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The post-Trump fascist creep catch-all thread

shemp said:
The difference is that the students don't have to worry about losing their jobs.
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Not only losing their jobs, but having their means of working removed by losing their credentials. If they lose their FL credentials, they can't just move to another state and start working. Even states with full reciprocity require a valid and current teaching license.
 
Stacyhs said:
This is a classic example of your tendency for exaggeration. No one has said that a 'mass action by teachers is not justified yet'.
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I'm old, but not yet "classic". :rolleyes:

What some of us have said is that extreme actions like the threat of mass resignations are not the first actions to take.
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Is what I suggested. And those sorts of threats could be in the form of publicly reported threats and activities which would be damaging to DeSantis carefully orchestrated and directed through selected media. And that's a subject on which many books and theses have been written. So maybe not re-thrash it here?
 
Stacyhs said:
Not only losing their jobs, but having their means of working removed by losing their credentials. If they lose their FL credentials, they can't just move to another state and start working. Even states with full reciprocity require a valid and current teaching license.
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Oh, so they can't be re-credentialed in another state? Or move outside the USA and take their knowledge and decades of experience with them if their credentials were ended yesterday??
 
Here's something of some small relevance -

Tweet by Christian Ziegler, who chairs the Florida GOP and is married to Bridget Ziegler (co-founder of Moms for Liberty): “The work is not done until there are no more Democrats in Florida.”
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DeSantis friend states that the job's not done until they've driven Democrats out of Florida completely? Uh huh.
 
Aridas said:
Here's something of some small relevance -



DeSantis friend states that the job's not done until they've driven Democrats out of Florida completely? Uh huh.
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Wow, Ziegler sounds like a right piece of work.

Head of the GOP in Florida? That explains a lot about Florida lately.
 
Tweet by Christian Ziegler, who chairs the Florida GOP and is married to Bridget Ziegler (co-founder of Moms for Liberty): “The work is not done until there are no more Democrats in Florida.”
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When they tell you who they are, believe them.
 
And... chalk one more casualty up to the Cancel Culture that is the GOP's war on truth, decency, and kids.

The impact of Alabama governor’s ouster of early childhood education chief

But Ivey forced Cooper’s resignation because of an educator’s resource book that had been in use for years but had just been brought to her attention, according to a statement reported by Alabama Political Reporter. The book, Ivey said, “invokes ideas for teachers that there are ‘larger systemic forces that perpetuate systems of White privilege’ or that ‘the United States is built on systemic and structural racism.’”

After being criticized for forcing Cooper to resign, Ivey defended her decision to reporters, saying, “The teacher resource book that I looked at had all those references to different kind of lifestyles and equity and this and that and the other,” Ivey told reporters Thursday. “That’s not teaching English. That’s not teaching writing. That’s not teaching reading. We need to focus on the basics, y’all, and get this right.”

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The book in question, “Developmentally Appropriate Practice in Early Childhood Programs Serving Children from Birth Through Age 8,” is a foundation of early education in the United States, and Alabama educators have used it for years. In its 800-plus pages, educators learn how children’s brains and personalities develop across early childhood, how to translate that knowledge into classroom practices that support learning for all young children, how to assess children’s learning, how to build positive relationships with their families, and much more.

Now in its fourth edition, the book — produced by the well-regarded National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC) — is definitive, authoritative, research-based, and the product of decades of work by educators and scholars alike. It’s an indispensable resource for anyone who works in early education, in any state in the nation.

Yet, according to a statement from the governor, the book promotes “woke concepts that have zero to do with a proper education and that are divisive at the core.”

What are those concepts? In a few passages, the book reminds readers that Black and other minority children have historically experienced bias and stereotyping that hinders their education, and it urges educators to be aware of those biases and to compensate for them. It also notes that “children from all families,” including those who have gay, lesbian or transgender parents, “need to hear and see messages that promote [their] equality, dignity and worth.”

In other words, it tells educators that children learn best in an environment that feels welcoming and safe to them — the kind of environment that all parents want for their children.
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This action is absurd. It's evil. It's today's GOP.
 
It's like every day now is a contest to see which state is the stupidest and most backward. The GQP-run states do everything they can to take the lead.
 
Aridas said:
And... chalk one more casualty up to the Cancel Culture that is the GOP's war on truth, decency, and kids.

The impact of Alabama governor’s ouster of early childhood education chief



This action is absurd. It's evil. It's today's GOP.
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This is par for the course now. Politicians deciding on what is 'best' for women and children regarding their medical issues instead of doctors, deciding what's 'appropriate' educational material for children instead of professional educators, and ignoring scientists pretty much in general. I'm beginning to think a requirement for being a GOP politician is being either an idiot or an extreme narcissist...or both.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Florida's primary elections are closed. What that means is that, if you live in Florida and want to vote in a party's primary, you must not only be registered to vote but must also declare your affiliation with that party. Your declared party affiliation becomes a public record.
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That's just for primaries, i.e. party membership. These voters are a tiny subset of "Democrats". Also, it applies to the GOP, and all political parties. So they are equally "exposed".
 
Norman Alexander said:
Question I asked before: How will they tell who is a Democrat and who is not? Are they looking for tattoos? Or is it going to be based on racial profiling?
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Oh yeah, here comes the woke librul gotta-be fairy, right on cue! Who said anything about being accurate? Shoot everyone who isn't conspicuously, provably a red hat Republican, and you've done the job. There's plenty of room under the bus for the riffraff and the rinos.

Oh yes, in these weird times I'd better add the :rolleyes:
 
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bruto said:
Oh yeah, here comes the woke librul gotta-be fairy, right on cue! Who said anything about being accurate? Shoot everyone who isn't conspicuously, provably a red hat Republican, and you've done the job. There's plenty of room under the bus for the riffraff and the rinos.

Oh yes, in these weird times I'd better add the :rolleyes:
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You were ninja'd. ;)

And yes, that seems to be pretty much the FL GOP method. Nothing to do with fairness at all, that's the point. These swivel-eyed goobers are all for "getting rid of" (what does that mean??) "every last Democrat" from Florida. Which really means "everybody but us".

Frankly, they should be the first out.
 
Trump loses yet another court case:
Judge Orders Trump to Pay Legal Fees Racked Up by New York Times and Mary Trump After Dismissing His Lawsuit

Donald Trump has been ordered to pay all attorneys fees, legal expenses, and “associated costs” after a New York judge threw out his court case against The New York Times and his niece, Mary Trump.

The famously litigious Trump filed suit against the paper, three reporters, and his niece in 2021. He alleged they planned an “insidious plot” to collect his financial records for an extensive story on how he avoided paying taxes, according to The Daily Beast. Mary Trump sued that same year to have the case dismissed.

The story took 18 months to research and won the prestigious 2019 Pulitzer Prize in Explanatory Writing. The prize board said the work debunked Trump’s “claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges.”

Court documents claimed that Mary Trump worked with the paper to “smuggle records out of her attorney’s office and turn them over.” She revealed in her book, Too Much and Never Enough, that she was the Times‘ source for the story.

Trump accused the three reporters — David Barstow, Susanne Craig, and Russ Buettner —of being “motivated, at least in part, by their actual malice.”
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According to The Daily Beast, New York Supreme Court Justice Robert R. Reed wrote that Trump’s claims “fail as a matter of constitutional law,” and said the paper’s ability to research is “the very core of protected First Amendment activity.”
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The famously litigious Trump filed suit against the paper, three reporters, and his niece in 2021. He alleged they planned an “insidious plot” to collect his financial records for an extensive story on how he avoided paying taxes, according to The Daily Beast.
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Not just a plot, an insidious plot!
 
She was seen in numerous locations that day, including carrying a big black bag away from where rioters were trashing media equipment.
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He dumped her, he said, after she posted about reading Hitler's 1925 manifesto.
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"You're, like, reading 'Mein Kampf', you think immigrants don't deserve X, Y, Z," he recalled thinking of (Jennifer Inzuza) Vargas. NBC also confirmed that Vargas made unspecified references to Hitler og social media.
Capitol riot suspect in pink beret IDed by ex who says he dumped her for reading Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' (New York Post, May 8, 2023)
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Daily Mail claims she "was spotted stealing camera equipment".
 
A conservative woman who lives in VERY RED Wyoming wrote this opinion piece in the NY Times about the rise of White Nationalism in her state. It's long but excellent. This is the same danger that we see rising in many GOP dominated states, such as Texas, who want to blur, or even erase, the line between church and state. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gosar spoke at a conference last Feb. organized by white nationalist Nick Fuentes. Tucker Carlson has promoted the "Great Replacement" theory. This ideology is anti-democratic and anti-American but it's spreading thanks to far-right extremism.


What Christian Nationalism Has Done to My State and My Faith Is a Sin
Christian nationalists have hijacked both my Republican Party and my faith community by blurring the lines between church and government and in the process rebranding our state’s identity.
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But new sheriffs in town are very much up in their neighbor’s beeswax. Legislation they have proposed seems intent on stripping us of our autonomy and our ability to make decisions for ourselves, all in the name of morality, the definition of which is unclear.

Rural states are particularly vulnerable to the promise of Christian nationalism. In Wyoming, we are white (more than 92 percent) and love God (71 percent identified as Christian in 2014, according to the Pew Research Center) and Mr. Trump (seven in 10 voters picked him in 2020).

The result is bad church and bad law. “God, guns and Trump” is an omnipresent bumper sticker here, the new trinity. The evangelical church has proved to be a supplicating audience for the Christian nationalist roadshow. Indeed, it is unclear to me many Sundays whether we are hearing a sermon or a stump speech.
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In last year’s elections, candidates running on a Christian nationalist platform used fear plus the promise of power to attract votes. Their ads warned about government overreach, religious persecution, mask mandates, threats from immigrants and election fraud. A candidate for secretary of state, an election denier named Chuck Gray, hosted at least one free screening in a church of the roundly debunked film “2,000 Mules,” about alleged voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. (He won the general election unopposed and is now next in line to the governorship.)
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Norman Alexander said:
That alone should have been a disqualifying point for banning anything she requested. No readee, no bannee.
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I haven't read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or Mein Kampf or but I'd fight attempts to promote them to students. :o

That said, like so many things that right wing activists do, this is a flex. She's calling for something to be banned, solely because of what she's heard about it, because she can.
 
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