Not that difficult.
Fantasies about raping 4 year olds must be fine.
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I don't actually give a fat rat's arse what you do. If you have rape fantasies, that's fine. If you enjoy having them, then that's fine too, what ever rocks your boat... THAT IS YOUR RIGHT!
However, I am allowed to think that the idea of anyone having a rape fantasy is perverted. That is MY opinion, MY morality. I find the idea of rape fantasy disgusting. THAT IS MY RIGHT!
cullenz. This is what some people do when they can't debate honestly.
They cannot address your point without undermining their own position, so they will drag in other irrelevant topics to try confuse the issue and obfuscate their own failure to address your point.
It wasn't you or I who dragged rape fantasy, torture, murder or peanut butter and the other irrelevant stuff into this thread or your original thread.
Outraged at what?That is completely unlike anything anyone's said in this thread. If you spent less time being outraged at things you don't understand, you might actually learn something.
Outraged at what?
How???![]()
What an incredibly dishonest post. You have lost any respect I used to have for you as a poster.
And I lost all respect for you when it dawned on me that you think its acceptable for adult males having fantasies in which they rape pre-pubescent children.
The topic of rape fantasies wasn't brought up talking about women having them.
And there have been posters on here saying blokes having them are perfectly fine.
All good.
But you can't pick and chose.
cullenz. This is what some people do when they can't debate honestly.
They cannot address your point without undermining their own position, so they will drag in other irrelevant topics to try confuse the issue and obfuscate their own failure to address your point.
It wasn't you or I who dragged rape fantasy, torture, murder or peanut butter and the other irrelevant stuff into this thread or your original thread.
Jesus, cullenz. Who is acting out my fantasies with me if not a man with similar proclivities? You can't draw that kind of line in the sand. Well, I mean, obviously you can - but not if consistent internal logic matters to you.
I spoke primarily in defense of the female actor in these scenarios because a.) I have a bit of firsthand experience in that regard, and b.) the inflammatory statement by smartcooky which fueled me to post was made about the pertinent women, specifically. First the easily-disproven claim that we are a small fringe group, followed closely by the value judgment that we're ********** up and that's a BAD thing.
It IS perfectly fine for my "bloke" to imagine the same things I'm imagining while we act out our nasty ways all over our sinful little apartment. Why does gender make a difference?
I have no particular opinion on sex fantasies.
All I said is if you say illegal rape fantasies are fine then it ain't rocket science to conclude you also think illegal child rape fantasies are fine.
The gender difference with the children side of things is obvious
Irrelevant to rape fantasyAre there truly still people in this thread who think "blokes" like mine get off on the idea of actually raping a crying, screaming, terrified, resisting victim? Is it their understanding that I (and all the adventurous ladies like me, lining the pockets of that illiterate hack who wrote 50 Shades) get off on the notion of actually being raped by a hostile, violent overpowerer with whom I genuinely do not wish to lie?
If so, that might be your problem. There's a world of difference between "rape fantasies" and straight-up rape fetish. The latter is considered a pathology (like pedophilia!) because indulging the urge involves harming a NON-CONSENTING and/or NON-ADULT (and therefore, non-consenting by definition) victim. The other is a god damn fantasy acted out by two consenting freaks who are into the same thing and want to make each other happy. Who is ANYONE to say that's not okay?
It's not getting off on the fantasy of committing an actual crime, because both people want it to happen! They just like to add a little spice, via pirate characters, bodices, silky ropes, and whatever the hell else they please. Comparing any facet of such sexual indulgence to the unspeakable crime of child sexual molestation is *********** deranged.
I should add it was you lot that brought up rape fantasies on a pedo thread.
So we can only assume their linked
That was not what was brought upThere is no hope for you if you really can't see the difference. There is nothing illegal about two adults role-playing a rapey fantasy upon which they've agreed. Contrarily, there is NO scenario in which having sexual contact with an actual child could be safely or legally enacted.
And that last part of your post - WAT? Please elaborate. Are you saying that it's worse for a child of one gender to experience molestation than the other? Or do you mean that molestation by a male adult would be more traumatic for a child than same by a female adult?
Either way, generally speaking, you are way off. And sexist. Gross.
Irrelevant to rape fantasy
You are talking about fetish sex.There's this thing called analogies that can be helpful in debate when a participants' viewpoint has become too entrenched to allow even consideration of outside factors. Unfortunately, they often become the straw from which The Man is constructed when the entrenched person decides to throw an emotional hissy fit instead of considering honest points in a dispassionate way.
I can go all night. Keep flailing.
That was not what was brought up
No.The paragraph I wrote explaining the finer points of rape fantasy (and its stark differences from rape fetishism) is irrelevant to rape fantasy? Well, butter me up and call me a flapjack, I must have forgotten how the English language works.![]()
You are talking about fetish sex.
Not rape fantasy.
Can you guess the difference?
RAPE FANTASY AND RAPE FETISHISM ARE DIFFERENT. I HAVE SAID THAT ABOUT 100 TIMES NOW. SO HAVE OTHERS. YOU DO NOT READ, YOU JUST MAKE LITTLE COMMENTS YOU THINK ARE CLEVER.
Then why are you going on about fetishism?RAPE FANTASY AND RAPE FETISHISM ARE DIFFERENT. I HAVE SAID THAT ABOUT 100 TIMES NOW. SO HAVE OTHERS. YOU DO NOT READ, YOU JUST MAKE LITTLE COMMENTS YOU THINK ARE CLEVER.
When you lot brought up rape fantasy.
Then why are you going on about fetishism?
When you lot brought up rape fantasy.
Personally I didn't really care what you are into with your partner, but you seem obsessed with telling us.
Good for you
All I said is if you say illegal rape fantasies are fine then it ain't rocket science to conclude you also think illegal child rape fantasies are fine.
There is nothing illegal about two adults role-playing a rapey fantasy upon which they've agreed. [Contrarily, there is NO scenario in which having sexual contact with an actual child could be safely or legally enacted].
You cannot use the acceptability of rape fantasy as an analogy to justify acceptability of paedophilia fantasy!!!
Except as has been mentioned about 10 times adult urges can be satisfied with a willing partner.Once again you fail to see the analogy because, in your mind, fantasy begets reality, when in fact there is no evidence for this. That's why "pedophilia fantasy" doesn't make one more dangerous.
It's weird and certainly disturbing, but unless you have some evidence that none of us have seen before, it says nothing about the person's likelyhood of acting on it.
Except as has been mentioned about 10 times adult urges can be satisfied with a willing partner.
But one may or may not do because they have no outletAnd it has been mentionned just as many times that this is irrelevant, because one need not act on their urges.
But one may or may not do because they have no outlet
Obviously yes because I put it in a post a minute agoNever heard of masturbation?
Obviously yes because I put it in a post a minute ago
Because having a wank can get boringSo you have your outlet right there. Why did you say they didn't have one?
Because having a wank can get boring
The argument is and has been it isnt worth the risk for either the care provider or the pedo.So can shagging a willing woman. None of this is relevant to the questions. Nobody has been able to show that pedophiles are more at risk of acting on their urges. The only argument I've seen is one from "common sense", which any member of this forum should know is weak to say the least. Nobody has been able to show a causal link between violent fantasy and violent actions. In short, nothing to show that your fears are founded.
I'd say that, to a rationalist, this should be an indication that one has to change their minds about the topic.
To a rationalist, that is.
I said this waaay back in post 243...The argument is and has been it isnt worth the risk for either the care provider or the pedo.