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You're wrong if you believe the mayor has the authority to engage in permit inspections. Its not his job.
Do you understand that if an ICE officer opens the gate to allow someone to enter his perimeter, he has licensed that person to be there?2024 New Jersey Revised Statutes :: Title 2C - The New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice :: Section 2C:18-3 - Unlicensed entry of structures; defiant trespasser; peering into dwelling places; defenses.
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Same straw man from you, same answer from me.
Do you understand that any person occupying private property for whatever reason who opens the door for whatever reason to allow entry has licensed that person to be there?
Thank you for finally acknowledging that he was not engaging in a permit inspection.
NOT if the visitor lied about his identity or agenda.
I've done no such thing. I merely continue to object to your ongoing misrepresentation of my claim.
Asked and answered.
So you're saying he WAS engaging in a permit inspection??
Why would you repeatedly assert the mayor's authority to engage in a permit inspection if you now say he was not engaging in a permit inspection?
I have stated my claim. Address what I actually claimed instead of trying to cobble up something and cram it into my mouth.
I am addressing your claims.
No, you are not. You are inventing other criteria that you believe must be satisfied before the mayor can exercise his authority as the chief executive officer of the city and you have imagined that I must include them. You have repeatedly characterized my argument as one that I expressly repudiated.
See above.
No, you cherry-picked a few of my posts, put your spin on them, and ignored everything else. I'm finished discussing this topic with you. You are not serious.
That is simply false.
You clearly still don't get the "due process" thing.
He clearly has the right to due process. When did I suggest otherwise? Did I suggest he should not get a trial or a lawyer?
Right? We still don't know if the mayor showed the gate keeper a photo of the gate keeper's family tied up in a basement with a gun to their head or not. . .
When you said that the fact that he was arrested for trespassing means that he was trespassing. It was in the post I quoted.
I like watching little twerps get their ass kicked.
The mayor is guilty of trespassing based on speculative evidence that Hercules pulled from between the cheeks.
Mmm. By the look of things, this is about as absurd as demanding that office workers wear hard hats, gloves, and safety glasses any time that they work with paper documents, which seems to be in line with what your argument against JayUtah involves. Unless I'm missing something, the permit inspection in question would normally be, in short, inspecting that they have the necessary permit and that the permits are valid. That's well within the authority of a relevant city official, which the mayor certainly would be. That's different than doing the inspection that would grant the permit in the first place, which is what you seem to be trying to argue that the mayor cannot possibly be qualified to do.
So you're saying there is no probable cause?
That is what Hercules56 is trying to say was the mayor's plan here. His arguments rather seem to lack depth, though. It would be surprising if the mayor didn't use the event to his advantage, of course.
Are you speaking here from authority, as in municipal experience, or are you guessing? I suspect the latter. I rather suspect that if the mayor thinks the inspectors are not doing their job sufficiently he might very well have the authority to inspect their work.
So you're saying that if there was NOT clear probable cause, he would have pleaded GUILTY? If I read this correctly, it's the stupidest ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ thing you've ever posted! And that's saying a lot!
Mayors do not do that, especially in big cities like Newark. They do not suddenly take over the work that has been regularly delegated to lower level employees. Unless you think President Biden or Obama or Bush sometimes did the work of regular old workers at one of their many executive agencies. Its simply not done.
I think Hercules' claim is thay the mayor was trespassing because he wasn't a member of Trampy's Dirlewanger Gang (otherwise known as ICE). Otherwise, he's simply acting in bad faith in this thread.
