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Mechanisms for Trump to disappear

How long will this dictator role work for Trump? Musk was smart to hop on and see how stupid and easy to manipulate Trump was. Just let him take credit for a few things. And it's not like there was another candidate so foolish as to think himself as a beleivable dictator. Trump was it, the only chance for decades.

But Trump, though still doing his reality show as president-dictator quite well, will soon get tired of it. As soon as he loses his first case in the Supreme Court, his interest will be mostly golfing, revenge on individuals and owning the libs. He will try his best in 2026 to push his candidates in congress races. But after that, I think he just gives up. Last thing he will do is pardon himself. The Supreme Court will wag its finger a bit, but will not block it.
 
Tero said:
How long will this dictator role work for Trump? Musk was smart to hop on and see how stupid and easy to manipulate Trump was. Just let him take credit for a few things. And it's not like there was another candidate so foolish as to think himself as a beleivable dictator. Trump was it, the only chance for decades.

But Trump, though still doing his reality show as president-dictator quite well, will soon get tired of it. As soon as he loses his first case in the Supreme Court, his interest will be mostly golfing, revenge on individuals and owning the libs. He will try his best in 2026 to push his candidates in congress races. But after that, I think he just gives up. Last thing he will do is pardon himself. The Supreme Court will wag its finger a bit, but will not block it.
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When he announced he was running in 2016 'he couldn't win'
When he did win 'well he can't do that much damage'
When he lost in 2020 'the Republican Party will turn on him now'
And still people are dealing out the copium.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
It is as simple as a group of billionaires sitting down with him and giving him the choice of retiring with a full pardon and the money he has grifted so far, or get destroyed in Public Opinion with constant dirty laundry aired in the biggest media outlets and endless legal suits .
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Not sure that would be successful, seeing as the highlighted is what's been going on pretty much since 2016.
 
theprestige said:
It would make a point if it were a true finding from the data.

Though, I suppose she wasn't really in the primaries long enough to be really memorable. I wonder how many voters know who they want in the primaries, but are undecided in the general election. Wouldn't the undecideds tend to sit out the primaries?
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Not necessarily. It's entirely possible for someone to have a strong preference for a dark horse candidate in the primaries... but no particular preference in the general because nobody meets their desires. There were at least a handful of Sanders supporters that viewed Clinton and Trump as equally bad options.
 
Donny can easily cope with legal threats by his usual method: ignoring them. They get dealt with by other people and he doesn't have to care.

What he cannot face well is physical defiance. He is a sniveling coward at heart. If an arresting posse with guns turned up to take him away under arrest.for treason, and there were no lawyers he could throw under that bus, then he would panic.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Donny can easily cope with legal threats by his usual method: ignoring them. They get dealt with by other people and he doesn't have to care.

What he cannot face well is physical defiance. He is a sniveling coward at heart. If an arresting posse with guns turned up to take him away under arrest.for treason, and there were no lawyers he could throw under that bus, then he would panic.
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No, I don't think he would. He'd march into prison in the full expectation that an angry mob would be on its way to break him out.
 
As soon as Putin is done rogering the ◊◊◊◊ out ot him, Donnie Diapers will disappear.
 
theprestige said:
I have no idea what you're talking about.

I have no idea how your "Krasnov" figures in this discussion. Is that your pet name for @Norman Alexander ?
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It's the codename that an ex-KGB agent claims that was given to the current President when he was recruited by the KBG as an asset in the 1980s.

There is of course no evidence to support this claim, but I think it's funny nonetheless.

This of course could have been easily glarked from the context of the conversation and a little awareness of recent events.
 
arthwollipot said:
It's the codename that an ex-KGB agent claims that was given to the current President when he was recruited by the KBG as an asset in the 1980s.

There is of course no evidence to support this claim, but I think it's funny nonetheless.

This of course could have been easily glarked from the context of the conversation and a little awareness of recent events.
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So it's not an actual mechanism?
 
arthwollipot said:
What the actual are you on about? I posted an opinion of what Krasnov would do if he were ever to be put in prison, specifically in response to Norman's post. Are you being belligerent just for the sake of it?
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What's described in Norman's post wouldn't put anyone in prison. That's not how prison works, in the US.

Is it how prison works in Australia? Vigilante gangs show up with their "criminals", and that's that?
 
Norman Alexander said:
That is still expecting "Other people" would save him.

He needs to face physical consequences where other people cannot save him.
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Yes, that's why I imagine that it's what he'd do. He can't conceive of a universe where he, the most important person in that universe, would not be saved from the evil ones who had the audacity to put him in prison in the first place - him! A literal superman! - by the legions of supporters who can clearly see that he is as great as he thinks he is rising up in righteous fury to correct this wrong that has been done to him. And when it doesn't happen, well, he'll just wait patiently for it until the day he dies.
 
Right now, the bandwagon is playing a fascist tune, and young males are looking for a future in a world that offers none (thanks largely to the Right's policies and actions since Reagan). It is going to require some form of explicit and shocking violence against White civilians to really turn matters against Trump to the point that anyone in the justice system would ever touch him, let alone stop fondling his balls. Trump isn't going anywhere. His cavalier attitude toward waning support among the MAGA base really does seem to fit his repeated comment that their votes will not be needed anymore; ie, the coup is proceeding apace.

That Grindr app collapse at GOP/CPAC conventions, damn, how revealing. Sixty percent of adult American white males are desperate for practice at serving their overlord, whatever it takes, whatever kind of 'job' is involved. Never knew "greatness" required such "service", go figure.

When the Russian nukes launch, we'll have to wait for everyone to panic run out of the men's room before mounting a response. Then again, the idea of mounting might send them into a frozen reverie...
 
Emily's Cat said:
Now we've reached the point of advocating for a race war? WTAF?
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A Trump apologist misinterprets what another poster said and a Trump supporting conspiracy theorist immediately follows up with a nonsensical meme. It's a perfectly executed dip ◊◊◊◊ alley-oop.
 
Garrison said:
When he announced he was running in 2016 'he couldn't win'
When he did win 'well he can't do that much damage'
When he lost in 2020 'the Republican Party will turn on him now'
And still people are dealing out the copium.
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So it is hopeless and we should bend over and take it.
Tou know Donnie just loves that kind of defeatism.
 
dudalb said:
So it is hopeless and we should bend over and take it.
Tou know Donnie just loves that kind of defeatism.
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It isn't defeatism, there is simply no workable mechanism for his removal. Trump has starkly shown how many of the so called checks and balances were just wishful thinking in the face of President who simply ignores them and a congress to supine to act or actively supportive of the President's actions. Getting rid of Trump won't fix anything, the impotence of the US political system in the face of a populist demagogue is out in the open now. The next person to try it might be competent as well as dictatorial, at which point everyone will be musing on how Trump wasn't so bad after all.
 
Garrison said:
It isn't defeatism, there is simply no workable mechanism for his removal. Trump has starkly shown how many of the so called checks and balances were just wishful thinking in the face of President who simply ignores them and a congress to supine to act or actively supportive of the President's actions. Getting rid of Trump won't fix anything, the impotence of the US political system in the face of a populist demagogue is out in the open now. The next person to try it might be competent as well as dictatorial, at which point everyone will be musing on how Trump wasn't so bad after all.
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I was here for the tail end of Franco. He had to die for the nightmare to end, and he was surrounded by a strongly pro-democracy world. Geopolitics saved his regime; the US needed bases. Anyway, know what it's like to be slapped around by goons in police uniform.

España, la reserva espiritual del occidente! Viva el Opus Dei!*
Spain is the spiritual reserve of the West! Long live the Opus Dei!

*Guess which Catholic order is the hot shot among GOP weirdos converting to Catholicism? Yup.

This will not be fun. Then again, hushed, furtive café conversations are kinda cool. Silver lining.
 
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dudalb said:
So it is hopeless and we should bend over and take it.
Tou know Donnie just loves that kind of defeatism.
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Yes! That's what Democrat strategist James Carville tells you to do! "Play possum!"
 
dann said:
That seems to be consensus nowadays when talking about Bush Jr., who started a war based on the WMD lie.
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And how people talk about Reagan. it's the Roman emperor principle, have a successor whose worse than you so you are remembered fondly. Of course a smarter version of Trump probably won't have a successor.
 
Garrison said:
It isn't defeatism, there is simply no workable mechanism for his removal. Trump has starkly shown how many of the so called checks and balances were just wishful thinking in the face of President who simply ignores them and a congress to supine to act or actively supportive of the President's actions. Getting rid of Trump won't fix anything, the impotence of the US political system in the face of a populist demagogue is out in the open now. The next person to try it might be competent as well as dictatorial, at which point everyone will be musing on how Trump wasn't so bad after all.
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Of course there is. It's been used before, successfully, too. I'm not advocating this, in any way, shape or form. But it does exist, and it is SCOTUS and constitutionally approved. Remember that Second Amendment "defending yourself against the government coming after you" justification...?

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Norman Alexander said:
Of course there is. It's been used before, successfully, too. I'm not advocating this, in any way, shape or form. But it does exist, and it is SCOTUS and constitutionally approved. Remember that Second Amendment "defending yourself against the government coming after you" justification...?
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Stealth kills, sabotage, creative destruction are better options. If weapons, cu-de-sacs with crossfire are golden.* The USA is uniquely exposed precisely owing to its own integrated economy. Break links, it breaks down.

In theory, and come the day, of course.
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* Ever notice how response teams bunch up and pile one tier of vehicles upon another? Food for thought.
 
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Trump really gets that Tesla. He pays for it in TrumpCoin. He can't drive, but he puts it in self drive mode. Tesla crashes head on with garbage truck.
 
Trump is babbling. A good bit worse than a year ago. Is he as senile as Reagan starting his second term? How would we tell?
 
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Tero said:
Trump is babbling. A good bit worse than a year ago. Is he as senile as Teagan starting his second term? How would we tell?
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Reagan at his worst was better than Trump at his best. Heck, Reagan as he is now would do a better job than Trump.
 
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