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Images of new electric Jaguar "leaked"

GlennB

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Er, that thing is so low-slung it would struggle to get off a very nice driveway, let alone use typical roads.

I'm guessing it's just a publicity stunt and the actual car will be very different.
 
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The entire thing is pure fantasy-land. They don't have a car. All they have is some extremely unclever marketing images. And don't get me started on that advert.
 
So they've teased us with an ad showing their new customers will look like a delegation from alpha centauri in an old episode of Star Trek and now they have a cartoon car too. It's all going swimmingly.

I have some small hope they're pulling everyone's leg and the actual car will come as a relief. But then, I'm never going to spend £100,000 on a new car anyway so <shrug>.
 
So they've teased us with an ad showing their new customers will look like a delegation from alpha centauri in an old episode of Star Trek and now they have a cartoon car too. It's all going swimmingly.

I have some small hope they're pulling everyone's leg and the actual car will come as a relief. But then, I'm never going to spend £100,000 on a new car anyway so <shrug>.
But how much would you spend on an electrical cyborg jaguar, that you could ride as a steed? It could leap tremendously far, and climb up trees and buildings, and pounce on other vehicles and tear through them with its mighty jaws! I think I'd pay a hundred grand for that.
 
I still think, when I see the ancient Simpsons episode with the car designed by Homer, that it actually was pretty cool.
 
The Guardian

Er, that thing is so low-slung it would struggle to get off a very nice driveway, let alone use typical roads.

I'm guessing it's just a publicity stunt and the actual car will be very different.
It looks like a pink cybertruck. Did Grok design it?
 
It looks like a pink cybertruck. Did Grok design it?
Bentley designed it 20+ years ago. Jaguar just squared off the front to make a sort of cyberbrick.

I know concept cars are aesthetic expressions rather than practical vehicles but this oversize boulevard cruiser seems to have lost sight of even the idea of a car whose only purpose is to be seen in. It's a steel barricade with eye slits. Even people who want to be seen in it won't be seen.
 
I'm surprised they are even trying to continue the Jaguar brand given the dismal sales over the last ten years or so. Trying to appeal to ex-Jag owners (such as me) hasn't worked for them so they do need to find new people to buy their cars, but then isn't the legacy a hindrance?
 
I'm surprised they are even trying to continue the Jaguar brand given the dismal sales over the last ten years or so. Trying to appeal to ex-Jag owners (such as me) hasn't worked for them so they do need to find new people to buy their cars, but then isn't the legacy a hindrance?
A friend of mine had Jaguars for a few years; he loved what the cars were supposed to be, but was plagued with all sorts of ongoing problems. When he realised he was on first name terms with the person dealing with warranty issues, he decided to call it a day.
 
A friend of mine had Jaguars for a few years; he loved what the cars were supposed to be, but was plagued with all sorts of ongoing problems. When he realised he was on first name terms with the person dealing with warranty issues, he decided to call it a day.
Certainly that is part of the legacy the Jaguar brand carries, saying that my XKR only ever had the one problem that was fixed under warranty, otherwise it was a sublime beast, I miss it every day....
 
I have had a number of Jags over the years, three XJS, and two XJ Saloons. Their straight six XJ engine is one of the greatest of all time and the V12 is indestructible.
 
One thing we can already be sure about is that they're writing off existing owners who like them for the character of their engines. That's gone.
 
That went with the 6 and 12.
I had the sewing machine in my XJ-S, it was a fabulous engine. It could cruise at 100 all day (where legal) or alternatively get close to 30mpg at legal UK motorway speeds.

A good friend has an iPace and while it's nice to be a passenger in, it's too inefficient to be a contender for any future purchase.
 
One thing we can already be sure about is that they're writing off existing owners who like them for the character of their engines. That's gone.
Why? Can't an electric car engine have "character"? Serious question. But in any case that will be the same for all cars in the very near future.
 
Why? Can't an electric car engine have "character"? Serious question. But in any case that will be the same for all cars in the very near future.
I was responding to Andy's fond reminiscence of their straight 6 and V12. Jaguar can't lure any customers back with those. I suppose an electric drive can have whatever character you programme into the accelerator pedal but isn't it a bit like asking a nostalgic steam engine enthusiast whether diesel locomotives can't have character?
 
I cannot understand why all the latest EV's seem to be in a horrible boxy shape, it's almost as if it's some kind of a statement. Someone had a clip of a vintage Merc on X, which showed all of its elegant lines and curves. This is why I can't see the new Jaguar being a big success. People still have taste and want style over status.
 
So they've teased us with an ad showing their new customers will look like a delegation from alpha centauri in an old episode of Star Trek and now they have a cartoon car too. It's all going swimmingly.

I have some small hope they're pulling everyone's leg and the actual car will come as a relief. But then, I'm never going to spend £100,000 on a new car anyway so <shrug>.
Trust me, the mindworms wouldn't be seen dead in that thing.
 
I cannot understand why all the latest EV's seem to be in a horrible boxy shape, it's almost as if it's some kind of a statement. Someone had a clip of a vintage Merc on X, which showed all of its elegant lines and curves. This is why I can't see the new Jaguar being a big success. People still have taste and want style over status.

By the end of the decade this minimalist look will be so passé that new TVs will have gilded rococo frames, security cameras will come with gargoyle housings, and electric cars will look like Victorian coaches minus the horses.
 
I cannot understand why all the latest EV's seem to be in a horrible boxy shape, it's almost as if it's some kind of a statement. Someone had a clip of a vintage Merc on X, which showed all of its elegant lines and curves. This is why I can't see the new Jaguar being a big success. People still have taste and want style over status.
It's not just EVs. The boxy shape is actually to fit all the stuff needed for a gas engine.

The new Jag looks awesome, especially the pink one. I love it! This is what cars should look like in the 21st century.
 
This Jag will never need to fit a gas engine. A 1950s Jag XK fitted a gas engine. It was the antithesis of boxy.
 
That's what I don't understand. This horrible intimidating boxy shape that's emerging for the front of cars seems both unnecessary and aerodynamically dreadful. Plus plug-ugly. What on earth is the point?
 
This Jag will never need to fit a gas engine. A 1950s Jag XK fitted a gas engine. It was the antithesis of boxy.
Yeah the idea that they are boxy to fit in an ICE is just silly, even the worse of Jaguars from past times weren't boxy.

I'm not enamoured of the new concept car but its design language does have hints of past Jaguars, especially noticeable at the back end.
 
Yes, the back end looks like the previous XJ. But it also looks like the Bentley GT and probably a number of other big coupes from the early 2000s. When this concept is honed into something practical, it's just going to look like an ICE car.
 
Yes, the back end looks like the previous XJ. But it also looks like the Bentley GT and probably a number of other big coupes from the early 2000s. When this concept is honed into something practical, it's just going to look like an ICE car.
Yeah at the moment all the designs for the electric cars are very much "let's make it look like all the ICE cars so as not to frighten the horses". I can see the first car to be a paradigm change in design for cars being a mass market cheap and cheerful electric car that cuts out all the "legacy" design language to get the cost down. Probably will look like a box on wheels.
 
But on the other hand, beneath all the design fluff of ICE cars, there's also a lot of optimization to keep the air resistance down.
This can be as a result of wanting the maximum possible performance, or otherwise in order to bring the fuel costs down/extend range. (*)
Personally I'd certainly pass on an electric car if that one happens to have unnecessary 'build in head wind', just because it wants to go for the 'box on wheels' look.

(*) yes of course some cars have more air resistance optimization than others. But still, even the most bulky truck, somehow does not look like it was build from the shapes of LEGO blocks.
 
Yeah at the moment all the designs for the electric cars are very much "let's make it look like all the ICE cars so as not to frighten the horses". I can see the first car to be a paradigm change in design for cars being a mass market cheap and cheerful electric car that cuts out all the "legacy" design language to get the cost down. Probably will look like a box on wheels.

There are such cars available already.
 
My MG4 has a sloping-down nose shape, quite sleek, it was part of what attracted me to the car in the first place.
 
On aerodynamics, the concept car has no mirrors, which is a big gain. So presumably would use cameras and screens.

Someone pointed out to me that screens need you to switch focus to arm's length. Not a problem for the wealthy youngsters they hope to appeal to but awkward for their reading-glasses-using existing customers. The solution is to move the rear view down to the dash so bifocals will work. A good place for it anyway now it's freed from a mirror's obligation to use the top of the windscreen.

(Doesn't solve the front view problem, where it looks as if you can't see the road within about 30 ft ahead.)
 
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The Guardian

Er, that thing is so low-slung it would struggle to get off a very nice driveway, let alone use typical roads.

I'm guessing it's just a publicity stunt and the actual car will be very different.
Good to see a return for the quartic steering wheel.

It's a brave designer who borrows from the Austin Allegro :D
 
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