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Kill & Bill: Let the Bodies Hit the Floor

I don't trust the NYPD to give us pictures of the cell or any of that. They repeatedly lie.
You said the cell Epstein was in made it impossible for him to have committed suicide. If you reject photos of that cell, how do you know what kind of cell it was? Also, you said he used rope. How do you know that? What is the source of this information?
 
He bent over so far he got Clinton impeached, and his hate for the Clintons seemed almost palpable. He was an attack dog that found lots of sleeze but not much on the way of political wrongdoing. This was still used to impeach.

And with that, I'm out. There doesn't seem to be much of a connection to the facts and evidence to comment on.

You must be kidding. Or ignorant of the facts.

Even Dick Morris, Clinton's right-hand man, would make comments like "Ken Starr couldn't find Adolf Hitler guilty of murder in front of an all-Jewish jury!" or something like that.

Starr was TRYING to get Clinton off the hook! He came up with the weakest sauce ever. This was still used to impeach.

That shows how messed up Clinton's actions were. Even when you water them down, they are still messed up enough to get you impeached!
 
It isn't a lie. Epstein is dead. That is evidence in and of itself!

He "hung himself" in a cell where that just isn't possible...
I didn't previously look at the photos Cosmic Yak linked to, but I have now. You say you looked at that link too. Yet after looking at the link, showing how Epstein hung himself (or if you prefer, was hanged on orders from one or both of the Clintons) you posted the above, insisting it was impossible to be hanged in that cell.

What should we make of that?
 
Quite the reverse. Threats are evidence in and of themselves.

If you had evidence of them. Certainly.

But here is your complaint:

You'd investigate a car tire slashing. The victim would say "I was porking a married woman! Her husband is crazy! He threatened me countless times! He's threatened others, too!" and you would say "Evidence?"

So if your tires were slashed, and you had received threats in the past, the cop is gonna want to see whatever evidence of those threats is. Text messages, letters, answering machine messages, they are going to want to see it before they move to question or arrest someone.

So the scenario goes like this:

You: My tires were slashed! It must be the guy whose wife I slept with years ago. He sent all kinds of threats.
Cop: OK, that's a lead. Do you have any evidence of these threats?
You: WHY DO YOU THINK I'M A CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST!? THE THREATS ARE EVIDENCE!



 
If the tyre slashing suspect had really threatened multiple people, they could corroberate that claim. That would be evidence.
 
Sigh. You are still mocking this.

This isn't something to joke about. On the contrary, this is absolutely TERRIFYING.

He raped a woman who was kind enough to work for him for FREE. A lowly volunteer who would collect $5 checks for him. He tricked her into allowing him to enter her hotel room. He raped her TWICE. He bit her lip so hard, he nearly bit it off. He ruined her life.

Then his wife threatened her. He sent the FBI and IRS after her.

When she was brave enough to come forward (or forced by the law to come forward), she was smeared as a right wing lunatic by the so-called left. Everyone assumed her story was a right wing conspiracy theory cause it seemed "too crazy to believe". They assumed she was one of the "Clinton crazies" and assumed Fox News was behind this, though it was actually NBC.

Ironically, this ordeal DID make her become a right winger and a Trump supporter, cause Trump was the only politician to take this seriously. Of course he was just trying to win the election against Hillary Clinton- but he gave her a voice.
Have you any evidence for that long stream of bovine excrement?
 
The idea that Starr wasn't on a fishing expedition is laughable. He started with Whitewater and ended up with a blowjob from an intern.

Starr just knew what was and what wasn't going to fly. He had years to do his investigation and went on multiple paths trying to find anything.

But in any case, the murders you allege , please.
Claiming that Starr was a friend to the victims of sexual abuse is a sick joke, given the years long campaign to hide instances of sexual abuse and rape committed by top Baylor U athletes when he was university president, and later president and chancellor.

Man was only ever interested in outcomes that most profited him.
 
Insofar as there is a thread topic, please endeavour to stick to it.
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Either way, I know the official story makes ZERO sense. There is no way to hang yourself in that type of prison.

It is supposed to make zero sense.

The government wasn't even hiding it. They wanted you to know it was the CIA that either killed him or kidnapped him.
Epstein committed suicide, likely because he knew what a living hell the rest of his life was going to be, being put in jail for years of raping children.

We can definitely ask questions of the prison guards and authorities as to why a known suicide risk wasn't better monitored, but to insinuate that Hilary Clinton had him murdered, despite the evidence to the contrary, is absurd to the point of insanity.
 
You said the cell Epstein was in made it impossible for him to have committed suicide. If you reject photos of that cell, how do you know what kind of cell it was? Also, you said he used rope. How do you know that? What is the source of this information?
She has also toyed with the idea that Epstein might still be alive and in hiding, so it's hard to say why anything involving the cell is relevant.

When you have such wildly disparate theories, anything goes.
 
@Thermal are these new or old names? What's the score now? I can't keep up.
Apologies. I was caught in several gallops of Gishes. They were all over the forum. It was quite terrifying.

The first, Danny boy, is already in the 5-0 score. The others were eclipsed by something shiny and were unexplored. They remain in either "untried" category, or the "long debunked and never really taken seriously" grouping. Which is rather large, at this point.

ETA: we could toss in Michael Hastings, I guess. Hastings was killed while speeding in his car in LA, hitting a tree, He had a history of manic episodes, and was described by his own friends as being in a highly agitated and paranoid state right before his death. No evidence connecting him to the Clintons in any way.

I forget who "the Sign guy" is already. He may have been trampled in the aforementioned Gish stampede. The other two mentioned are not dead, so off-topic.

Current score: Reality-6, PookieBear- 0.
 
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He committed suicide while writing a note saying "There was no foul play here!"

If you write that in a suicide note, people will think you "doth protest too much."
He probably wrote that to prevent people from thinking Trump or Trump allies did him in. After all he had been tossed from the White House for deceiving the VP and was very much on the outs. It was also probably to help prevent harassment of his family by conspiracy nutters.

His chosen method of suicide was a bag and helium tank. Its not something easily set up on an unwilling victim, so he had to have been drugged to incapacitation beforehand (which would have had to have been done in his hotel room). How would that work, exactly?
 
It is a requirement of conspiracy theories that the Evil Them are simultaneously fiendishly clever, able to control huge swathes of the world, hoodwink the populace, and devise elaborate secret plots, and yet clownishly incompetent, so much so that they failed to recognise someone they supposedly had under surveillance for years.
Not to mention that the people who are clever enough to murder apparently dozens of people are so bad at hiding it that their fiendish plots can be exposed by rando keyboard warriors on the internet. And yet, they never seem to face charges of murder, or conspiracy to murder, or solicitation of murder, despite all the so-called evidence that is soooo obvious that it's impossible to miss.

Obviously the conspiracy goes so deep that they've either paid off or blackmailed the prosecutors, making the prosecutors complicit in the conspiracy. They've paid off or blackmailed the witnesses, making the witnesses complicit in the conspiracy. Their actual political opponents - the Bushes, the Trumps - are by necessity actively complicit in the conspiracy to murder the Clintons' opponents and keep them from being brought to justice.

Does this make even the smallest amount of sense? I suggest to you that it does not.
 
Instead of actually drafting a reply, you respond with derision and rudeness.

Very mature.
On the contrary. Late night comedians like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart have been mocking and criticising presidents for decades, including the Clintons. Since the Clintons are inclined to murder apparently at the drop of a hat, why do they let the comedians survive?
 

On the contrary. Late night comedians like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart have been mocking and criticising presidents for decades, including the Clintons. Since the Clintons are inclined to murder apparently at the drop of a hat, why do they let the comedians survive?


You see the secret you don't know is that Colbert is a clone, every time the Clintons kill one off the next clone is activated like a monologuing Duncan Idaho. Currently they're on Stephen 396.

In 400,000 years Stephen Colbert will be revealed as the true Kwisat Shaderacht


Hold on, someone's at the door, if I don't come back IT WASN'T SUICIDE...
 
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That's because I kept getting a forum error while trying to post so I copied it exited, came back in and pasted it. The fact I didn't notice it had retained my original text however totally proves your point...
 
I've picked up a copy of Christopher Hitchens' "No One Left To Lie To" & I'm reading it now. So far no indication that The Hitch thought the Clintons were murdering political enemies, journalists or people with dirt on them...
 
I've picked up a copy of Christopher Hitchens' "No One Left To Lie To" & I'm reading it now. So far no indication that The Hitch thought the Clintons were murdering political enemies, journalists or people with dirt on them...
Of course not, what with Hillary hovering above him with that 9mm as he wrote it
 

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