Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Yah, sure thing bud.
Multiple stabbing murders in Sydney Australia
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Thermal
August Member
Thanks for posting.
Most US police departments are pathetic jokes. Poorly trained and managed.
These inquiries always take time here. They are thorough. Police here have been charged over poor shootings. We do not run away from them.
And, really, do you think Australians are ever going to say “I think we should run our police like the US”? Now that is truely hilarious.
Thermal
August Member
All the information was available on the day it happened. It was timestamp videoed literally from beginning to end. All eight minutes.
And you know what? The nitwits STILL don't have it right. Cauchi is caught on CCTV entering the mall with his pack at 3:20. The mighty NSW still thinks it was 3:31. It's on ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ CCTV video, mate.
You could learn a lot, if this one is any example. For instance, we can figure out that where ever you have thousands of people gathered in an urban environment, you station a couple kitted-out peacekeepers. It doesn't matter if it's some kind of quiet hippy town with not a lot of violence. Can you figure out why yet? Because bad elements can travel there and cause carnage. Can you believe it? It's true. Take some notes. Need a pencil?
And when you are making public statements delivering times down to the minute, find someone who knows how to tell time to handle that challenging job. It's super handy. There should be at least one in there somewhere, right?
Amply demonstrating that beside knowing nothing about Australian policing at all, you know next to nothing about Australia. It’s seriously laughable.
The rest of your post is not worth commenting on.
Thermal
August Member
As usual, you slink away from confronting facts. Ya boring.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
I tell you what - the guy in charge of Eckersley's had a lucky escape.
Thermal
August Member
If you want to be accurate here, it's a video of a computer animation of Cauchi superimposed on the video. They didn't even get the color of his shoes right. He looks like one of those block characters in Money for Nothing.Here's the video of Scott entering the building and running to catch up to Cauchi, showing that he was actively running at her with a knife when she shot him:
Video shows moment Bondi Junction stabber ran at police officer in Sydney shopping centre holding knife
CCTV footage released by court shows Amy Scott walking up an escalator, then starting to run when she sees Joel Cauchiwww.theguardian.com
And on Youtube:
Eta: here is what he really looked like:
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Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Yes, we can all see the video.
Thermal
August Member
FTFY.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
As I said, we can all see it.
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Thermal
August Member
So why didn't you tell the truth? Why didn't you say 'here's a recreation of what was claimed to happen', instead of saying 'here's a video showing Cauchi running up to Scott'?
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
You ask me why I didn't tell the truth, and then immediately after that quote me saying something I didn't say.
Your quote: "here's a video showing Cauchi running up to Scott".
My actual words: "Here's the video of Scott entering the building and running to catch up to Cauchi"
Can you see the difference? It is quite subtle, I admit. But still, it's a bit rich accusing someone else of not telling the truth.
Thermal
August Member
You're right, my mistake. The annoyance of a fake Cauchi superimposed got the better of me. My apologies.
Eta: in fairness, the rest of your sentence reads "showing that he was actively running at her with a knife when she shot him", which it doesn't. It shows a cartoon of that happening
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Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Well if you're going to start accusing people of lying every time you get annoyed about a computer graphic, we're in for a bumpy ride.
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Thermal
August Member
I just acknowledged it was my mistake and apologized, and you are still going to call me a liar? Gauche.
Eta: I see you edited your post after my reply to not call me a liar. Thanks. That's nice.
Eta: I see you edited your post after my reply to not call me a liar. Thanks. That's nice.
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Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
I tell you what though - that guy in charge of Eckersley's had a lucky escape!
(That's if he was a guy - could have been a computer simulation.)
(That's if he was a guy - could have been a computer simulation.)
Thermal
August Member
Is that the store to the right of the frame? If so, yeah, he probably didn't know what was going on and so naturally stood there as Cauchi ran up. Could've been sliced up bad, especially if he had been a woman.
/MatrixMode
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Looks like he thinks about stabbing the bloke for a second and then changes his mind when he realises he's being chased. Of course, this is just a recreation of what happened so who really knows?
Thermal
August Member
Is the whole end segment a computer generation, or just Cauchi? On mobile it all looks real except him, but small screen and not much detail.
What does it matter? It’s all a conspiracy to hide police incompetence to you.
Do you understand a single thing about judicial inquiries in Australia?
Thermal
August Member
They are not hiding anything. And you buy whatever they say without question, even when it is absurd.
I understand the inability to read timestamps for a year. The rest is details.
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So the answer is no.
Say I hopped into a US election thread and posted without an idea of how the system worked, how do you think I’d be treated? I know the answer.
Your hubris is a sight to behold.
Thermal
August Member
This is in a forum called " Social Issues", not "Trials and Errors", and no, I don't give the slightest ◊◊◊◊ about Australian judicial inquiries, not are they remotely the topic here. What interested me here is guys like you jumping up and down mindlessly parroting absurdities and making up out of thin air all kinds of kooky fabrications to explain the time problems, and insisting Scott's actions were exemplary when you had no ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ clue how she engaged. You were factually wrong at every step of the story, as we now see.
So the inquiry is already decided, for all intents and purposes. She will get more medals and praise. No one will ever question what actually happened, and we'll only see cartoon representations of what really happened. It's done and over with, as it was last year. See ya on the next one, unless you surprise me and say something interesting.
Oh right. You are the paragon of truth on this issue. Good to know.
Perhaps you might do a Fonzie. You have been wrong in many threads, so I doubt it.
Thermal
August Member
Got anything on topic you'd like to discuss, or you wanna keep going with your bratty schoolgirl postings?
Nothing to discuss. The truth is unfolding. Not that you are bothering to read the inquiry. Enjoy your, well, whatever.
When it goes split screen, the left hand side is computer generated from the point of view of the police officer, the right hand side is the actual CCTV footage.
?? The right hand side is CCTV footage, isn't it?
Thermal
August Member
That's what it looked like to me. But look at Cauchi. He's a computer generated image. Why put a cartoon on top of CCTV?
I thought maybe he was covered in blood and they thought him too graphic to show, but there are lots of pics of him after the stabbings and he doesn't appear bloodstained.
The right video is much more realistic, with reflected lights on the floor and all. The left looks like a more classic virtual simulation.
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Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Of course it is. Nobody could possibly think it’s a computer simulation, could they?
Thermal
August Member
Cauchi is.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Not on the right side video, which is what we are discussing.
Thermal
August Member
Yes, he is. Which is what we are discussing. He's not even close to realistic.
Just stop the video where he runs up (before they turn green and orange). She looks real, and the other bystanders do. He's not even close.
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arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
I don't get why you are so heavily invested in this argument.
Thermal
August Member
If you are talking to me, I'm not.
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
Then leave it be.
Thermal
August Member
I should ignore other posters? Seems rude, but whatever.
Or am.i not allowed to speak on this forum unless I am."heavily invrsted" in a topic?
See, you addressed a comment to... well, dead air. I presume you were going somewhere with that, or did you just want to announce things you don't get yet don't want clearer understanding of?
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
If I do a quick scroll through this thread, a majority of posts have this bright read avatar. I'd call that "heavily invested". This is your personal Amanda Knox.
Thermal
August Member
That's because a lot of other posters direct questions, comments, and challenges towards the bright red avatar, which I am not one to shy away from You'll note that I didn't initiate this necroing. Another poster trolled me to get it going again.
This thread had a lot of my interests rolled into it, though. But we never got past a few posters accepting the absurdities, and insisting they must be accepted as truth, even now when they have all turned out to be disproven. And I mean ALL.