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Terrorism Conspiracy Theories and the 1978 Sydney Hilton bombings, Lockerbie, 9/11

Walter Ego

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From the You Tube description:

Adjunct Professor Clive Williams from the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre at The Australian National University examines the nature of conspiracy theories, particularly in relation to terrorist incidents - including 9/11. Discover the covert role played by aliens, neo-cons, shape shifters, Israeli agents, spin doctors or neo-Nazis in the significant events that have shaped our world. This public lecture was recorded on 15 March 2010.
Running time: One hour, twenty-six minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMBQ...3996E4666&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=5

Truther knickers already in a twist over this one!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20100414044822427

Hat Tip: SLC Blog.
 
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Interesting, thanks for that. Will watch later.

Truther knickers already in a twist over this one!

911truth.org

It is probably most disturbing for us who care, however, that the ABC has never reported to the Australian public that the 9/11 victims' families are demanding a new investigation and have broad support by the majority of the world's population in questioning the official 9/11 "conspiracy theory".

sigh...
 
I can't get the volume high enough to hear what the guy's saying, dammit.

Rolfe.
 
I can't get the volume high enough to hear what the guy's saying, dammit.

Rolfe.

And mp3 audio of the same lecture will be posted on the Aussie ABC radio network on April 18. I'll post the link when it's available.
 
Since you mentioned Lockerbie, I have to watch ... seems to just come at the whole array of paranoia and skepticism. He seems fairly open minded and of good humor. Takes a long time to even get to the stated issues... 26:10 that starts.

The first attack and CT is new to me, so that's interesting. Not sure what to make of it. I expected a debunking, but he seems to frame the CT claims favorably and notes government secrecy. Seems like something I might study closer someday.

Lockerbie starts about 34:00. "among the 7 deadliest airliner fatalities" is a curious phrase. It's re: Iran Air 655, actually. Unfortunately, he's nowhere near as knowledgeable on this issue as the first. I'll have to look at Barkham's A-Z list again, but it's cited as a source. Patrick Haseldine isn't an investigative journalist. He seems to find these arguments bunk, and they come across as jumbled theories opposed to evidence and conviction. He fails to notice any positive evidence of Megrahi's innocence (there's plenty), nor any specific problems with the amazingly flawed case and trial, and ends with pointing out he's still alive in Libya, hinting a conspiracy in itself, which he doesn't pause to explore. It's immediately onto 9/11.

From there, whatever.
 
I still haven't watched it because I can't hear it even with the voume turmed right up.

It's easy enough to make any discussion about Lockerbie sound like a crazy CT. It's a huge subject with an enormous amount of evidence to get to grips with. Hard to make a knowledgeable critique, but very eay just to trot out a few sceptical phrases.

I get the impression this guy doesn't actually know an great deal about it.

Rolfe.
 
I still haven't watched it because I can't hear it even with the voume turmed right up.

It's easy enough to make any discussion about Lockerbie sound like a crazy CT. It's a huge subject with an enormous amount of evidence to get to grips with. Hard to make a knowledgeable critique, but very eay just to trot out a few sceptical phrases.

I get the impression this guy doesn't actually know an great deal about it.

Rolfe.

The audio is now available in a podcast from ABC National Radio.

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2010/04/bia_20100418.mp3

I could hear the video with no problem. Maybe you'll have better luck with the audio version.
 
The guy talks pretty quiet, and they could've boosted it more, but with my volume cranked, yeah Rolfe just needs new speakers. :)
 
I was using in-ear phones, dammit! I cranked both the YouTube volume and my own computer's volume controls to the max, but no dice. Usually, my problem is having to turn down the volume PDQ because my ears are being blasted.

I'll try the audio version later.

Rolfe.
 

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