NATO Eating It's Own

[dann]

... - Trump is on very recent record as favoring military action for the benefit of the USA against other independent countries - Denmark (Greenland) and Panama. ...

Recent developments in the Greenland thread.

 

[arthwollipot]

Yea when america does it, it isn't and invasion but liberation. We are going to Liberate Greenland for example.

Be nice to America, or they'll bring democracy to your country.

 

[gabeygoat]

How does a Trump supporter actually determine when he is lying, and when he is being truthful?

MAGA likes Trump because he says what he means, but don't worry, he didn't mean what he said.

 

[Segnosaur]

Where along the border do you think the invasion force will focus its initial offensive? Do you think they'll go straight for the capital, or try to find the wartime seat of government wherever in Canadia it is established? Or do you think they'll try to secure the oil sands and oil infrastructure first?

Will the Canadian air force give a good account of themselves, or will they never even get off the ground? Do you think either side will have time to get into the drone warfare game, before it's all over?

I think Canada has a dedicated, competent military. But America spends so much on its defense, and have so much newer (and often better) equipment, that the US would probably have little or no problem taking out Canada's armed forces quickly. (Our main fighter jets are CF-18s, which are variants of the original F18s and are over 3 decades old; they aren't even the newer 'Superhornets') If it were actual generals involved in the planning, I doubt they would bother with the oil fields (I don't think they would provide any tactical advantage.). Probably take out the air bases in Cold Lake and Bagotville first (since our jet planes would be key in putting up any real defense.)

I'm more interested in how the US military would respond if Trump, in his increasingly erratic state and dementia-riddled brain, decides to order an invasion of Canada or some other friendly nation. I know that members of the military are supposed to ignore orders that are illegal, and its possible that some of the military leadership will recognize that invasion of Canada/Greenland (without there being a potential threat) might just be an illegal order.

 

[Segnosaur]

Trump is random and unpredictable in some ways, but I think it's largely a strategy, not senility.

We have seen Trump make some pretty bone-headed decisions in his first term (abandoning the Kurds, killing an Iranian general, etc.) If he were thinking 'strategically' he would not done either of those.

I would be shocked to see him invade an ally. Hell, I would be surprised to see him invade an enemy. He has been fairly consistent in not liking US troops deploying to war zones.

Except of course when he supported sending forces into both Iraq and Libya. So... not really consistent.

Granted he hasn't ordered any 'new' troop deployments in his first term, but I think that has more to do with the general unpopularity of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and Trump trying to avoid something that will harm his popularity further. It has nothing to do with any sort of desire to "avoid war".