Merged The razor of Hitchens and the Spirits!

Calderaro said:
Certain phenomena, such as mystical experiences or paranormal events, may not be easily measurable or replicable in a laboratory. Does this mean they do not exist, or that we need to develop new forms of investigation to better understand these reports?
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As framed in this poorly written question: Yes, it means they do not exist.

We know certain fault lines produce plasma balls sometimes. They are hard to capture because they only last a few seconds, and occur randomly, often in rugged terrain. But the science behind them is solid. In the Smokey Mountains they cluster around railroad tracks in specific areas, and have been filmed. The Marfa Light are common enough to be caught on camera as well, and with the spread of smartphone cameras Ball Lightning gets filmed more often. We understand electricity and static discharge, and all the fun things that make them happen. So even if we don't get an event on camera, if someone said they saw a ball of light floating down the tracks there's a good change they did see it.

If someone says they saw a ball of light float into their bedroom followed by a voice telling them something crazy, and then they claim it was a spirit then we don't believe them. Sleep Apnea and Sleep Paralysis are the true explanations behind this kind of report, and the person who experienced this needs to see a doctor. Just because someone feels special because of their sleep paralysis experience because they don't understand medical science doesn't require medical science to change the way they conduct research into something they've already extensively researched with all the repeatable controlled lab conditions you think are worthless.

And this thread need to be merged with the other BS thread you ignore.
 
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False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.

This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
 
Goblins and pixies are real. CGI is real and produces explainable, repeatable and observable physical manifestations, so they are real. Not really real, just real. What is meant by 'meaning' is also interesting.
 
Calderaro said:
False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.

This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
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You are being very rude.

Just provide some evidence for your claims, answer the questions asked of you, and lay off the insults.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
At what point does refusal to engage and repeated spamming of the same rubbish become a violation of the MA? The board needs more members, and the occasional chew toy can be fun, but this is ridiculous. And getting boring.
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And he's started two more threads with essentially the same spam, as if spreading it out makes it a more substantial meat.
 
Calderaro said:
False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.

This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
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On current evidence it isn't false. Only a fool tries to use terms they don't understand to win an arguement.
 
Calderaro said:
False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.

This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
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First: You're projecting.

Second: No one has ever accused me of being smart.

Others and I have been willing to defend our stances with thoughtful replies with plenty of detail. You counter with silence, and then fringe reset. I am still on the fence about the paranormal based on my personal experiences, but keeping an open mind goes both ways. The difference between you and I is I will accept a logical answer, where as you will clearly ignore it. I was looking for facts, you are looking for reinforcement of your beliefs. That you refuse to engage in an intellectual debate suggests your beliefs are weak, suggesting other personal issues, which is why you troll this message board.

You have never honestly taken time to map out how your "Spirit World" would actually work. You throw pop-quantum physics phrases around with no understanding of what they mean - just like I once did - but you are unwilling to honestly look at your claims objectively. You've tossed around the idea of mysterious energy without understanding what energy is, and that energy has to come from somewhere and go somewhere. This energy can be detected and tracked. And even if it's some sort of unknown energy it likely will effect a type of energy we can monitor. There have been discoveries by scientists watching a gauge or a meter somewhere and noticing the needle doing something unusual, and then seeking the answer to the strange reading. That's science.

You claim of a spirit healing some kind of abdominal ailment is an example of a traceable energy, if it truly existed, Healing a specific organ without effecting surround organs, and tissues would be a very narrow band of energy, and very findable.

You've thrown around the idea of other dimensions and interdimensional beings. That crap works at psychic fairs, but not here because unlike the standard Woo-fests, there are people here who understand what dimensions are, and the theories of how they might work. And you don't know how dimensions work. Neither do I, to stay honest. Other dimensions for paranormal things is a relatively new idea for believers, something that arose in the late 1890s. The Bible and ancient texts never spoke about dimensions. They have been hijacked by purveyors of Woo to make their claims sound "Sciency".

I'll give you a big clue culled from my 30 years of ghost hunting: Spirit Activity never occurs in empty buildings or empty places. There is always a human around. Always.

This is not about you looking to prove spirits exist, this is you trying to justify a belief that makes you feel special.
 
Calderaro said:
False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.
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We don't currently have a problem with "pseudoskeptics". We have an annoying seagull problem.
Calderaro said:
This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
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No, you know what creates a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ barrier to dialogue? I'll give you three guesses, the answers to which start with "this douchebag marches in here.."
 
Calderaro said:
False Sense of Intellectual Superiority
Pseudoskeptics often consider themselves to be more intelligent or informed than those who accept ideas they reject.

This attitude can create a barrier to dialogue and collaboration, and reinforce an arrogant and inflexible attitude.
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Calderaro said:
you are a victim of pseudoskepticism!
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Johnny can't read
Blah, blah, blah
I can't see
Blah, blah, blah
 
Calderaro said:
now the subject is pseudoskepticism
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No, it's not. The subject of this thread is Hitchen's Razor and the Spirits (which sounds a little like the name of a punk band). Does the razor apply? Yes. Question answered, thread closed. The debate is over! I no speaka de eenglish! Bored out of my ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ mind with this bull ◊◊◊◊.
 
Calderaro said:
let's debate about pseudoskepticism, forget about the existence or not of spirits
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No. You have been powerhouse dishonest in your postings, and obviously are dragging this out into infinity with one mindless copypasting after another.

Start another thread if you want to talk about something else.
 
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