Philippines: This Will End Well


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Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has canceled the purchase of over 26,000 US rifles for the national police force after reports Washington would be halting the sale over concerns of human rights violations.

You're right, it's so funny! The man responsible for massive human rights violations and death throwing a tantrum when it looks like he won't get his guns while saying 'they didn't really want them anyway'! It's textbook sour-grapes. Along with a ton of death. So funny! /not funny

I'm pretty far from an expert on the subject, but I was of the impression that the Philippines had some good domestic gun manufacturers (both legitimate and otherwise). Can they not supply something adequate on their own? Duterte mentions "many homemade guns". Any of the forum gun guys want to weigh in?

The only thing that comes to mind are the 1911 that are ok made by Armscor (spelling?). If I remember correctly they also make some cheap .22 versions of the AR-15 and AK-47 rifles.

EDIT: Armscor
 
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http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016...ial-Libingan-ng-mga-Bayani-Supreme-Court.html

Voting 9-5, Supreme Court spokesperson Ted Te said the high court dismissed all the petitions challenging the proposed burial of the former strongman Marcos at the Heroes' Cemetery.

There was no grave abuse of discretion on the part of President Rodrigo Duterte in ordering the burial of Marcos at LNMB (Libingan ng Mga Bayani, "Heroes' cemetery") because it was done in the exercise of his mandate. There is also no law that prohibits the burial of Marcos' remains at the LNMB

So, there it is.

Perhaps, the biggest Irony in all of this is that the Anti American president draws a lot of support from the followers and family of the former dictator, who was backed by the US government. Marcos was, after all, the President during the Vietnam War. The Philippines was used as a staging area for that very same war.

Here's what good old Henry Kissinger has to say about President Duterte's hero

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v20/d260

Henry Kissinger said:
At least in the short term, martial law should pose no direct serious problems for U.S. security and economic relations with the Philippines. In fact, the climate for individual business operations might even be improved.

As to our position, I believe we should refrain from comment on Marcos' action, regarding it as a Philippine matter.4 This stance may well be interpreted as tacit U.S. support for Marcos' move, and result in criticism of us, particularly if Marcos does not make good use of his increased authority and the situation deteriorates. On the other hand, Marcos probably will appreciate such a stance on our part, and this should result in his continued cooperation in our maintaining effective access to our bases in the Philippines and his assistance in resolving U.S. private investment problems resulting from last month's Quasha [Page 558]decision. As you will recall, we are reviewing our Philippine policy in NSSM 155,5 and expect to forward policy options to you in the near future.

It almost makes you want to laugh, except for the fact that this is a huge slap in the face to the former dictator's victims. This is pretty much the local equivalent of Holocaust Deniers winning.

I have no love for Henry Kissinger, but if the US had followed his approach re: Duterte, the situation would have probably been different.
 
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You're right, it's so funny! The man responsible for massive human rights violations and death throwing a tantrum when it looks like he won't get his guns while saying 'they didn't really want them anyway'! It's textbook sour-grapes. Along with a ton of death. So funny! /not funny

Well, the main opponent of the deal on the American side was one Senator Ben Cardin. This man 1) opposed the Iran Nuclear deal and 2)Totally supports weapons' sales to Saudi Arabia, so I really don't care what he thinks.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/837651/lacson-sotto-shrug-off-reported-halt-of-us-ph-arms-deal

Sen. Panfilo Lacson said the Philippines could look to manufacturers in other countries to procure firearms, as he urged the defense department to develop the Philippines’ capability to manufacture weapons.
“Since it’s a planned sale of assault rifles by the US to the Philippines, we do not stand to lose anything except one less gun store to choose from. There are tens of other countries that manufacture better and probably cheaper assault rifles than the US,” Lacson said in a statement.

A Reuters report said the US State Department was keen to stop the sale of up to 27,000 assault rifles to the Philippines after US Sen. Ben Cardin, a member of the Senate foreign relations committee, expressed his intent to oppose the sale over reported human rights violations since President Rodrigo Duterte took over.

Of course, Senator Lacson is right. It's just business after all. If the US doesn't want to sell weapons to the Philippines, we can just get the stuff from elsewhere.
 
Filipinos have different views about Pres. Duterte. But me as one, I really don't comment about it especially if I lack the knowledge about the issues. The only thing, I could do is to pray for our people to contribute peace and growth rather than to indulge in war and bad accusations.
 
Of course, Senator Lacson is right. It's just business after all. If the US doesn't want to sell weapons to the Philippines, we can just get the stuff from elsewhere.
Yep. Plenty of good firearms available from Belgium, Russia, South Africa, Czech Republic ... it's a buyer's market. :thumbsup:
 
Senator Leila de Lima, former Secretary of Justice under the government of Benigno Aquino III and one of the main opponents to president Duterte has been arrested and jailed under alleged charges of drugs trafficking : http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/02/24/leila-de-lima-arrested-over-drug-charges.html
I don't think Benny was as good a leader as his mom. How did local opinion on him assess his merits, and demerits?

As to one more unlucky one getting caught in the war on drugs, heh, we've been dealing with that here for over 40 years. It's a thing. Let's see how well the Philippine system handles that.
 
Well, we can see where he and Donnie Tee have the same jokester personality. All those funny little jokes that Trump makes about throwing the woman with the crying baby out, paying for the lawyers if his followers beat up some protesters, getting the Rooskis to hack into computers....

Duterte, made a real thigh-slapper, this week, telling his troops enforcing martial law in Mindanao that up to three rapes they get a pass, but over that amount he'll see that they're charged.

Yeah, he's a pig.
 
Duterte, made a real thigh-slapper, this week, telling his troops enforcing martial law in Mindanao that up to three rapes they get a pass, but over that amount he'll see that they're charged.
Does the Army support him? If so, how does that speak to his mid to long term prospects?
 
Does the Army support him?

Given a national approval rating in the high 70% range, and his strongly pro-army and cops attitude - especially immunity from prosecution - I think assuming he's pretty popular inside the armed forces is safe.

If so, how does that speak to his mid to long term prospects?

Better than Mad Vlad's, I reckon. Vlad has a little constitutional problem on the horizon; Duterte has at least the next decade to play with by my count.

If he went full Mugabe I would not be at all surprised.
 
Just out, Vltcheck's written report from Marawi on the military:

Andre Vltcheck said:
[...] My contacts in the capital informed me via text messages that I had been “red-flagged,” clearly by the pro-US faction in the Philippine military. So before my presence was finally cleared from Manila, I was detained and held in a provisional military base in the city of Saguiaran. Here I was “softly” interrogated by military intelligence. A few steps away, a howitzer was firing artillery toward ISIS positions in Marawi, some 10 kilometers distant.

“So you believe the United States is responsible for spreading terrorism all over the world,” I was asked late at night by one of the officers, point blank. It was clear that someone ‘behind the scenes’ was busy studying my published work.

The Western establishment media and various servile NGOs (including those which are “defending human rights” in several rebellious and independent-minded countries) consistently demonize President Duterte, an anti-imperialist, progressive leader who enjoys a 75 percent approval rating. It is no secret there are two distinct fractions inside the military – one supports the president and his drive for independence from the West, and another, which is trained and often corrupted by Washington and other Western capitals.

The pro-Western fraction wanted me out, detained, perhaps even disappeared. The other one that stands by its president wanted me to see the truth, to be allowed into Marawi. [...]
 
Duterte admits to being a serial murderer:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-38311655

When he's done being President, he has a great career lined up writing sitcoms for US TV.
Well, those statements should be interesting when read by the prosecutors at his trial.


A plane carrying former Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte has arrived in the Netherlands where he is to face charges of crimes against humanity at the International Criminal Court (ICC) over his deadly "war on drugs".

Duterte was arrested at Manila airport on Tuesday and within hours was on a chartered jet which flew via Dubai to The Hague, where the ICC sits.
 
It's kind of funny and ironic that Marcos is the one who sent Duterte away.

There's a few quotes in this nearly decade-old thread that are funny in hindsight.

The Marcos years are over two decades behind us.

TA: raise your game, bro. Pres Aquino, she, did a lot to move the PI in a new direction. Flogging Imelda and Ferdinand is so 90's. Check calendar.

A bit like two rival mafia bosses who decided to cooperate for a time because in the short term it made sense. In the long term, one decided that letting the other hang around wasn't a good idea. Things would be easier if he disappeared. I don't believe that Marcos had him extradited for noble reasons, but to get rid of a political rival. Nevertheless, he did it. His motive is sort of irrelevant. I don't think it can easily be undone now that Duterte is physically in custody of the ICC.


This too probably seemed like a funny idea at the time when he was the president and had lots of supporters. Now that he is in custody in The Hague and charged with crimes against humanity, maybe it doesn't read too well to compare yourself with Hitler.
 

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