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The Great Coverup.

varwoche said:
It's entirely possible that Corsi was a conduit between the Trump campaign and Assange, and that's consequential.
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He might also be a Conduit between Trump and RTV similar to how Manafort was a Conduit between Trump and the GRU.
 
theprestige said:
What I'm still curious about is the inciting incident: RTV Moscow gave Corsi the hacked DNC material.

Corsi says he got it from Wikileaks. Both Mueller and the Senate committee seem to subscribe to this narrative. It is generally accepted that Wikileaks had the material and was willing to disseminate it. So why all this extra rigamarole?

There are some dots that can be connected if we wish. The DNC was hacked by Russians. Wikileaks and RTV were in bed together when it happened. It's plausible that RTV and Wikileaks received the material from the hackers at the same time, or that the hackers gave it to someone at RTV, who passed it on to Wikileaks. It's also plausible that the hackers gave it directly to Wikileaks, and Wikileaks passed it to RTV.

But why would RTV be so invested in getting the material to Corsi? He was already seeking it from Wikileaks. Why not just let that play out? Or just tell Assange to move more quickly on it?

I know CC has a fantasy wherein Jerome Corsi is an important linchpin in these affairs, and that his efforts were a critical part of someone's master plan to do... something. But I'm just not seeing it. As far as I can tell, he was a nobody with an axe to grind, and a vested interest in getting his hands on such material on his own initiative.
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Because Corsi Was in ���� Wikileaks was in London, meeting in person means the information from Wikileaks couldn't be traced back to Corsi, he may even have had a member of his family contact RTV in Italy for him.
They were sure very interested in Corsi in 2008, when they called me.

Also why didn't the Durham report go into detail about Durham's investigation in Italy? Could Corsi be involved with that?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...-turn-over-info-on-barr-durham-trip-to-italy/
 
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
Because Corsi Was in ���� Wikileaks was in London, meeting in person means the information from Wikileaks couldn't be traced back to Corsi, he may even have had a member of his family contact RTV in Italy for him.
They were sure very interested in Corsi in 2008, when they called me.

Also why didn't the Durham report go into detail about Durham's investigation in Italy? Could Corsi be involved with that?
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...-turn-over-info-on-barr-durham-trip-to-italy/
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Come on now, that's classic conspiracist thinking, lack of evidence is now evidence of the conspiracy?
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Because Corsi Was in ���� Wikileaks was in London, meeting in person means the information from Wikileaks couldn't be traced back to Corsi, he may even have had a member of his family contact RTV in Italy for him.
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Assange was in London. Wikileaks is a distributed operation. People can contribute from anywhere in the world. I'm sure there are Wikileaks associates or affiliates in Italy.

They were sure very interested in Corsi in 2008, when they called me.
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I'll be honest with you: I don't believe this happened.
 
theprestige said:
Assange was in London. Wikileaks is a distributed operation. People can contribute from anywhere in the world. I'm sure there are Wikileaks associates or affiliates in Italy.


I'll be honest with you: I don't believe this happened.
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You can believe what you want I picked up the phone my Caller ID identified them as RTV. Maybe you might want to ask yourself why Corsi didn't publish his 9/11No Planer Story he said would be earth Shaking, and who gave him the Nasa F4 link Ryan Mackey posted on this very forum.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
You can believe what you want I picked up the phone my Caller ID identified them as RTV.
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Rephrasing or adding details to the narrative doesn't make it any more believable to me. If I don't trust the claim, it's a waste of your time to keep repeating it.

Maybe you might want to ask yourself why Corsi didn't publish his 9/11No Planer Story he said would be earth Shaking, and who gave him the Nasa F4 link Ryan Mackey posted on this very forum.
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Those are not questions I have or care about.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
You can believe what you want I picked up the phone my Caller ID identified them as RTV.
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Holup. You're saying that not only did the Russians have your personal cel phone number, but they allowed their own caller ID to be recorded instead of blocking it as a private number? They wanted to make sure they left hard phone records of their number as proof? Pretty lame cloak and dagger work. Also, my caller ID didn't list any number that was not in my contacts back then, so I assume it was just the international number that showed on your screen, yes? Well, at least you could easily post the cel phone record as proof they called you. Looking forward to it!

Maybe you might want to ask yourself why Corsi didn't publish his 9/11No Planer Story he said would be earth Shaking, and who gave him the Nasa F4 link Ryan Mackey posted on this very forum.
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Probably due to publishing issues or costs, or realizing the premise was so weak that it was bound to lose money. Virtually certain it would have nothing to do with some random guy in Kentucky, who the Russians imagined had some control over a guy who, what, didnt exactly listen to you?
 
I do admit I'm a bit curious about the substance of this alleged phone conversation.

"Hi, this is Ricky, from Ricky's Termite and Vermin. You left a message about needing some pest control on your property? How does next Saturday work for you?"

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This is all code, of course. "Ricky" is actually Ruslan T. Vladimir, CEO of RTV Moscow. "Pest control" is obviously a reference to Corsi. The bit about "next Saturday" just means they want to know how quickly CC thinks he can get Corsi back on track.
 
Thermal said:
Holup. You're saying that not only did the Russians have your personal cel phone number, but they allowed their own caller ID to be recorded instead of blocking it as a private number? They wanted to make sure they left hard phone records of their number as proof? Pretty lame cloak and dagger work. Also, my caller ID didn't list any number that was not in my contacts back then, so I assume it was just the international number that showed on your screen, yes? Well, at least you could easily post the cel phone record as proof they called you. Looking forward to it!



Probably due to publishing issues or costs, or realizing the premise was so weak that it was bound to lose money. Virtually certain it would have nothing to do with some random guy in Kentucky, who the Russians imagined had some control over a guy who, what, didnt exactly listen to you?
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I was actually contacted by someone from RTV in 2005, asking for permission to use a Video on their program after I was on the Tonight show with Jay Leno. I told them go ahead I had no objection too it.

Actually I had Dr. FRANK R. Greenings Appollo20 Debunking of Dr Steven Earl Jones, of BYU, since corsi based his Book on Jones Work, and Jones work was debunked by FRANK in 2007 and Corsi went on Alex Jones's Infowars in January 2008, and said he was Writing and earth shaking story and Book, it's pretty obvious Russia didn't want Corsi exposed to the right wing media as a 9/11No Brainer nut job to this day he says he never wrote a story or a book, he promised to send me one for Christmas 2008, free of charge.

I think they were actually following the 9/11Debate possibly on this forum or on Physorg, at the time.
 
theprestige said:
I do admit I'm a bit curious about the substance of this alleged phone conversation.

"Hi, this is Ricky, from Ricky's Termite and Vermin. You left a message about needing some pest control on your property? How does next Saturday work for you?"

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This is all code, of course. "Ricky" is actually Ruslan T. Vladimir, CEO of RTV Moscow. "Pest control" is obviously a reference to Corsi. The bit about "next Saturday" just means they want to know how quickly CC thinks he can get Corsi back on track.
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Actually his name was Dimitri I can't remember the last name believe it started with an M, he said he was a producer or something like that with RTV in Moscow the Russian accent made it very hard fir me to understand him.
The person I talked too in 2005 spoke perfect Engish and told me just to call her Nikita or Nikki I can't remember which it's been so long.
 
theprestige said:
My headcanon is that you got a call from Dmitry Medvedev.
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As I said I can't remember the last Name just know he was really interested in Corsi Getting the Information from Frank Before Corsi Published his Earth Shattering story and Book that Corsi worked a year on while borrowing money from Simon and Shuster on the book promising them a best seller like his Book of Lies on John Kerry.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
I was actually contacted by someone from RTV in 2005, asking for permission to use a Video on their program after I was on the Tonight show with Jay Leno. I told them go ahead I had no objection too it.
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OK. You keep repeating that you were on Leno. I am trying to get a little context about your history-altering appearance there, but using the real life name you've been posting, I'm not seeing you as a guest? You've said you were contacted by RT in 2005, and the network actually launched in December of 2005, so I'm using that as a window.

Can you clear up when you appeared?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno/episodes-season-14/1000227212/
 
Thermal said:
OK. You keep repeating that you were on Leno. I am trying to get a little context about your history-altering appearance there, but using the real life name you've been posting, I'm not seeing you as a guest? You've said you were contacted by RT in 2005, and the network actually launched in December of 2005, so I'm using that as a window.

Can you clear up when you appeared?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno/episodes-season-14/1000227212/
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Maybe Homeland Security briefly thought he might be a guest on Leno?
 
theprestige said:
Maybe Homeland Security briefly thought he might be a guest on Leno?
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Why don't you ask some Members of this forum about it, several on here actually saw me carving on my toe nails with a Chainsaw.
June 10th 2005, and I caved a J &L on my big toenails.
I think it may have been in December when I first talked to RTV the first time. They had just started a new Educational program and wanted to use a Video to teach Russians how to do Chainsaw Sculpture
It was an instructional Video I gave to a Visiting Russian TV crew at the international Barbue Festival in Owensboro Kentucky in 2004.
 
Thermal said:
OK. You keep repeating that you were on Leno. I am trying to get a little context about your history-altering appearance there, but using the real life name you've been posting, I'm not seeing you as a guest? You've said you were contacted by RT in 2005, and the network actually launched in December of 2005, so I'm using that as a window.

Can you clear up when you appeared?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno/episodes-season-14/1000227212/
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Try looking up Ripley's "Believe it or Not" planet Eccentric, that might clue you in a little bit but maybe next you will tell me I was never in Ripley's 3 times.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Try looking up Ripley's "Believe it or Not" planet Eccentric, that might clue you in a little bit but maybe next you will tell me I was never in Ripley's 3 times.
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I asked you to clear it up. You have done so extremely indirectly. Thank you.

So your appearance on Leno has nothing at all to do with the story, nor does the first RT call. You were doing a Chainsaw stunt. RT didn't contact you over anything being discussed here, but you repeat it vaguely in the discussion, and that makes it sound like the two have something to do with each other. Its highly misleading. Surely you understand that?
 
Thermal said:
I asked you to clear it up. You have done so extremely indirectly. Thank you.

So your appearance on Leno has nothing at all to do with the story, nor does the first RT call. You were doing a Chainsaw stunt. RT didn't contact you over anything being discussed here, but you repeat it vaguely in the discussion, and that makes it sound like the two have something to do with each other. Its highly misleading. Surely you understand that?
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I just told you why I had RtV Moscow on my contact List.
 
Thermal said:
I asked you to clear it up. You have done so extremely indirectly. Thank you.

So your appearance on Leno has nothing at all to do with the story, nor does the first RT call. You were doing a Chainsaw stunt. RT didn't contact you over anything being discussed here, but you repeat it vaguely in the discussion, and that makes it sound like the two have something to do with each other. Its highly misleading. Surely you understand that?
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theprestige said:
At this point you've done more to establish your connection to RTV than you've done to establish Corsi's connection.
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The only connection I had to RTV at that Time was letting them use a 2004 Video on how to do Chainsaw Sculpture for one of their new art programs. I guess that makes me a super spy. No contact after that until the call in 2008. So 3 years of no contact with RTV.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
I just told you why I had RtV Moscow on my contact List.
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OK. Kind of strange to put a one-call out of the blue number in your contacts and keep it there for years, but OK. Stranger still that they would take a short old clip of a Chainsaw stunt performance and somehow associate it years later with some conspiracy chump, but whatever.

What I'm trying to get across to you is that it is extremely difficult to follow your postings. You're all over the place with random red herrings and refuse to answer anything directly. Then you say you can't quite remember names or dates but you want us to take your word about conflicting information about your recollections of Corsi.
 
Thermal said:
OK. Kind of strange to put a one-call out of the blue number in your contacts and keep it there for years, but OK. Stranger still that they would take a short old clip of a Chainsaw stunt performance and somehow associate it years later with some conspiracy chump, but whatever.

What I'm trying to get across to you is that it is extremely difficult to follow your postings. You're all over the place with random red herrings and refuse to answer anything directly. Then you say you can't quite remember names or dates but you want us to take your word about conflicting information about your recollections of Corsi.
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I just remembered the first Time they contacted me was after Leno, my Number was on my business website at the time, anyone could have looked it up online.

I took the first RTV phone call while I was on my computer corresponding with another Chainsaw artist about buying the Carving Kit I offered at the time though my old website.
I made a Habit of recording all phone numbers from any Media into my contacts on my computer, that was just good Buisness.

I was not expecting the phone call in 2008 or for it to be about a Crazy Infowars Conspiracy theorist, they didn't even Tell me Corsi had done Alex Jones's radio Show, Just that he had been talking to Alex and Steven Jones about 9/11.
I didn't even know who Corsi was, until I called him the first time, the call didn't go very well. He was the other name for a Donkey.. He told me to leave the Science too the PHDs some racist garbage about why Osama Bin Laden was Innocent, and Email him my name and Address and I could get a copy of his Book "The Bush Nation How George Walker Bush attacked America in a False Flag to steal Iraqi Oil" by Christmas 2008.

Then I sent him one Email and told him Alex and Steven Jones were lying to him, and then he was begging me for help to save his Job, and career.
I was disgusted at this point but I took pity on him and sent him the F4 Phantom Video, and told him what to do reject all the crazy Twoofer Claims.
I thought he would learn his lesson atleast I had hoped so.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
I just remembered the first Time they contacted me was after Leno, my Number was on my business website at the time, anyone could have looked it up online.

I took the first RTV phone call while I was on my computer corresponding with another Chainsaw artist about buying the Carving Kit I offered at the time though my old website.
I made a Habit of recording all phone numbers from any Media into my contacts on my computer, that was just good Buisness.

I was not expecting the phone call in 2008 or for it to be about a Crazy Infowars Conspiracy theorist, they didn't even Tell me Corsi had done Alex Jones's radio Show, Just that he had been talking to Alex and Steven Jones about 9/11.
I didn't even know who Corsi was, until I called him the first time, the call didn't go very well. He was the other name for a Donkey.. He told me to leave the Science too the PHDs some racist garbage about why Osama Bin Laden was Innocent, and Email him my name and Address and I could get a copy of his Book "The Bush Nation How George Walker Bush attacked America in a False Flag to steal Iraqi Oil" by Christmas 2008.

Then I sent him one Email and told him Alex and Steven Jones were lying to him, and then he was begging me for help to save his Job, and career.
I was disgusted at this point but I took pity on him and sent him the F4 Phantom Video, and told him what to do reject all the crazy Twoofer Claims.
I thought he would learn his lesson atleast I had hoped so.
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OK, so none of that actually has anything to do with your conspiracy theory?

Eta: actually, it clears up that you had basically nothing to do with Corsi, despite all this talk about him. A phone call where he blew you off, and an email with an attached video?

So back to the Great Cover-up. There still is no evidence of a cover up, great or otherwise, except for some spitballing scenarios that have no supporting evidence? Is that where we stand?
 
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Thermal said:
OK, so none of that actually has anything to do with your conspiracy theory?

Eta: actually, it clears up that you had basically nothing to do with Corsi, despite all this talk about him. A phone call where he blew you off, and an email with an attached video?

So back to the Great Cover-up. There still is no evidence of a cover up, great or otherwise, except for some spitballing scenarios that have no supporting evidence? Is that where we stand?
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Not actually there is the aassange trial if it ever happens and the new investigation into Rodger Stone, both of those could shed light on Corsi's involvement with trump, Stone, Corsi, and Assange, if the Democrats retake the House this year they will probably have hearings on Trump and his enablers in Congress.
There could even be an attempt to modify the 14th Amendment or the Insurrection act.

Cover ups are cover ups because they are covered up and hard to dig out.
Do you actually believe Corsi Told Mueller the Truth?
And you are Right I should never have taken, Corsi's, Trump's, and Joe Arapio's word that Corsi was a paid Advisor to Trump. They are all three Liars.
So why again do you think Corsi Told Mueller the Truth?
 
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
Not actually there is the aassange trial if it ever happens and the new investigation into Rodger Stone, both of those could shed light on Corsi's involvement with trump, Stone, Corsi, and Assange, if the Democrats retake the House this year they will probably have hearings on Trump and his enablers in Congress.
There could even be an attempt to modify the 14th Amendment or the Insurrection act.

Cover ups are cover ups because they are covered up and hard to dig out.
Do you actually believe Corsi Told Mueller the Truth?
And you are Right I should never have taken, Corsi's, Trump's, and Joe Arapio's word that Corsi was a paid Advisor to Trump. They are all three Liars.
So why again do you think Corsi Told Mueller the Truth?
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I dunno. But I see no reasons to entertain the idea of a Cover-up, Great or otherwise, that seems to have no evidence for it at all
 
Thermal said:
I dunno. But I see no reasons to entertain the idea of a Cover-up, Great or otherwise, that seems to have no evidence for it at all
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Could it be the Evidence is yet to be discovered, because Obstruction is ment to hided a Crime, and if Obstruction works the Crime is covered up.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Could it be the Evidence is yet to be discovered, because Obstruction is ment to hided a Crime, and if Obstruction works the Crime is covered up.
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Sure. It could be discovered that Corsi is a Lizard Man on the DL too. But no reason to spitbsll about it.
 
Thermal said:
Semi random listing made that fun reading. CC said he was on once in 2004. His name is not listed as a once appearing guest in 2004.

Yet I think we've determined it has literally nothing to do with anything, despite bringing it up all the time.
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2005 the same year the GRU Propaganda Outlet RTV Started.
At least that's what the CIA called RTV.

It set the timeline for my first contact with RTV, giving them top secret Information on how to split Hairs with a Chainsaw.
 
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Crazy Chainsaw said:
2005 the same year the GRU Propaganda Outlet RTV Started.
At least that's what the CIA called RTV.

It set the timeline for my first contact with RTV, giving them top secret Information on how to split Hairs with a Chainsaw.
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You're not listed as a one time guest in 2005 either. Or 2006, or 2007. But we've established that it literally has nothing to do with anything, right? You could pull up B your cel.phome records and show that you were at least called by RT, or ce out and say when you appeared on Leno. But instead you give evasive non-answers.

Come on, buddy, I'm just asking simple direct questions. It's not a Russian interrogation.
 
Thermal said:
You're not listed as a one time guest in 2005 either. Or 2006, or 2007. But we've established that it literally has nothing to do with anything, right? You could pull up B your cel.phome records and show that you were at least called by RT, or ce out and say when you appeared on Leno. But instead you give evasive non-answers.

Come on, buddy, I'm just asking simple direct questions. It's not a Russian interrogation.
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They didn't call on my Cell phone, but on my home phone, I dont have that home phone any more.

The contact information might still be on my 2003 E machine Computer in storage, but I haven't turned it on in ten years.

The Leno appearence was part of a do not do this at home segment.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/caxvLpG6tGGLbrhf9

Hope you can see that.
 
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Crazy Chainsaw, I accept your word that you appeared, briefly, on the Tonight Show doing stuff with a chainsaw.

I don't believe that RT phoned you to get permission to reuse that footage. Even if we were to assume that RT were respecting US IP law, you were not the copyright holder. They would have no reason to contact you.

That aside, I still have no idea how we get from you trimming your toenails with a chainsaw to RT contacting you years later because Corsi is super important and they need you to do...something?

Until you can give us a coherent narrative, with at least some evidence, I'm sticking with this:

1. Corsi is not a supervillain.

2. You are not Ethan Hunt.

Ttfn.


ETA: I neither desire nor require a rambling, irrelevant onion-on-belt response to this. If you can't provide a clear description of the conspiracy you are suggesting, with any relevant evidence you have presented at the appropriate point, then I would rather you just ignored this post.
 
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junkshop said:
Crazy Chainsaw, I accept your word that you appeared, briefly, on the Tonight Show doing stuff with a chainsaw.

I don't believe that RT phoned you to get permission to reuse that footage. Even if we were to assume that RT were respecting US IP law, you were not the copyright holder. They would have no reason to contact you.

That aside, I still have no idea how we get from you trimming your toenails with a chainsaw to RT contacting you years later because Corsi is super important and they need you to do...something?

Until you can give us a coherent narrative, with at least some evidence, I'm sticking with this:

1. Corsi is not a supervillain.

2. You are not Ethan Hunt.

Ttfn.


ETA: I neither desire nor require a rambling, irrelevant onion-on-belt response to this. If you can't provide a clear description of the conspiracy you are suggesting, with any relevant evidence you have presented at the appropriate point, then I would rather you just ignored this post.
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I was the Author of the Recording on how to do Chainsaw Sculpture it was an educational Recording nothing to do with my appearance on the Tonight show.
 
junkshop said:
Crazy Chainsaw, I accept your word that you appeared, briefly, on the Tonight Show doing stuff with a chainsaw.

I don't believe that RT phoned you to get permission to reuse that footage. Even if we were to assume that RT were respecting US IP law, you were not the copyright holder. They would have no reason to contact you.

That aside, I still have no idea how we get from you trimming your toenails with a chainsaw to RT contacting you years later because Corsi is super important and they need you to do...something?

Until you can give us a coherent narrative, with at least some evidence, I'm sticking with this:

1. Corsi is not a supervillain.

2. You are not Ethan Hunt.

Ttfn.


ETA: I neither desire nor require a rambling, irrelevant onion-on-belt response to this. If you can't provide a clear description of the conspiracy you are suggesting, with any relevant evidence you have presented at the appropriate point, then I would rather you just ignored this post.
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This was a snippet of the Alex Jones radio Show corsi appeared on. That was in January 2008, RTV contacted me in February 2008.

https://youtu.be/-yCfI3VmL88?si=J8eufNa2VtqjpqT3
 
CC my man, I really think you're putting too much weight on Corsi. He was never more than a low profile schmuck conspiracy theorist. It would need to be plausibly shown that he had some weight to finagle him into being a player in any sort of Great Coverup.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
This was a snippet of the Alex Jones radio Show corsi appeared on. That was in January 2008, RTV contacted me in February 2008.

https://youtu.be/-yCfI3VmL88?si=J8eufNa2VtqjpqT3
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I'd bet dollars to rubles that the two were unrelated. Maybe this Dmitry was a low level worker running through old contacts in the RT Roodex and running himself a little scam to see if anyone bit, offering fake Russian luxury trips?
 
junkshop said:
Crazy Chainsaw, I accept your word that you appeared, briefly, on the Tonight Show doing stuff with a chainsaw.

I don't believe that RT phoned you to get permission to reuse that footage. Even if we were to assume that RT were respecting US IP law, you were not the copyright holder. They would have no reason to contact you.

That aside, I still have no idea how we get from you trimming your toenails with a chainsaw to RT contacting you years later because Corsi is super important and they need you to do...something?

Until you can give us a coherent narrative, with at least some evidence, I'm sticking with this:

1. Corsi is not a supervillain.

2. You are not Ethan Hunt.

Ttfn.


ETA: I neither desire nor require a rambling, irrelevant onion-on-belt response to this. If you can't provide a clear description of the conspiracy you are suggesting, with any relevant evidence you have presented at the appropriate point, then I would rather you just ignored this post.
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As far as I can tell, CC is alleging the following sequence of events:
  1. RTV sees his appearance on the Today Show, and thinks his artistry might make good content for one of their programs.
  2. RTV researches CC, and finds a likely candidate among his YouTube videos.
  3. RTV calls CC to get his permission to use his video.
  4. RTV somehow gets the impression that CC can help them with their Corsi Problem, whatever the **** that's supposed to be.
  5. RTV calls CC again, to ask him to help solve their Corsi Problem, again whatever the **** that's supposed to be.
I'd ask CC to confirm or correct my understanding, but I too am at my limit for belt-onions.
 
theprestige said:
As far as I can tell, CC is alleging the following sequence of events:
  1. RTV sees his appearance on the Today Show, and thinks his artistry might make good content for one of their programs.
  2. RTV researches CC, and finds a likely candidate among his YouTube videos.
  3. RTV calls CC to get his permission to use his video.
  4. RTV somehow gets the impression that CC can help them with their Corsi Problem, whatever the **** that's supposed to be.
  5. RTV calls CC again, to ask him to help solve their Corsi Problem, again whatever the **** that's supposed to be.
I'd ask CC to confirm or correct my understanding, but I too am at my limit for belt-onions.
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...about that step #4...
 
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