The trial of Philip Polkinghorne

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This case involves a binary scenario.
A murder staged as a suicide, or a suicide.
It is covered by the New Zealand Herald, and not paywalled, with plenty of detail.

Armchair detectives should solve this quickly!

An eye surgeon who moonlights as a fanatical sex addict, with Australlian connections, the deceased allegedly was a high class call girl in Australia, and came to have a good position in health management in Auckland.

Here is the latest link, but they can all be found.
As usual Steve Braunias is on the press bench at the trial.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime...-suicide-evidence/DHWECQ3PXJC6THKRDPQQBOVHL4/
 
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This case is reminiscent of the Bain case in New Zealand and the Bamber case in England.
The common element is that all accused allegedly staged a suicide.
Bain and Bamber are proven innocent by analyzing the crime scenes.
Polkinghorne will be discovered to be innocent or guilty by analyzing the scene.
The jury verdict will be outside of the science that can establish whether it is murder or suicide
 
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Steve Braunias from behind the paywall.

"All along the police theory is based on the outrageous proposition that Dr Polkinghorne staged Pauline’s suicide, that he scurried around their large, boring house with the ugly two-seater couches and awful paintings to fetch a chair and a rope and a belt. "-

So this reporter appears to have decided.

The paywalled link.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/phili...rt-steve-braunias/KMVPLJ2MTVFRNBJDJM2WPFTDCA/
 
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Not paywalled, as all but Steve Braunias appear to be

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime...s-death-colleague/4QXKUQYF75DT3MRZ2HZXSLGC2Q/

"She became quite agitated and she described to us that Philip had done this to her,” Riordan testified, getting emotional as she wrapped her own hands around her throat to demonstrate what her friend showed her. “He’d done it to her and indicated that he could do that at any time. She took that as a threat - a real threat that he could do that to her at any time.”
 
This case is reminiscent of the Bain case in New Zealand and the Bamber case in England.
The common element is that all accused allegedly staged a suicide.
Bain and Bamber are proven innocent by analyzing the crime scenes.
Polkinghorne will be discovered to be innocent or guilty by analyzing the scene.
The jury verdict will be outside of the science that can establish whether it is murder or suicide
:rolleyes:
Back in the Real World Bamber remains in jail having been convicted of multiple murders, despite the frantic whinings of his fan-boys.
 
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An eye surgeon who moonlights as a fanatical sex addict, with Australlian connections, the deceased allegedly was a high class call girl in Australia, and came to have a good position in health management in Auckland.
......

Where did you get this from?
 
Where did you get this from?
I got it from a usually reliable source but it may be completely incorrect.
If so I retract it.
I will check tomorrow.
It would have been when she was twenty something, so not relevant to the legal case.
 
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I got it from a usually reliable source but it may be completely incorrect.
If so I retract it.
I will check tomorrow.
It would have been when she was twenty something, so not relevant to the legal case.
:rolleyes:
So you either made it up, when drunk?, or parroted it from TwiX again.
 
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I actually found a reddit thread with someone purporting to be Madison Ashton commenting on some aspects of this fiasco.
 
The jury is determining the fate of Philip Polkinghorne.
They had several hours today, and recommence Monday.
Most observers seem to consider the truth unknowable.
The immaculate fingernails maybe the determining factor.
 
The staged suicide has an interesting history.
David Bain and Jeremy Bamber have both been falsely accused of staging suicides.
If anyone knows where there seems to be a case where the suicide was staged, and the perpetrator got clean away, it would be interesting to consider in relation to this and other cases.
 
Another curiosity is size. Polkinghorne was about the same apparent size as Pauline Hanna.
A dead body is hard to manage into any required position.
The best theory to account for no disturbance to the fingernails or attacker DNA is that he strangled her not in a rage, but while she slumbered
Thus he then must stage the suicide from a position in bed to a chair on the staircase.
Adrenaline may be the key to this?
 
The thread failed to launch, disappointing because it is binary.
A heinous villain or a being beyond hope?
Neither presentation is plausible but one of above is true.
 
The thread failed to launch, disappointing because it is binary.
A heinous villain or a being beyond hope?
Neither presentation is plausible but one of above is true.

Speaking of being beyond hope. Sampson, you are a great example. Proving ignorance just fits you.
 
tests for urine; rolled up belt; TOD

"But [forensic scientist Fiona] Matheson said there is no test in New Zealand for detecting urine. There are some international tests on the market, but they are not used in New Zealand because they have been found to create false positives, she explained." Taking this assertion as a given for a moment, it would be a good reason to not regard the procedure as a confirmatory test, but it might be an acceptable presumptive test. However, a quick look at RSIDUrine indicates that there is no cross reactivity with other body fluids or with urine from cats or gorillas (dog urine does react). This manufacturer also offers tests for blood, semen, and saliva. See also this article that discusses the forensic testing of urine in the context of other fluids. Therefore, the prosecution's witness gave testimony that is open to question. She should have specified exactly what were the substances that do give false positives.

"The belt was later found rolled up in the couple’s kitchen, with Polkinghorne explaining that he removed it after discovering his wife." Although it is possible that an innocent person would do this, it is also possible that a guilty person would do this as a way of explaining why their fingerprints or DNA were present (assuming that they were). Was there a forensically determined time of death, by taking the temperature of the body or some other means? This information might be enough to make a convincing case.
EDT
Cell phone usage seems to be a contentious issue in this case. The question of whether her injuries were consistent with strangulation was also debated during the course of the trial.
 
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"But [forensic scientist Fiona] Matheson said there is no test in New Zealand for detecting urine. There are some international tests on the market, but they are not used in New Zealand because they have been found to create false positives, she explained." Taking this assertion as a given for a moment, it would be a good reason to not regard the procedure as a confirmatory test, but it might be an acceptable presumptive test. However, a quick look at RSIDUrine indicates that there is no cross reactivity with other body fluids or with urine from cats or gorillas (dog urine does react). This manufacturer also offers tests for blood, semen, and saliva. See also this article that discusses the forensic testing of urine in the context of other fluids. Therefore, the prosecution's witness gave testimony that is open to question. She should have specified exactly what were the substances that do give false positives.

"The belt was later found rolled up in the couple’s kitchen, with Polkinghorne explaining that he removed it after discovering his wife." Although it is possible that an innocent person would do this, it is also possible that a guilty person would do this as a way of explaining why their fingerprints or DNA were present (assuming that they were). Was there a forensically determined time of death, by taking the temperature of the body or some other means? This information might be enough to make a convincing case.
EDT
Cell phone usage seems to be a contentious issue in this case. The question of whether her injuries were consistent with strangulation was also debated during the course of the trial.
Pleased to see you checking into this case Chris.
I am sure that regardless of the jury verdict, there is a scientific solution.
People I speak to are unsure, so it is worth continuing the discussion.
 
From behind the NZ Herald paywall from Steve Braunias

"It opened on Monday, July 29. I knew next to nothing about the case back then. Now, on September 18, I have filled 16 Warwick 3B1 notebooks with crucial and meaningless details, but have come no closer to knowing exactly what happened to Pauline Hanna, who died on April 5, 2021, because you never know."


And

"Is the Polkinghorne murder trial over yet? It was a ratings hit. The trial offered legacy news media its best gift since former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern made us her “team of $50 million”. Meanwhile I had a good sideline going on in court, where I signed about a dozen copies of my latest book The Survivors: True Stories of Death and Desperation for members of the public. I state in the introduction it’s my third and final book of true crime. Perhaps this was a bit premature. You never know."

Steve Braunias will always enjoy his craft in the context of true crime and exploring trials and the quiet and explosive drama in the courtroom.
 
strangulation vs hanging

I think that the best way to approach this case is to ask what evidence might differentiate strangulation from hanging. I don't have any special knowledge in this area. TOD is only helpful if the prosecution's timeline is different from the defense's timeline. The lack of fingernail DNA has some probative value, but only so much.
 
It occurs to me that strangulation would result in intensive DNA contribution to the neck area by the perpetrator. This would close the case, but why is there no test or discussion?
 
I'd have a serious bet on him being both guilty and found not guilty.

Disgusting human being. At least even after a not guilty verdict his life is ruined.
 
DNA persistence on the neck

It occurs to me that strangulation would result in intensive DNA contribution to the neck area by the perpetrator. This would close the case, but why is there no test or discussion?
In 2008 there was at least one paper from the research group of G. N. Rutty that examined simulated strangulation and DNA transfer. They were performed using autosomal (numbered chromosomes) DNA profiling. I remember thinking that someone should follow their work up by doing the same study with Y-chromosomal testing, so that the contribution from a female victim would not overwhelm that of a male perpetrator. There has been some work which was coauthored by the estimable Peter Gill. They wrote, "The detection and persistence of partner's DNA and DNA from unknown individuals was studied, along with the influence of the living arrangement and daily activities of a subject."
 
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I'd have a serious bet on him being both guilty and found not guilty.

Disgusting human being. At least even after a not guilty verdict his life is ruined.
I said to one of my brothers Mark Lundy was innocent. He said I don't care, he is a terrible human being.
I guess that was predicated on a more modest predilection for the occasional call girl on a business trip, when it was claimed his wife had lost interest in sex.
We certainly don't need another wrongful conviction to add to Walter Bolton, Arthur Thomas, Brian MacDonald, David Tamihere, Teina Pora, David Bain, Rex Haig, Allan Hall, Mark Lundy, Gail Maney, and the attempt on Ewan MacDonald.
 
In 2008 there was at least one paper from the research group of G. N. Rutty that examined simulated strangulation and DNA transfer. They were performed using autosomal (numbered chromosomes) DNA profiling. I remember thinking that someone should follow their work up by doing the same study with Y-chromosomal testing, so that the contribution from a female victim would not overwhelm that of a male perpetrator. There has been some work which was coauthored by the estimable Peter Gill. They wrote, "The detection and persistence of partner's DNA and DNA from unknown individuals was studied, along with the influence of the living arrangement and daily activities of a subject."
Of course if the belt was used it would resolve the issue.
I think the only configuration allowing for the undamaged hands and the risk of forensic dna would be the belt on a sleeping woman.
The quantum of premeditation keeps rising with this.
And then where are the dna checks on the belt and rope, or was it all surgical gloves?
I haven't followed the case as closely as usual.
Interesting days ahead.
 
Most of jury do not believe Pauline Hanna died by suicide, judge told in Polkinghorne trial
The jury in the trial of retired eye surgeon Philip Polkinghorne has asked the court for guidance saying some don't believe there's enough proof he caused his wife's death, while most say there isn't enough proof of her suicide...

Justice Graham Lang addressed the jury, going over a question they had about the evidence in Hanna's death:

"Most of the people on the jury do not think there is enough evidence to support Pauline committing suicide," Lang read out to the court.

"However, some people on the jury do not think that the Crown has supplied enough evidence that we can answer yes to the question: 'Has the Crown made you sure the Dr Polkinghorne caused the death of his wife, Pauline Hanna, by intentionally strangling her? Please can we have some direction?'"

"At the end of the day, it's not sufficient for you to think that Dr Polkinghorne is probably guilty, or even very likely guilty," he said. "You've got to be sure, beyond reasonable doubt, that the Crown has proved that he is guilty."

Lang said the defence did not bear the onus of proving Pauline Hanna killed herself, and sent jurors back into deliberation.
Sounds like the judge doesn't believe the Crown has proved its case.

Quite a contrast from the jury I was on where the judge prepped us by saying "However, Mr. .... (the defense lawyer) would have you believe...". In that trial the jury also asked for clarification on an irrelevant detail, and the judge was visibly annoyed by it. Luckily I managed to convince the vacillating jurors to focus on relevant facts, and we returned the right verdict.

In this case however, if the evidence presented by the prosecution is as reported in the news media, I would have a hard time deciding. I think he's guilty, but as the judge said - that's not good enough.
 
Well he is found not guilty, as said earlier, there must have been more forensic tests that could have been done.
I think the community is safe with this 71 year old at large.
The catalogue of appalling results I listed above are enough for this self absorbed little country.
 
Well he is found not guilty, as said earlier, there must have been more forensic tests that could have been done.I think the community is safe with this 71 year old at large.
The catalogue of appalling results I listed above are enough for this self absorbed little country.
Such as? :rolleyes:
 
Well I put to Chris the idea that intensive fresh Polkinghorne dna would be on the neck area with a bare hands strangulation (in a crime of passion).
If you check his posts he did add to this idea.
 
Well I put to Chris the idea that intensive fresh Polkinghorne dna would be on the neck area with a bare hands strangulation (in a crime of passion).
If you check his posts he did add to this idea.
:rolleyes: Sigh. You claimed
...there must have been more forensic tests that could have been done.
so what are these putative tests?
 
DNA transfer in strangulation; differentiation vs hanging

Hi Catsmate,

Let me flesh out comment #25, but with the caveat that everything below regarding DNA applies to manual strangulation, not strangulation via a rope or something similar. In 2002 GN Rutty and Collaborators wrote, "A total of 29 separate experiments were performed using a single male offender-female victim combination to observe whether DNA was transferred both from the offender's fingers to the victim's neck and vice versa and to consider the period of time after the event during which the material could potentially be recovered and amplified. DNA was amplified from either the victim's neck or the offender's fingers for at least 10 days after the contact although it is discussed whether this is potentially due to primary contact or a secondary/tertiary transfer event." I was surprised at the 10-day period.

GN Rutty and collaborators followed up in 2008: "The results of phase 3 showed that primary, secondary, and zero transfer of victim and/or offender DNA could be observed after physical contact and that alleles from an unknown source could still be detected in this more controlled experiment. The data presented in this paper demonstrate that DNA profiles generated after swabbing the skin surface of healthy adults can include components of an unknown source, present due to adventitious transfer. These components, if present in large quantities, have the potential to interfere with DNA profile interpretation of swabs taken for the investigation of physical assault by DNA profiling." There is also work from another group that studied swabbing technique in simulations. Link.

I had thought that in the cases of male perpetrators strangling female victims, the biggest problem was the presence of the victim's DNA; therefore, I thought that Y-chromosomal DNA profiling would be the next logical step to try in experiments following on Rutty's work. The passages I quoted above point to different problem, namely third party DNA and innocent DNA transfer.

The other work that I had mentioned was work in which Peter Gill, one of the most accomplished investigators in DNA forensics, had participated. They wrote, "Partner's DNA was observed to accumulate during the day and to persist when an individual was absent from the shared home environment. DNA from unknown contributors was found on the neck of individuals that used public transport, attended public spaces and had social interactions. The data acquired from this study will help to increase knowledge on the composition of DNA present on an individual's neck in a daily situation." If Dr. Polkinghorne's DNA were found in a neck swab, he might have a plausible claim of innocent transfer.

In comment #22 I suggested than one might ask which methods can differentiate strangulation from hanging. What little reading I have done suggested to me that a person might void their urine either during strangulation or handing; therefore, I am not confident that identifying the stain in question as urine (comment #19) would have been probative.

"What many people consider to be hanging is not actually hanging, since death occurs by fracture/dislocation rather than asphyxia. [6, 7]" link. I don't know much about the subject, but the interested reader could look into hyoid fracture. Link. I have not found an indication that during the trial, the fracture or lack of fracture of the hyoid bone was discussed, but I did catch a glimpse that the issue of damage to some cartilage was brought up. I am not taking any position on guilt or innocence.
 
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Check this from Stuff:

From Stuff:



"Ashton’s statement then sets out how she heard about Pauline Hanna’s death, on the day it happened: Easter Monday 2021.

She did not get a reply to her usual good morning message, but then Polkinghorne called.

“He was quite distressed, crying, and took him a little while to actually tell me what had happened to Pauline. He said, ‘Pauline has hung herself at home and I found the body’.”

Since Ashton thought they were no longer living together, her statement records that Polkinghorne supposedly explained Hanna had “let herself into the house somehow, without triggering the alarm”.

“He said she had come back to the house and committed suicide in order to punish him.” "



Clearly he had been lying that they were divorced and she had gone.

Then when she hanged herself he was busted, so he made up that she came home and hanged herself! She was bound to find out he had been lying.

Therefore the worst thing HE could do was kill her in his house!!



https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350...ker-madison-ashton-breaks-her-silence-reveals
 

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