How ?
It's not like it has the men or materiel to commit and while the Russian economy is dealing far better than expected with the war in Ukraine and western sanctions, he doesn't have the money to burn either.
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[Continuation] The Russian Invasion of Ukraine part 9
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It's not like it has the men or materiel to commit and while the Russian economy is dealing far better than expected with the war in Ukraine and western sanctions, he doesn't have the money to burn either.
The Great Zaganza
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mercs plus air support.
Ukraine is going well for Russia, and Putin can expect things to get even easier once Trump parks his behind in the Oval Office.
Russia just has to delay until it can shift more resources from Ukraine to Syria.
Who knows? Maybe the North Koreans would be perfect for this fight !
Ukraine is going well for Russia, and Putin can expect things to get even easier once Trump parks his behind in the Oval Office.
Russia just has to delay until it can shift more resources from Ukraine to Syria.
Who knows? Maybe the North Koreans would be perfect for this fight !
TragicMonkey
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Perhaps Russia will finally use those nukes they keep threatening to use.
Has he blocked himself from using the internet?
TragicMonkey
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Putin only uses the internet to look at cat videos and anime reviews. He's still hoping for a Ranma 1/2 reboot.
Andy_Ross
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I had him as a Sailor Moon fan.
They'll need to move fast. The regime has lost a number of air bases. The Latakia/Jablah airbase was never all that far from the line of control to begin with. If that base comes under fire, Russia may lose any ability to field aircraft in Syria, other than long range bombers flying from Russia itself. They would need to overfly Iran and Iraq as well.
Russia did use cruise missiles from the ships (formerly) ported in Tartus. But they can't be resupplied unless they return to the port.
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Dr.Sid
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Hardly. That would make him a cool person
Is Ukraine really going well for Russia?
I know I've been consistently downbeat about Russia continuing to advance but even I haven't gone as far as saying it's going well - just that Russian losses are at an apparently acceptable level for the marginal gains.
That said, once Trump is installed then US support for Ukraine will evaporate - and indeed they may even start to support Russia. Europe will then really have to step up to the mark.
plague311
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The war is on Europe's doorstep, they should be the ones doing the bulk of the lifting, and they are in my opinion.
That said, to imply that the US will support Russia is ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ bull ◊◊◊◊. I don't care how much you hate Trump the rest of congress isn't going to start sending aid to Putin. That's just asinine.
That said, to imply that the US will support Russia is ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ bull ◊◊◊◊. I don't care how much you hate Trump the rest of congress isn't going to start sending aid to Putin. That's just asinine.
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It's going better for Russia than it is for Ukraine - it can lose three times the troops because it has ten times the reserves.
plague311
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. The Russian economy is on it's way up, they're glorified on the global stage, and they're making head and shoulders advancements in every sector of their country.
Wars are totally judged on just the amount of bodies that can be lost.
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The steadily worsening economy seems to be their biggest hurdle at the moment. They are taking territory, but even if it's relatively fast compared to earlier gains they're still advancing at a molasses pace.
I doubt whether the Trump administration would send aid but they might very well support Russia by sharing intelligence.
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Do you think the intel agencies would go for that?
What intelligence do you have in mind? tactical stuff from the actual battlefield? If that happened and NATO or the other of the 'Five Eyes' found out then the US would be instantly frozen out of the loop. It would cause a huge rift between the USA and all it's allies. Trump might as well announce he was leaving NATO and joining Russia.
What intelligence do you have in mind? tactical stuff from the actual battlefield? If that happened and NATO or the other of the 'Five Eyes' found out then the US would be instantly frozen out of the loop. It would cause a huge rift between the USA and all it's allies. Trump might as well announce he was leaving NATO and joining Russia.
a_unique_person
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He's been running down the massive reserves he counted on to enable the war to continue for an extended period of time. They are running out now. Inflation is way up. Interest rates are rising. He's gambling massively with unsustainable tactics and losses.
gypsyjackson
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Romania is the second biggest net recipient of EU money behind only Poland. I don’t think he has as stronk [sic] a negotiating position as he thinks he has.
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Russia can win the war, but it has already lost the peace - which is why it doesn't want to stop, because then comes the hangover of an economy trapped in a war setting, its working population fled, dead or wounded.
But that won't be much relief for an occupied Ukraine where the soldiers will take much more than just washing machines and dishwashers to send home - they will plunder everything they can.
Gulliver Foyle
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No, but his cronies will make sure what he sees on the internet is pre-vetted. Their lives depend on it.
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I don't put it past him.
Gulliver Foyle
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The rest of congrees is going to support Ruzzia unless T****y takes too many picks from it. Remember, Putain has as many hooks in the nazi party as he does in their leader.
SpitfireIX
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Romanian top court annuls presidential election result
- Georgescu's first-round surprise win was questioned amid Russian meddling accusations
- Second round had been due to be held on Sunday
- Court ruling may erode institutions, trigger protests, say analysts
- President Iohannis to stay on until successor elected
- Iohannis to nominate new PM after Dec. 1 parliamentary vote
The second round had been scheduled for Sunday and voting has already begun in polling stations abroad. It would have pitted Calin Georgescu, a far-right, pro-Russian candidate, against pro-European Union centrist leader Elena Lasconi. . . .
Analysts said the court ruling may erode institutions, trigger street protests and ultimately still endanger the nation's pro-Western course. It was not yet clear if Georgescu would be allowed to take part in the re-run election.
"(The ruling) shows the weaknesses of the Romanian state, the vulnerabilities of institutions that were not able to identify early on in the process the Russian interference," said Laura Stefan, a legal expert at think tank Expert Forum.
Romania's top security council declassified documents on Wednesday that said the country was a target of "aggressive hybrid Russian attacks" during the election period.
Russia has denied any interference in Romania's election campaigns.
The top court, which had validated the first presidential round on Monday, said in its Friday reversal that the declassified documents showed the entire electoral process had been spoiled through vote manipulation, campaign irregularities and non-transparent funding.
I'm conflicted about this. Although the Russians clearly interfered, I'm not sure that annulling the results was the best response.
The intelligence agencies may not get a look in. If it goes across Trump's desk, it can end up in the hands of the Russians.
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That would be my concern - that Trump is stupid enough to blurt out important intel whilst thinking he's playing a smart game of bluff or intimidation with Putin.
Aridas
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Err... as a small reminder, early in Trump's first term, Trump just casually passed top secret information to Russia as if it were small talk, before getting to everything else in that term of Trump being a national security nightmare. Even that "whilst thinking he's playing a smart game of bluff or intimidation with Putin" is fairly certainly offering him far, far too much benefit of the doubt compared to the observed reality.
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you think the military intelligence agencies won't notice the Russians are sharing their intel?
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SpitfireIX
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Regardless, the US intelligence agencies will be obliged to continue to provide the President with intelligence.
As Aridas pointed out, it's not like Trump hasn't already done this in his first term.
Sounds about right, and in retaliation the US will stop providing intelligence to the other parties.
Trump will think this is fine, American isolationism and in any case US intelligence is a million times better than foreign intelligence so there's no loss.
As regards Ukraine, he's not really interested in intelligence, he just wants to claim he stopped the war - surrender to Russia will achieve that and so that's what he's aiming at.
Aridas
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Entirely plausible.
This, though... this feels off. It feels like it's imposing values that Trump hasn't really shown onto Trump. Trump will likely not care about the intelligence and the various ties that go along with it, sure. Trump may well care about face, though, and be happy to use such as pretext to drive a more lasting wedge in international relations. Further, well, when it comes to Ukraine, specifically, the US does have intelligence collection ongoing as a general rule. Trump casually dropping some highlights to Putin or the whole world (again, the man's a national security nightmare who exposed top secret information and capabilities to the world casually, before getting to the shocking attrition among US intelligence assets under his administration) could easily be devastating to Ukraine's defenses.
I'm not sure about Trump only wanting to claim that he stopped the war, either. There's more to take advantage of, after all. Like we've seen from others in this thread, Russia's propaganda offers those so motivated multiple pretenses to pick from.
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Russian army tries to cut costs by forcing mobilised soldiers to sign contracts meaning they only get paid higher rate if in combat.
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Attached: 1 image 1/ The Russian army is reported to have come up with a new way of saving costs: it is forcing mobilised soldiers to sign contracts, which means they do not have to be paid as much if they are not on the front line. ⬇️
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They are, but how much does it really matter ?
Unless there is significant unrest within Russia, Putin is secure in his position and while the overseas failures may be irksome, it's unlikely that the majority of the Russian populace will hear of it, much less care.
OTOH he only has to hold out for a few more weeks before Trump is sworn in and the equation changes significantly. If the US only withdraws its support for Ukraine (materiel, tactical, training and intelligence) then that weakens the Ukraine significantly. If Trump actually starts to put a finger on the scale in support of Russia (for example by feeding them intelligence of Ukrainian positions and tactics) and pressuring Ukraine to find an agreement with Russia then that would be a complete turnaround.
IMO it's embarrassing, without being significantly damaging for Putin.
a_unique_person
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Putin's shills are always touting his worldwide genius in the fight against the evil west. Now he looks like a fool.
Wudang
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Russia's 810th Marine Brigade suffering massive casualties while failing to retake Kursk with reports of a thousand missing in October. Incompetent commanders blamed.
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14/ Russia seems to have given up on trying to expel the Ukrainians from the Kursk region by the end of 2024. "There is no talk of us driving the enemy out of Kursk Oblast by the New Year. There is no talk of that, all movement is at a high cost," says war correspondent Vladimir Romanov. /end...
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It seems a lot of Russian military bloggers are very upset about the fall of Assad's regime.
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Attached: 1 image 1/ Many Russian commentators feel the loss of Syria deeply because it was a "kind of symbol of the glory of Russian weapons," according to a lament published by a prominent Russian war blogger. "It is not yet clear what will happen to this symbol," he adds gloomily. ⬇️
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