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Resistance Twitter 2.0

Where will the resistance end up posting, mostly?

  • Bluesky

    Votes: 16 72.7%

  • Threads

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Mastodon

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other (please specify in comments)

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • On Planet X, we resist telepathically

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
Orphia Nay said:
You're not a moderator. That's what moderators do. And it's been shown the BB wan't banned.
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I don't know how it works, but the instant censoring of posts containing nothing but statements of biological fact is remarkable. They must have about a million moderators.
 
Rolfe said:
I don't know how it works, but the instant censoring of posts containing nothing but statements of biological fact is remarkable. They must have about a million moderators.
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A right wing “satire” site = “statements of biological fact”.

Amazing that more people don’t want to stick around Twitter for more engagement of this caliber.
 
Where did I put my tiny violin?



Agrowing number of conservatives have been joining Bluesky, the microblogging website being touted as an alternative to Elon Musk's X (formerly Twitter), where several say they have either faced censorship from the platform or widespread abuse.

One prominent conservative social media user said their Bluesky account was shut down after they posted "there are only two genders," whilst another was slapped with a content warning after labelling Rachel Levine, a transgender woman in the Biden administration, as "man of the year."
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www.newsweek.com

Conservatives join Bluesky, face abuse and censorship

One conservative commentator claimed they were blocked from Bluesky for posting "there are only two genders."
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alfaniner said:
TwiX suddenly changed their format in the last day or so. It used to just give me mostly a single-word list of subject like "Monday" or "Conflict" with all the MAGA idiot comments visible if you clicked on it. Now it shows full headlines and related stories if you click. I don't know how to see the unwashed idiots' comments any more.
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It is back the old way now. I don't know what was going on there. Back to just names and single words.
 
I Am The Scum said:
One of this simplest ways to deal a blow to the right wing is to cause Elon's expensive blunder to swirl even farther down the toilet bowl.
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Take away their own safe space. Meet every MAGA post with scathing rebuttals till they don't want to be there anymore either. It would involve a lot of effort and sock accounts because of inevitable insta bans, but making them look in the mirror on their home field would surely pack a punch?
 


This is not the thread for trans issues

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Thermal said:
Take away their own safe space. Meet every MAGA post with scathing rebuttals till they don't want to be there anymore either. It would involve a lot of effort and sock accounts because of inevitable insta bans, but making them look in the mirror on their home field would surely pack a punch?
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Just like revealing Obama's long form birth certificate completely shut up those people who said he was born in Kenya!

No, the facts aren't going to sway these people. The only reason "debate me bro" culture exists is as a pseudointellectual flex. The right wing is overflowing with conspiracy theories because these people are not engaged in a fundamentally rational exercise.

So it's not going to be the facts. Sometimes it is enough to show public, vocal disagreement, but I don't think that's relevant here. The right wing is also largely a reactionary movement. They know people disagree with them, it makes them mad, and on a good day they can articulate why. Personally, I don't see what is gained by posting more on Elon's site.
 
Thermal said:
Take away their own safe space. Meet every MAGA post with scathing rebuttals till they don't want to be there anymore either. It would involve a lot of effort and sock accounts because of inevitable insta bans, but making them look in the mirror on their home field would surely pack a punch?
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What if you just want to use social media to interact with friends and talk about movies or your hobbies?

What if you don't want your social media experience to be rife with confrontation and hostility?

These platforms weren't originally designed to be battlefields of political disagreement and culture war nonsense.

Just look at this forum as a microcosm. I've been in multiple threads in which the usual suspects try to make it about the issue we just received a mod warning to not discuss - including this thread - despite the topic of thread having nothing to do with that. It's exhausting.

Do you think that's better or worse under Musk's Twitter?

Is everyone on social media required to gear up for conflict every time once of these chuds pollutes their feed?
 
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I Am The Scum said:
Just like revealing Obama's long form birth certificate completely shut up those people who said he was born in Kenya!

No, the facts aren't going to sway these people. The only reason "debate me bro" culture exists is as a pseudointellectual flex. The right wing is overflowing with conspiracy theories because these people are not engaged in a fundamentally rational exercise.

So it's not going to be the facts. Sometimes it is enough to show public, vocal disagreement, but I don't think that's relevant here. The right wing is also largely a reactionary movement. They know people disagree with them, it makes them mad, and on a good day they can articulate why. Personally, I don't see what is gained by posting more on Elon's site.
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No, The Resistance doesn't argue. The Resistance clashes. Their tool is a Molotov, not a podium. Metaphorically, anyway. Dive into the cesspool and beat them at their own game.
 
johnny karate said:
What if you just want to use social media to interact with friends and talk about movies or your hobbies?

What if you don't want your social media experience to be rife with confrontation and hostility?

There platforms weren't originally designed to be battlefields of political disagreement and culture war nonsense.

Just look at this forum as a microcosm. I've been in multiple threads in which the usual suspects try to make it about the issue we just received a mod warning to not discuss - including this thread - despite the topic of thread having nothing to do with that. It's exhausting.

Do you think that's better or worse under Musk's Twitter?

Is everyone on social media required to gear up for conflict every time once of these chuds pollutes their feed?
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As I keep saying, I totally agree.

This topic is very, very specifically about where The Resistance will post. You can't really disconnect politics and battle from that. It's what it *is*.

A Safe Space posting discussion is great, but it ain't this one.
 
Thermal said:
As I keep saying, I totally agree.

This topic is very, very specifically about where The Resistance will post. You can't really disconnect politics and battle from that. It's what it *is*.

A Safe Space posting discussion is great, but it ain't this one.
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Okay fair point, but I think the discussion has evolved into talking about the general migration from Twitter to Bluesky.

But if we want to be pedantic about it, the OP specifically refers to people resisting Trump. Shouldn’t they all be over at Truth Social?

I prefer to not be overly pedantic and interpret the “Resistance” as people who no longer want to put up with right wing goons that want to make everything a stupid culture war debate.
 
johnny karate said:
Okay fair point, but I think the discussion has evolved into talking about the general migration from Twitter to Bluesky.

But if we want to be pedantic about it, the OP specifically refers to people resisting Trump. Shouldn’t they all be over at Truth Social?

I prefer to not be overly pedantic and interpret the “Resistance” as people who no longer want to put up with right wing goons that want to make everything a stupid culture war debate.
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Ok, but there is literally a pre-existing thread around here somewhere about what the next twitter was going to be, I think favoring Mastodon early on.

I'm actually acutely interested in where my fellow troublemakers will be. I'm getting a bit old for all that now, but I still plan on keeping a hand in, so the *actual, on-topic* discussion still has my attention.
 
johnny karate said:
Okay fair point, but I think the discussion has evolved into talking about the general migration from Twitter to Bluesky.

But if we want to be pedantic about it, the OP specifically refers to people resisting Trump. Shouldn’t they all be over at Truth Social?

I prefer to not be overly pedantic and interpret the “Resistance” as people who no longer want to put up with right wing goons that want to make everything a stupid culture war debate.
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They shouldn't necessarily be over at Truth Social. They should - eventually - be wherever they think effective resistance can best be mounted. More about that in a moment.

But they also should have a "home base" - a place where they can plan and organize. Where they can agree on where to focus their resistance efforts. Since the Internet is a thing, that place should probably be an online forum with a strong sense of identity and powerful tools for silencing and/or ejecting voices that aren't part of the team. It sounds ugly, but that's the way it has to be.

I'd have thought Democratic Underground (2.0?) would be a better place for such plotting, but kids these days...

... Anyway, I suspect that resisting Trump will largely have to take place in the real world, not online. Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA movement goes to college campuses and engages students in conversation. You want to resist his influence, show up to those conversations. Join the local Parent-Teacher Association. Show up to school board meetings. Show up to city council meetings. Wherever ideas are being converted into actions, get involved. Whether with brickbats and molotovs, or heated rhetoric, or gentle remonstration, get out from behind the keyboard and show up.

But, you know, go ahead and hatch your plot on social media first. Why not?

ETA: Or just join your local antifa clique. I suspect the serious resisters probably already have their safe spaces for plotting. Spaces where everyone is a trusted operative, and they feel safe enough to plot the more serious acts of resistance.
 
theprestige said:
They shouldn't necessarily be over at Truth Social. They should - eventually - be wherever they think effective resistance can best be mounted. More about that in a moment.

But they also should have a "home base" - a place where they can plan and organize. Where they can agree on where to focus their resistance efforts. Since the Internet is a thing, that place should probably be an online forum with a strong sense of identity and powerful tools for silencing and/or ejecting voices that aren't part of the team. It sounds ugly, but that's the way it has to be.

I'd have thought Democratic Underground (2.0?) would be a better place for such plotting, but kids these days...

... Anyway, I suspect that resisting Trump will largely have to take place in the real world, not online. Charlie Kirk's Turning Point USA movement goes to college campuses and engages students in conversation. You want to resist his influence, show up to those conversations. Join the local Parent-Teacher Association. Show up to school board meetings. Show up to city council meetings. Wherever ideas are being converted into actions, get involved. Whether with brickbats and molotovs, or heated rhetoric, or gentle remonstration, get out from behind the keyboard and show up.

But, you know, go ahead and hatch your plot on social media first. Why not?

ETA: Or just join your local antifa clique. I suspect the serious resisters probably already have their safe spaces for plotting. Spaces where everyone is a trusted operative, and they feel safe enough to plot the more serious acts of resistance.
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Yup, especially the ETA. An actual Resistance isn't posting, per se. They are doing some +/- dirty work and are a bit DL about it. Not the kind of thing you want a public record of.
 
Thermal said:
Ok, but there is literally a pre-existing thread around here somewhere about what the next twitter was going to be, I think favoring Mastodon early on.

I'm actually acutely interested in where my fellow troublemakers will be. I'm getting a bit old for all that now, but I still plan on keeping a hand in, so the *actual, on-topic* discussion still has my attention.
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I respect and understand your point of view, even if I don't completely agree with it.
 
Thermal said:
Ok, but there is literally a pre-existing thread around here somewhere about what the next twitter was going to be, I think favoring Mastodon early on.

I'm actually acutely interested in where my fellow troublemakers will be. I'm getting a bit old for all that now, but I still plan on keeping a hand in, so the *actual, on-topic* discussion still has my attention.
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That's what Telegram is for. This bragging about flouncing from Twitter to Bluesky is for lightweights. When the Gilead boots hit the ground and the modified garbage trucks start scooping up liberal demonstrators, you're going to want to use an encrypted app to share info on which safe houses have the best floorboards to hide under.

As for real world actions...Those with a stereotypical masculine appearance, start using the women's bathrooms and make sure you sit to pee. Get that blue bracelet and liberal women will instantly recognize your gesture of solidarity leaving only the TERF chuds to freak out and, when they do, shame them.

People appearing stereotypically feminine. Ditch that right now. Shear that hair, burn that makeup, rend those skirts, blouses and dresses and start wearing baggy Bud Light blue coveralls. Liberal men will go wild for this look and, unfortunately, may try to have sex with you. Just flash them your 4B card, they'll get the message.

Use you still existing Twitter accounts to announce how you won't be sending your kids to university but instead be preparing them for work in the agriculture sector, cleaning hotel rooms, and driving taxis. Class war for the win!

DARVO. Open an account and start posting pro-Maga at Truth Social. This will only take up about 10 minutes per day and may provide a little insurance should you get picked up in an anti-insurrectionist sweep after IDAY (inauguration day for those still not yet in the loop)

Forget about Mastodon, it's already been coopted and colonized by sleeper agents.

Stay safe out there people.
 
If really like to throw a Molotov cocktail, but at my age I think I'd rather just throw back a cocktail and let the kids have at it. I put my time in and frankly I'm too old for this ◊◊◊◊.

Do these Zs and Alphas get up and actually do stuff, or do the Xers and a few Millineals still gotta lead the charge? We got bills to pay and stuff.
 
Zs have been outed as Trump supporters and they're currently working on "guiding" the Alphas along the same path. Xers are too busy complaining about not being able to afford a house while Millennials are too buys convincing them that life is about experiences, not possessions. There may be some hope with the Millennials as I'm sure they'd just love to sit around sipping cocktails made with ingredients I have to look up and share their plans about their upcoming trips for a little waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay that they saw advertised on Bluesky.
 
Rolfe said:
Ha ha! I approve this message!

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Bluesky is hell on Earth

The ‘nice’ version of Twitter is a breeding ground for status-craving sociopaths and thin-skinned snitches.
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Yes that's all present and correct. I think of Musk's X as a Galileo moment where all the random acts are out there somewhere, but free speech is the anchoring sun in the middle.
Now this Bluesky is back to the crazed epicycles.
I search names of people whose views I consider make sense, and they are predominantly ridiculed and denounced on Bluesky.
 
Samson said:
Yes that's all present and correct. I think of Musk's X as a Galileo moment where all the random acts are out there somewhere, but free speech is the anchoring sun in the middle.
Now this Bluesky is back to the crazed epicycles.
I search names of people whose views I consider make sense, and they are predominantly ridiculed and denounced on Bluesky.
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To be fair you and the names you you consider make sense are ridiculed here as well.
 
Meanwhile I dunno if this is true but it was my prediction:

"Liberals are now FLOCKING back to X, after getting bann3d by other liberals on BIuesky. "


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well i'm sure you could make that ◊◊◊◊ up

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dirtywick said:
well i'm sure you could make that ◊◊◊◊ up
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I expected it. The very first thing the rocket surgeons at Atheism+ did is was turn on each other. It's a depressingly common and entirely predictable failure mode of such communities.

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Andy_Ross said:
Put it this way, would you drink in a pub where you thought everyone was a wanker and they kept interrupting your conversation to talk about something you weren’t interested in and to swear at you?
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Terrible analogy. Everyone curates their own feed. If you're seeing unpleasant ideas, it's because you want to.

The problem with Bluesky, and Twitter before it, is that people want to put their opinions out there, but only for a friendly audience.

This is why the libs of TikTok are so pissed off about LibsOfTikTok, for the crime of retweeting their public statements.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Put it this way, would you drink in a pub where you thought everyone was a wanker and they kept interrupting your conversation to talk about something you weren’t interested in and to swear at you?
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I'm thinking Bluesky is a one horse town but you can still see the lights of Vegas.
 
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