Prince Harry v Mirror Group Newspapers

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Harry's been giving evidence today in his case against MGN. He believes that they hacked his phone to get stories on him, they are saying that they got their stories through other (legal) means. Judging by today's update on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65818773

it doesn't sound like it's going spectacularly well for Harry. But it's a "preponderance of evidence" case, rather than a "beyond all reasonable doubt" and personally I'd believe the Mirror hacked phones on a preponderance of evidence without actually hearing any evidence, so who knows.

I believe we have one or two royal experts here, so maybe someone can tell me which way this is going to go.
 
Matthew Best said:
Harry's been giving evidence today in his case against MGN. He believes that they hacked his phone to get stories on him, they are saying that they got their stories through other (legal) means. Judging by today's update on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65818773

it doesn't sound like it's going spectacularly well for Harry. But it's a "preponderance of evidence" case, rather than a "beyond all reasonable doubt" and personally I'd believe the Mirror hacked phones on a preponderance of evidence without actually hearing any evidence, so who knows.

I believe we have one or two royal experts here, so maybe someone can tell me which way this is going to go.
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I have never had much interest in the Royal Family or followed them, then Diana died and I hurt for her.
Now I feel horrible for Harry living in a universal fish-eye with no secrets or privacy allowed. He was always an introvert. Being one myself, I understand that there is no worst punishment than not being allowed to be one when needed.
 
Matthew Best said:
Harry's been giving evidence today in his case against MGN. He believes that they hacked his phone to get stories on him, they are saying that they got their stories through other (legal) means. Judging by today's update on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65818773

it doesn't sound like it's going spectacularly well for Harry. But it's a "preponderance of evidence" case, rather than a "beyond all reasonable doubt" and personally I'd believe the Mirror hacked phones on a preponderance of evidence without actually hearing any evidence, so who knows.

I believe we have one or two royal experts here, so maybe someone can tell me which way this is going to go.
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I'm not a royal expert but I did just read this:


"MGN has previously admitted to phone hacking taking place to gather information for stories, but it says the practice did not occur in the cases being brought forward by Prince Harry."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-06/prince-harry-testifies-mirror-newspapers-group/102447728

That doesn't look good for the Mirror group.
 
I was surprised to read that Harry believes Diana's affair with the pool boy (or whoever he was I don't want to look up) didn't start until after Harry was born. I've always held the opinion that both of Diana's sons have Charles' beady little eyes. That trumped the red hair in my genealogical experience.

This corroborates it.
 
Matthew Best said:
Harry's been giving evidence today in his case against MGN. He believes that they hacked his phone to get stories on him, they are saying that they got their stories through other (legal) means. Judging by today's update on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65818773

it doesn't sound like it's going spectacularly well for Harry. But it's a "preponderance of evidence" case, rather than a "beyond all reasonable doubt" and personally I'd believe the Mirror hacked phones on a preponderance of evidence without actually hearing any evidence, so who knows.
I believe we have one or two royal experts here, so maybe someone can tell me which way this is going to go.
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Well we have had all the evidence to have much more than a preponderance of evidence, after all they admitted they did.

Did they use it for any particular story about the spare? That's where I am willing to admit I believe the Mirror hacked his phones without actually hearing any evidence, why would he have been special case. :)
 
The reports on the Beeb last night were of the "long on allegation, short on hard facts and evidence" variety. Likely that he was on the end of some dodginess, but unlikely he can show that definitively or to the standard required in court.

It's one of those cases I want both of them to lose. And the British public who lap up these stories about "celebrities" and their private lives...
 
Matthew Best said:
Harry's been giving evidence today in his case against MGN. He believes that they hacked his phone to get stories on him, they are saying that they got their stories through other (legal) means. Judging by today's update on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65818773

it doesn't sound like it's going spectacularly well for Harry. But it's a "preponderance of evidence" case, rather than a "beyond all reasonable doubt" and personally I'd believe the Mirror hacked phones on a preponderance of evidence without actually hearing any evidence, so who knows.

I believe we have one or two royal experts here, so maybe someone can tell me which way this is going to go.
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Do you mean 'Balance of probability'? Seems Harry's argument is they probably did use illegal means and Piers Morgan is a ****. Neither should trouble the judge too much.
 
Puppycow said:
Since Harry is famous in the UK, do you think his approval ratings will have any bearing on the outcome?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Prince_Harry_Duke_of_Sussex

Apparently he is not very popular with the British public. Or at least those who bother to answer pollsters.
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He is not popular with the royalists who see his brother as the establishment and him as a threat.

The press hate Harry as he is illegitimate, ginger and he married a black foreigner. Meanwhile his cheating brother is given a pass because his wife is pretty.

Republicans like Harry as he has undoubtedly weakened the status of the monarchy.

I think most people think it is complex. They have sympathy given his ****** up parents and the undoubted by press hounding but he hasn't always made the best choices.
 
Lothian said:
Possibly but 'balance of probability' is the technical term regularly used.
Similar to how some people say James Hewitt sired Harry but most people say he is his father.
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In either case that does not make The Duke of Sussex illegitimate. He was not born outside of marriage.
 
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