...I challenge you, Perihelion, to provide a psychic reading that is more precise and definitive than what I provided. Show us how it is done. Show us predictions that cannot be twisted into misses, since you are a "genuine" psychic.
I'm still waiting to see what a "genuine" psychic reading looks like. Give me a reading that is more precise and definitive than the one I did on you.
I have no psychic powers and, according to you, you have some. Therefore, you would have to do at least a little better than me. In addition to that, since my readings were not clear enough and you only accept predictions that hit the nail precisely on the head, vague and ambiguous generalisations will not be accepted.
Blow us away with a true psychic reading.
You have implied that there is a noticeable difference between a cold reading and a "genuine" psychic reading. Once you have made your predictions, please outline how it is different to what I came up with.
I very much doubt it's possible to cold read someone who doesn't even think there's a possibility you're psychic. We could start, however, with "Do you know anyone, friend, relative, distant relative or colleague - anyone - who has a "J name?". If so, who is it? Have they passed?
Remarkable accuracy. If we count that, the reading made by Twiler that Perihelion confirmed was accurate and the three hits I came up with, the score is now:
Cold readers: 5
Perihelion Xanateris: 0
To be fair, we're still waiting on Perihelion's predictions.
I think PX has accepted he got his behind well and truly kicked in this thread and is now claiming psychic powers in a new thread without the same embarrasing thread history.
Originally Posted by AndyD View Post
I very much doubt it's possible to cold read someone who doesn't even think there's a possibility you're psychic. We could start, however, with "Do you know anyone, friend, relative, distant relative or colleague - anyone - who has a "J name?". If so, who is it? Have they passed?
Andy's posts appear to show that most of the guesses which you listed as misses would have required no, or minimal, flexing to be hits. They were certainly well within the range of vagueness and flattery offered by Edwards, Van Prugh and the like. They would, I suspect, have been treated as excellent hits by a person predisposed to believe in clairvoyance during a live reading. The guess you offered partial credit for would have bowled over a live audience.
That you have responded to his pointing this out with a plain insult does nothing to contradict him. Why not explain his error in a calm and reasoned manner so that we can all understand it?
If you go back a few posts you'll see I predicted a Labor Party victory in what turned out to be the closest ever election result in our history. It took over a week for a final result to be delivered.
Just for the record, I can now announce that, despite a massive swing against them, the Labor Party won the most seats of any party in that election.
Another message I was receiving from my spirit guides has also come true overnight though this one, involving legal threats, has been far less fun.
I am serious PX, if I wasn't naturally skeptical, the weird crap that occurs in my mind and life would have me convinced of my abilities. Pigheaded or not, I am that good.
For example, if the psychic says "is there a student in your class by the name of V?" then they are asking you to confirm a sensation or vision, not trying to cold read you. Now, if you can't confirm anything they ask you, then they really are cold reading and you've got a fake on your hands.
I don't really understand what your psychic's question is asking.
No, no student in my class has the given name 'V', but there are some named Vivian (several versions of this, 'Vivienne' and 'Vivien' but they're all different spellings of essentially the same name), Veronica, Valerie, and one very lovely lady has the name Valentina. Would my answer then be considered a win for the psychic, given that a strict interpretation of the question leads to a negative answer but a more loose one is affirmative?
~ Matt
(ps: 'V' being such a hard consonant, and such a rare one with American names, we seem to be rather likely to remember someone with that name as opposed to, say, the letter 'A' which is far softer and far less common)
I assume that you're familiar with Derren Brown. He has, on several occasions, been tested by various psychics and psychic organizations, to do things such as read minds, give psychic predictions, tell what someone is writing on a piece of paper in another room, etc. In every case, not only have the people testing him declared him to be psychic, but they have declared him to be better than many other psychics.
Yet he himself states, quite plainly, that he has no psychic powers whatsoever. It is all done through illusion, and understanding of human psychology.
Here is just one of many examples:
And another great one:
Now, if a person is able to fake results that are just as good or better than people who claim to have "real" psychic powers, why should I believe those powers are real? Hell, Derren is more convincing than many "real" psychics! All of the psychics in the second video actually testify that they can sense/verify Derren's psychic powers...and more importantly, they never even question if he is faking it or not. Derren had a principle in this series that, if anyone asked him if he was telling the truth, or using tricks, that he would reveal it was all faked.
Not one person even questioned him. He did some neat tricks, and they all believed him.
So it's gonna' take a hell of a lot more than vague assertions, and effects that can be 100% replicated by non-psychics, to convince me there's anything real behind this.
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