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[Merged] Musk buys Twitter!/ Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold....

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trustbutverify said:
Tesla Stock Marches Higher Then Reverses As Musk Says 'No One Wants The Job'
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Oppenheimer downgraded them.... honestly even without Musk screwing them up, I can't see TSLA ever justifying their market cap. For that to happen A) BEV's need to be the dominate form of passenger vehicles and B) Tesla needs like a quarter of the worlds vehicle sales. A will probably happen in 20 or 3 years, part B.... no, everyone else is catching up to them.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
57% “Yes” seems to be the final result with 17,502,391 votes cast.

Voice of God and all that.

Speculation is that while Musk was attending the World Cup, Arab backers of the Twitter purchase strongly encouraged him to step down and the “poll” was just a face saving way for him to do so.

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As a Tesla owner and shareholder, I hope this has a positive effect on Tesla’s prospects and share price. Just the perception of him being less distracted may help, whether he has much say in day-to-day operations or not.
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He sure is a snappy dresser.
 
plague311 said:
If he was ready to do it and that was his intention then why have the ******* poll at all?
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It generates attention. Why does it need any more explanation than that?

angrysoba said:
In that scenario, what would he have done if he had won?

Told the replacement that he wasn’t needed after all and go back to personally moderating the entire site?
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Oh, I suspect he knew which way the poll would go. It wasn't hard to figure out. But had the unlikely happened, then the person replacing him could still effectively replace him, just not in name, until some time had passed.
 
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lobosrul5 said:
Oppenheimer downgraded them.... honestly even without Musk screwing them up, I can't see TSLA ever justifying their market cap. For that to happen A) BEV's need to be the dominate form of passenger vehicles and B) Tesla needs like a quarter of the worlds vehicle sales. A will probably happen in 20 or 3 years, part B.... no, everyone else is catching up to them.
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I believe it's the prospect of Musk being able to vacuum up enough real-world data for his AI to achieve level 5 autonomous driving first, and then to parlay that massive advantage into truly autonomous systems and robotics that has driven the cap into orbit. I'm not guaranteeing that will happen, of course. But I believe that's the bet.
 
Ziggurat said:
Oh, I suspect he knew which way the poll would go. It wasn't hard to figure out. But had the unlikely happened, then the person replacing him could still effectively replace him, just not in name, until some time had passed.
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Why assume that? This is from the 5D chess school of thought.
 

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He has now posted that he will restrict future polls to subscribers...
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A real man of the people.

And he's going to ban any "deep state bot" account that voted against him. Because he can tell which ones those are.
 
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trustbutverify said:
A real man of the people.

And he's going to ban any "deep state bot" account that voted against him. Because he can tell which ones those are.
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Not sure if he is actually going to ban them. But again, Kim Dotcom's assumption is of the "masterful gambit, sir" toadying view that Musk set up the poll to weed out his enemies.

Apparently it wouldn't bother the Musk fanbois if true.

But also, it is pretty clear what type of weirdos that Musk reads and responds to. People such as Kim Dotcom, The Quartering, Robert F Kennedy Jr.... various other right-wing/conspiratorial trolls.
 
lobosrul5 said:
I'm sure he'll claim he didn't know who she was... but dude... uhhh wtf...

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/zpz33b/putins_propagandist_nailya_askerzade_takes_a/
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To be fair to Elon Musk, and I am always fair, I saw the video of this picture being taken and he really did not seem to know who she was. She just ran up to him and asked him for a selfie. He was wandering around looking a bit dazed and obliged, then looked confused after she took the picture and walked off.

lobosrul5 said:
ETA: and...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604628761395138561?cxt=HHwWgsCo9erW5MQsAAAA

No one wants the job who can actually keep Twitter alive. There is no successor.

Lol, ohhh no one out there at all, at any price... really? Sounds like he's making excuses to not honor his own poll results.
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But what happened to him knowing what the result would be?
 
It’s weird how Elon Musk appears to accept Kim Sitcom’s claim that bots had defeated Musk in that poll.

I thought Musk’s appointment was supposed to bring about the end of bots. Don’t tell me that he hasn’t managed to do r after all.

Oh wait, I meant “masterful gambit, sir!”
 
lobosrul5 said:
I'm sure he'll claim he didn't know who she was... but dude... uhhh wtf...

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/zpz33b/putins_propagandist_nailya_askerzade_takes_a/


ETA: and...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604628761395138561?cxt=HHwWgsCo9erW5MQsAAAA

No one wants the job who can actually keep Twitter alive. There is no successor.

Lol, ohhh no one out there at all, at any price... really? Sounds like he's making excuses to not honor his own poll results.
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His quote doesn't mean he can't find someone to run the company. It means he can't find someone to buy the company. This is unsurprising given that nobody would pay $20 billion, let alone $44 billion to make Muskrat whole.
 
angrysoba said:
Not sure if he is actually going to ban them. But again, Kim Dotcom's assumption is of the "masterful gambit, sir" toadying view that Musk set up the poll to weed out his enemies.

Apparently it wouldn't bother the Musk fanbois if true.

But also, it is pretty clear what type of weirdos that Musk reads and responds to. People such as Kim Dotcom, The Quartering, Robert F Kennedy Jr.... various other right-wing/conspiratorial trolls.
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Well, he does find the idea "interesting". And Musk has stated repeatedly his commitment to delete twitter "bots". Seems pretty clear to me where this thing is headed.
 
The way you can know for sure that Musk won't ban people who voted yes is that if he did, it would be absolutely hilarious, and nothing Elon does is funny.
 
I suspected that Elon was creating the poll knowing it would go against him, which gives him an excuse to walk away without looking like a quitter (will of the people and all that). Now, I'm not so sure.

Somebody on Twitter recommends that only paid users should be able to respond to polls, and Elon promises that Twitter will make that change. Seems like he's not happy with the result.
 
I Am The Scum said:
The way you can know for sure that Musk won't ban people who voted yes is that if he did, it would be absolutely hilarious, and nothing Elon does is funny.
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You didn't find Musk calling for a do over after losing his un-suspend poll, followed by losing the do over even worse, funny? I thought that was hilarious.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I suspected that Elon was creating the poll knowing it would go against him, which gives him an excuse to walk away without looking like a quitter (will of the people and all that). Now, I'm not so sure.

Somebody on Twitter recommends that only paid users should be able to respond to polls, and Elon promises that Twitter will make that change. Seems like he's not happy with the result.
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He didn't tweet for about 24 hours after the poll. But it was noticed that he "liked" some other posts such as a poll that another poster had made asking if Twitter was better since Elon Musk took over. The result was positive, so Musk liked it.

You know, that is the kind of very sad behaviour that makes me feel sorry for the guy.
 
angrysoba said:
He didn't tweet for about 24 hours after the poll. But it was noticed that he "liked" some other posts such as a poll that another poster had made asking if Twitter was better since Elon Musk took over. The result was positive, so Musk liked it.

You know, that is the kind of very sad behaviour that makes me feel sorry for the guy.
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Even more sad: It was a poll from November.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I suspected that Elon was creating the poll knowing it would go against him, which gives him an excuse to walk away without looking like a quitter (will of the people and all that). Now, I'm not so sure.

Somebody on Twitter recommends that only paid users should be able to respond to polls, and Elon promises that Twitter will make that change. Seems like he's not happy with the result.
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I don't know which is worse, walking away like a quitter or being voted out by millions. He's disturbed so I'm glad I can't predict his moves. He and Trump would make a great team.
 
Elron is such a privileged twit that has been surrounded by sycophants his entire adult life that of course he thinks that any election he loses must be rigged (now where have we heard that before?)
 
grunion said:
Elron is such a privileged twit that has been surrounded by sycophants his entire adult life that of course he thinks that any election he loses must be rigged (now where have we heard that before?)
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There us a reason why one of the first thngs they teach you in Business Managemnt courses is that surrounding yourself with Yes Men in probably the worst move you can make.
 
angrysoba said:
Not sure if he is actually going to ban them. But again, Kim Dotcom's assumption is of the "masterful gambit, sir" toadying view that Musk set up the poll to weed out his enemies.

Apparently it wouldn't bother the Musk fanbois if true.

But also, it is pretty clear what type of weirdos that Musk reads and responds to. People such as Kim Dotcom, The Quartering, Robert F Kennedy Jr.... various other right-wing/conspiratorial trolls.
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True, but there a LOT fewer Musk fanbois then there used to be.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I suspected that Elon was creating the poll knowing it would go against him, which gives him an excuse to walk away without looking like a quitter (will of the people and all that). Now, I'm not so sure.
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When I first suggested that Elon might be using it as an excuse to bow out in response to the expression of extreme doubt that Elon would abide by the results, I counted it as a plausible scenario. I withheld any judgement of probability, though, because Elon just not abiding by the results would be entirely plausible, too, and I'm not even going to pretend to care about Elon enough to want to try to get into his head and try to figure out probabilities. I think that it's a little early to conclude either way, though, for the moment. Not for long, though.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
57% “Yes” seems to be the final result with 17,502,391 votes cast.

Voice of God and all that.

Speculation is that while Musk was attending the World Cup, Arab backers of the Twitter purchase strongly encouraged him to step down and the “poll” was just a face saving way for him to do so.

[qimg]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52573481775_1915c4735a.jpg[/qimg]

As a Tesla owner and shareholder, I hope this has a positive effect on Tesla’s prospects and share price. Just the perception of him being less distracted may help, whether he has much say in day-to-day operations or not.
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The long term prospects for Tesla are probably better without Musk. The medium term prospects for its share price are probably dire without him.

I think the company is in trouble and having an idiot like Musk in charge won’t help. Unfortunately for you, the share price is still inflated thanks to the Elon effect and without him, it will return to a more sane level.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I suspected that Elon was creating the poll knowing it would go against him, which gives him an excuse to walk away without looking like a quitter (will of the people and all that). Now, I'm not so sure.

Somebody on Twitter recommends that only paid users should be able to respond to polls, and Elon promises that Twitter will make that change. Seems like he's not happy with the result.
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Nobody with a blue check mark has more skin in the game than Twitter’s creditors, investors and even the advertisers. I think Musk should be listening to them first.
 
I Am The Scum said:
The way you can know for sure that Musk won't ban people who voted yes is that if he did, it would be absolutely hilarious, and nothing Elon does is funny.
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If it weren’t for the fact that many people lost their jobs and many others are now working exploitative hours, I’d say everything Musk has done since he took over Twitter has been absolutely hilarious. Even the thing with the wash basin was funny, but not in the way he thinks.

If he banned all the yes voters, it would be the icing on the hilarity cake.
 
angrysoba said:
Not sure if he is actually going to ban them. But again, Kim Dotcom's assumption is of the "masterful gambit, sir" toadying view that Musk set up the poll to weed out his enemies.
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Kim Dotcom and "masterful gambit" can only go together in a sentence if there's a "wouldn't know one if it bit him on the arse" between them.

While the US case against Dotcom is a disgrace, the man gigantic tub of lard is a disgusting human being whose opinion is worth nothing. No surprise Musk liked it.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
57% “Yes” seems to be the final result with 17,502,391 votes cast.

Voice of God and all that.

Speculation is that while Musk was attending the World Cup, Arab backers of the Twitter purchase strongly encouraged him to step down and the “poll” was just a face saving way for him to do so.

[qimg]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52573481775_1915c4735a.jpg[/qimg]

As a Tesla owner and shareholder, I hope this has a positive effect on Tesla’s prospects and share price. Just the perception of him being less distracted may help, whether he has much say in day-to-day operations or not.
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Based on Musk's subsequent actions he was fully expecting his fanboys to give him a large "endorsement" to stay on by grovelling at the foot of his twitter feed.

Like all man-children Musk craves validation.
 
I actually really wish he wasn’t doing this.

I know a lot of people had him pegged as a charlatan from the start and they may have been right. But that said he almost certainly has brought value to Tesla and SpaceX just by wrangling the talented engineers and generating the necessary hype. I never bought into the idea that he was some kind of mercurial genius (unlike some on these forums), but I do think SpaceX and Tesla are good things.

Now Musk is apparently arguing with a Tesla investor on Twitter. As usual, Musk presumably thinks his comebacks are witty and clever, but they are stupid and so is his general approach to Twitter.

https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1605309991304327168?s=46&t=HFzPR1-PI9GzY_RCAEvymw
 
angrysoba said:
I actually really wish he wasn’t doing this.

I know a lot of people had him pegged as a charlatan from the start and they may have been right. But that said he almost certainly has brought value to Tesla and SpaceX just by wrangling the talented engineers and generating the necessary hype. I never bought into the idea that he was some kind of mercurial genius (unlike some on these forums), but I do think SpaceX and Tesla are good things.
Now Musk is apparently arguing with a Tesla investor on Twitter. As usual, Musk presumably thinks his comebacks are witty and clever, but they are stupid and so is his general approach to Twitter.

https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1605309991304327168?s=46&t=HFzPR1-PI9GzY_RCAEvymw
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Agreed... but are they better off with Musk at the helm, than a more normal and competent CEO? I don't think so.

ETA: wow... TSLA losses now surpass half a trillion in market cap for the year.
 
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angrysoba said:
I actually really wish he wasn’t doing this.

I know a lot of people had him pegged as a charlatan from the start and they may have been right. But that said he almost certainly has brought value to Tesla and SpaceX just by wrangling the talented engineers and generating the necessary hype. I never bought into the idea that he was some kind of mercurial genius (unlike some on these forums), but I do think SpaceX and Tesla are good things.

Now Musk is apparently arguing with a Tesla investor on Twitter. As usual, Musk presumably thinks his comebacks are witty and clever, but they are stupid and so is his general approach to Twitter.

https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1605309991304327168?s=46&t=HFzPR1-PI9GzY_RCAEvymw
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Tesla would have been a better thing (but not so massively overvalued) without Musk, and without SpaceX, NASA would have been much further along in the rocket programme.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Agreed... but are they better off with Musk at the helm, than a more normal and competent CEO? I don't think so.

ETA: wow... TSLA losses now surpass half a trillion in market cap for the year.
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Gulliver Foyle said:
Tesla would have been a better thing (but not so massively overvalued) without Musk, and without SpaceX, NASA would have been much further along in the rocket programme.
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You could be right and I don’t know. I think it is too easy to assume all this would have happened anyway or even better. I don’t think we can know that. But it is pretty clear he is doing a lot of harm to Tesla right now and pretty clear his purchase of Twitter is a pretty massive disaster.
 
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