Shadowdweller
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Just curious what you all think? Beyond the air/rocket strikes, unless you think that's all? I suspect it's going to be brutal. And indiscriminate.
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Just curious what you all think? Beyond the air/rocket strikes, unless you think that's all? I suspect it's going to be brutal. And indiscriminate.
As the Hamas terror attack was, and continues to be, exceedingly brutal (what with the targeted attacks, abuse and killing of civilians), I agree we can expect Israel's response to be very violent, too.
But NOT indiscriminate.
Rather, it will be very discriminate.
Israel will target Hamas militants, Hamas leadership, those who make weapons for Hamas, those who shelter Hamas leadership.
Israel will NOT target civilians
Israel will NOT kidnap cilvilians
Israel will NOT torture or rape civilians
Israel will NOT rob civilians
Israel will NOT murder captured civilians nor dance on their mutilated bodies.
Since that behaviour on Hamas' part is aptly called "brutal", I think it is fair to predict that Israel's response, while violent, will not be brutal.
Last I read was Hamas sources claiming 313. A curiously precise number.Gaza is one of the more densely populated areas on earth. ANY military action taken there is going to result in mass civilian casualties regardless of whether one believes it to be justified or not; or what it's in response to. Nature of the beast. Hundreds are ALREADY reported dead from Israeli retaliatory strikes to the best of my personal knowledge.
As Hamas is an organized armed force that illegally attacked another country, the attacked country is entirely in their right to go after said armed force with a view to beating that armed force (killing its armed fighers and its leadership).And I don't think they've even really gotten started. No, this doesn't make Hamas nice people by comparison; nor does it excuse or justify the kidnappings and attacks against Israel. I'm not personally interested in debating or comparing the morality of this, just curious about what people think is going to happen.
They did request that Gazans who would rather not be a part of this conflict flee their homes and find someplace to hide away for awhile (at their many locations on the strip where Hamas is not around.) Kind of a giveaway about what's going to happen. Just go to your dad's house on the coast, right?
Neither do I.Not seeing a good outcome out of this.
Israel routinely employs a practice called "knocking on the roof", whereby they warn people inside a target (say, a highrise building) via radio, leaflets, even drone-assisted PA, telling them to flee; then drop a couple of grenades on the roof to signal even to those who didn't get the warning that this is no longer a safe space; and only then, when enough time has passed for evacuation, will they finally deliver the strike that destroys the target.
This works for buildings that contain a target that's a thing. A communiations installation; an ammo storage; a weapons factory; a signal intelligence facility.Probably not employed when the target is Hamas officers.
Yes, this is all rather cynical in a place as cramped and overpopulated as the Gaza. Where anyone following Israel's advice could become a target of Hamas wrath.
Neither do I.
Well, the IDF has killed a journalist with no mitigating circumstances whatsoever.
Claimed with no supporting context or sources whatsoever.
Just curious what you all think? Beyond the air/rocket strikes, unless you think that's all? I suspect it's going to be brutal. And indiscriminate.
So do you think the IDF sends ground forces in, tries to free hostages, kills or captures a bunch of Hamas militants and/or destroys affiliated infrastructure and then... pulls out of Gaza again? Or...?Given the hostage situation they are going to send in ground troops, which unfortunately is probably exactly what Hamas is expecting. Remember Hamas doesn't give a damn about how many Palestinian civilians die and when this does end, they will simply retreat into the shadows and plan for the next round.
Just curious what you all think? Beyond the air/rocket strikes, unless you think that's all? I suspect it's going to be brutal. And indiscriminate.
You can't avoid civilian victims in Gaza. They will be warned, and they won't be the primary target. But this time, that's it.
I also want to point out the cowardice of comments of political leaders about this conflict, these unrightous are of no interest for the future of your country.
Muhammad Al-Deif, the Hamas military commander, called for a general uprising against Israel in a recorded message on Saturday.
“If you have a gun, get it out. This is the time to use it – get out with trucks, cars, axes. Today the best and most honorable history starts.”
As the Hamas terror attack was, and continues to be, exceedingly brutal (what with the targeted attacks, abuse and killing of civilians), I agree we can expect Israel's response to be very violent, too.
But NOT indiscriminate.
Rather, it will be very discriminate.
Israel will target Hamas militants, Hamas leadership, those who make weapons for Hamas, those who shelter Hamas leadership.
Israel will NOT target civilians Israel will NOT kidnap cilvilians Israel will NOT torture or rape civilians Israel will NOT rob civilians Israel will NOT murder captured civilians nor dance on their mutilated bodies.
Since that behaviour on Hamas' part is aptly called "brutal", I think it is fair to predict that Israel's response, while violent, will not be brutal.
You say "political" and then try to hang religious attributes on them. Perhaps you are confusing them with Hamas leaders?
Are you unfamiliar with the role of religious parties in Israeli government?You say "political" and then try to hang religious attributes on them. Perhaps you are confusing them with Hamas leaders?
Are you unfamiliar with the role of religious parties in Israeli government?
I commented on Gaetan's post which made no mention of the government of Israel. If Gaetan wishes to clarify which political leaders he was referring to I may modify my comments. Until such time it is my understanding that he is referring to political leaders he has previously named - Netanyahu, Biden, Macron and Trudeau - as collectively being "unrighteous".
Like and many others
We know that you are a lier working for Joe Biden and making comments on any posts.
Who's "we"?
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/11/1175...alist-shireen-abu-akleh-was-killed-a-year-ago
I thought this was common knowledge
Presumably Israel will seek revenge, deterrence and a return of their citizens taken hostage.
So, I imagine they will invade Gaza.
I also expect some moves against Iran and Lebanon. With US support, even participation. With Russia supporting Iran it already has ties to Ukraine war.
It has a potential to be big.
Presumably Israel will seek revenge, deterrence and a return of their citizens taken hostage.
So, I imagine they will invade Gaza.
I also expect some moves against Iran and Lebanon. With US support, even participation. With Russia supporting Iran it already has ties to Ukraine war.
It has a potential to be big.
Him, and his 72 poop fairies