleveland Clinic makes me believe that metabolic dysfunction is a recognized term, and one that is apparently broader than metabolic syndrome.
 
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Associated Press brought together some of Surgeon General-nominee Casey Means' quotes. "People started to really see that maybe we shouldn't be, like, trusting the experts blindly," she said. "Maybe there is such deep, like, corporate capture of industry and honestly corruption of our medical data and information that like, we have to kind of question everything." These are similar to RFK Jr.'s thoughts.
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It's willfully ignorant vandalism. I am sure there is research out there that is not legitimate or value for money. That means review what is happening then make recommendations. Instead they have destroyed everything, no matter how worthy it is, and it can't just be continued where it left off.

I am all in favour of preventative health getting more funding but they are putting up a false dichotomy.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
More from the AP article: "“When you go to the science with a root cause perspective, you go back to PubMed with a slightly different perspective, not how do I treat these diseases once they emerge, but why are they happening, you see a very obvious blaring answer,” she told podcaster Joe Rogan on his show last October in a discussion about public health. “It’s all caused by metabolic dysfunction, a term that I never learned in medical school.”
And:
"Means attributes a wide range of chronic diseases to those factors. She argued on “The Megyn Kelly Show” in September that COVID-19 “was really fundamentally a metabolic disease” that more seriously affected people who were compromised because of “lifestyle-related and food-related diseases.”

I presume that the metabolic disease in the second paragraph is the same as "metabolic dysfunction" in the first paragraph, although I am not certain of it. I note that there is something called metabolic syndrome. Links at CBS News and at the Cleveland Clinic makes me believe that metabolic dysfunction is a recognized term, and one that is apparently broader than metabolic syndrome.
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Metabolic dysfunction and metabolic syndrome are on a spectrum, dysfunction precedes syndrome. The concept has been around for a long time, that she didn't pay attention at medical school is not a surprise.
 
a_unique_person said:
Every time there have been attempts to be pro-active with preventative health measures by the Democrats they have been crucified for interfering in people's lives.

I can recall the attempt to limit the serving size of junk food like high sugar soft drinks.
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The difference here is that RFK Jnr and his crew won't take any steps to improve the health of the US population, they will simply remove access to conventional (i.e. demonstrably effective) treatments and then blame people for getting sick.

So they won't legislate to reduce serving sizes or sugar levels (low sugar drinks in the UK are cheaper because the tax is lower so now there are comparatively few full sugar drinks as manufacturers have moved to producing low and no sugar versions) but they will restrict access to diabetes treatments (especially for the poor and ethnic minorities) and blame them for not living more healthy lifestyles.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Shoot these people in the foot, then stop them going to hospital. Tell them to "eat more healthy" to get over their injuries instead.
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Yup, that's pretty much it.

The key to all of this is that if you get sick or injured then it's all your fault for not having a healthy enough lifestyle and/or good enough genes.
 
At Substack Paul Offit wrote, "By embracing the benefits of measles infection, RFK Jr. has done everything he can to encourage this outbreak. He has also said nothing about the growing pertussis epidemic, which has now killed children in Washington, Louisiana, South Dakota, and Idaho. Nor has he said anything about the 216 children who have died this season from influenza—a death rate in children not seen since the global flu pandemic in 2009. All these outbreaks are caused by undervaccination." The pertussis toxin adds an adeonsinediphosphoribosyl group to the alpha subunit of an inhibitory trimeric G protein, preventing its inhibition of adenylyl cyclase.
 
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At Substack Paul Offit wrote, "By embracing the benefits of measles infection, RFK Jr. has done everything he can to encourage this outbreak. He has also said nothing about the growing pertussis epidemic, which has now killed children in Washington, Louisiana, South Dakota, and Idaho. Nor has he said anything about the 216 children who have died this season from influenza—a death rate in children not seen since the global flu pandemic in 2009. All these outbreaks are caused by undervaccination." The pertussis toxin adds an adeonsinediphosphoribosyl group to the alpha subunit of an inhibitory trimeric G protein, preventing its inhibition of adenylyl cyclase.
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But he is just trying to get the child morality rates back up to where nature dictates they should be. Really we have gotten far to used to the expectation that all your kids would reach adulthood. Traditional family values means burying a couple of kids.
 
ponderingturtle said:
But he is just trying to get the child morality rates back up to where nature dictates they should be. Really we have gotten far to used to the expectation that all your kids would reach adulthood. Traditional family values means burying a couple of kids.
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And if you can't kill them by preventable diseases, there's always the regular school mass-shooting schedule with decent odds of a hit or two.
 
CNN reported, "Pertussis is especially dangerous in infants. Globally, it is a significant cause of disease and death in infancy, according to the World Health Organization. About 1 in 3 babies younger than 1 year old infected with pertussis will need care in the hospital, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC statistics also indicate that about 1 in 5 of those hospitalized develop pneumonia, 1 in 50 have convulsions, and about 1 in 100 will die from their complications. In addition, there are people with preexisting health conditions that may be exacerbated by pertussis. These include those who are immunocompromised or have moderate to severe asthma." Declining vaccination rates are likely to be one reason why levels have increased recently. Another possible reason is that masking and isolation during Covid-19 reduced the likelihood of transmission, but with the end of these effects, levels are rising.
 
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I was trying to figure out a response of that sort but my rhetorical skill turned around and shot me instead, so you get the points.
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Thanks but declined. I was concerned that my attempt at humour might be construed as gross and macabre on account that it might actually come true...more than once.
 
The Don said:
(low sugar drinks in the UK are cheaper because the tax is lower so now there are comparatively few full sugar drinks as manufacturers have moved to producing low and no sugar versions)
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Splashed out on some Irn-Bru 1901 (i.e. original recipe, sugary delight) today. 80p a can (and that's from a four-pack, after loyalty card discount). Contrast that with the supermarket's own brand 2l lemonade with Sucralose™ (blehh) at 40p.
 
Psuedoscience says . . .

The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday announced it will begin the process of pulling prescription fluoride drops and tablets for children off the market. The supplements are usually given to kids at high risk for cavities.

The federal government and some state legislatures are increasingly drawing attention to what they claim are the risks associated with fluoride, a mineral that’s been used for decades in community water systems, toothpastes and mouth rinses to prevent tooth decay.


Dentists fiercely contest the notion that the harms of fluoride outweigh the benefits.

“The only side effect that we know of from using fluoride is dental fluorosis,” a cosmetic issue that leads to white or, in extreme cases, brown marks on teeth, said Margherita Fontana, professor and chair of the department of cariology, restorative sciences and endodontics at the University of Michigan.

FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary said in a news release that he's instructing the agency's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research “to evaluate the evidence regarding the risks of systemic fluoride exposure from FDA-regulated pediatric ingestible fluoride prescription drug products to better inform parents and the medical community on this emerging area.”
The news release suggested that ingested fluoride can alter a child’s gut microbiome and cause weight gain, thyroid disorders and “possibly decreased IQ.”

“The best way to prevent cavities in children is by avoiding excessive sugar intake and good dental hygiene,” Makary said.

Experts agree that the U.S. diet has far too much sugar, which is linked to chronic diseases like obesity and type 2 diabetes.

“Those are the same diets that will completely destroy our teeth. But the reason our teeth have been able to succeed in this modern diet is because of the fluoride products that we have,” Fontana said. “If we start removing them, we’re going to be where our grandparents or great-grandparents were, with dentures at young ages.”

The FDA said the evaluation should be completed by Oct. 31.
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TragicMonkey said:
They're working on reducing school shootings by getting rid of public schools. Think of the millions (of dollars) that will be saved!
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True, but think about the more expensive and high-powered guns kids will have access to in private/charter schools.
 
We really need together RFK to address the dangers of golf courses.
Barrow Neurological Institute and Mayo Clinic-led researchers report an association between living near golf courses and increased Parkinson's disease (PD) risk in a study published in JAMA Network Open.
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Golf course proximity linked to higher Parkinson's disease risk

Barrow Neurological Institute and Mayo Clinic-led researchers report an association between living near golf courses and increased Parkinson's disease (PD) risk in a study published in JAMA Network Open.
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If they are a cause of Parkinson'd could they explain the rise in autism? What are the rates of autism in children living near golf courses?
 
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Gulliver Foyle said:
I get you, especially as it's your home being trashed. But I read out of a macabre fascination, like rubbernecking at a car crash.
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Where the US leads, the rest of the Western world often follows - we may be looking at our own future as the anti-intellectualists and know nothings take control led by the tech bros and right wing media who simply want things to burn.
 
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