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George Russel Simpson

Worm said:
heeeeeeeeeeere's Georgie!

New filing against Randi

(filed 02 May 2012)

Basically complaining about not being accepted for the MDC
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I was previously one of those who thought the ET Corngod language was nonsense. However, after reading his elegant proofs in steps 55, 58 & 59, I now realize I was wrong, and ET Corngods is real. I am ashamed of my prior beliefs and other so called "skeptics" who still don't see the light.
 
I think he's monitoring the forum. I posted a couple times recently in this thread, and he posted a comment on my blog.
 
Almo said:
I think he's monitoring the forum. I posted a couple times recently in this thread, and he posted a comment on my blog.
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He is definitely monitoring this thread. It is mentioned in his complaint.
 
I wish there was some way for George to contact me. I need to let him know that some of us are smart enough to understand the ET Corngod language.

George, if you are reading this, do everything in your power to reach me. Create a sock puppet if you must.

The world needs to know about this.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
I wish there was some way for George to contact me. I need to let him know that some of us are smart enough to understand the ET Corngod language.

George, if you are reading this, do everything in your power to reach me. Create a sock puppet if you must.

The world needs to know about this.
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Fear not. Your address (both postal service and email) and your telephone number have been embedded by the Corn Gods in The Central Scrutinizer, hidden by the secret code. So is your complete life history, genealogy, sexual preference(s), credit card numbers, and mother's maiden name.

George will be contacting you soon.
 
So English didn't evolve--everything was pre-planned. Did the ET Corn Gods cause the Vikings and Normans to invade England and diddle with the language? Does the game work for Old English? Will it work if George doesn't know what a word means?
 
It does seem like there's a part of his claim that's testable.

His claim includes the ability to find birthdays in full names.

Get 25 people to volunteer their full names and birthdays.

For the "open demonstration", give him five name-birthday pairs and have him demonstrate how he gets one from the other.

Then for the actual test, give him the remaining list of 20 names with the randomized list of 20 birthdays. Even 15 out of 20 right would be exceptional.
 
jsfisher said:
Fear not. Your address (both postal service and email) and your telephone number have been embedded by the Corn Gods in The Central Scrutinizer, hidden by the secret code. So is your complete life history, genealogy, sexual preference(s), credit card numbers, and mother's maiden name.

George will be contacting you soon.
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Of course!!! How could I have not realized that? I guess I'm so new to the ET Corngod language, that I don't realize its full power.
 
AvalonXQ said:
It does seem like there's a part of his claim that's testable.

His claim includes the ability to find birthdays in full names.

Get 25 people to volunteer their full names and birthdays.

For the "open demonstration", give him five name-birthday pairs and have him demonstrate how he gets one from the other.

Then for the actual test, give him the remaining list of 20 names with the randomized list of 20 birthdays. Even 15 out of 20 right would be exceptional.
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I would suggest giving him the 20 names, with an unaffiliated 3rd party holding on to the birthdays. Don't give him a list to guess from.
And someone better than me at statistics would have to work out the odds of getting the year right, the month right, the day right, and any combination of the above. Also the chances of being within a certain number of days.
 
X said:
I would suggest giving him the 20 names, with an unaffiliated 3rd party holding on to the birthdays. Don't give him a list to guess from.
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I would give him a list to guess from. It eliminates a lot of issues, particularly with him insisting that he selected another relevant date for each person on the list, or that his date that is "only" a week off (or the right date, wrong year) is somehow just as correct.
 
AvalonXQ said:
I would give him a list to guess from. It eliminates a lot of issues, particularly with him insisting that he selected another relevant date for each person on the list, or that his date that is "only" a week off (or the right date, wrong year) is somehow just as correct.
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Which is why I'd want to know the probabilities of guessing accurately to within a certain range.

Fair point, though.


I wonder what would happen if two people on the list shared a name?
ETA: Come to think of it, the fact that 2 people with the same name can have different birthdays is pretty solid evidence that information like the date of birth cannot possibly be tied into the person's name in any rigid, codified manner. It would require pre-existing knowledge of the information, and a different method for each of the name-sharers. Making it a subjective numerology game, and not some hard-coded hidden language.
 
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X said:
I wonder what would happen if two people on the list shared a name?
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Actually, in generating the list, I would want to select what are believed to be unique names and then run a quick records search to double check that no immediate duplicates appear.

I would not want "Karen Anne Smith" on the list, or "George Matthew Miller".
 
So:

Generate a list of 25 unique names and birthdays. I'll be courteous, and use real names and birthdays instead of making them up. Middle names included, Mr. Simpson can ignore them if they are not necessary.

Test 1: 5 known name/birthdays pairings, with Mr. Russel showing and explaining his methodology to get from name to birthday using the hidden language.

Test 2: 20 names and 20 birthdays, associations unknown (presumably unknown to the tester as well, to make the test properly blinded). Mr. Simpson uses his ET Corn Gods language system to determine which name is associated with which birthdate.

Required statistical analysis:
Number expected to be right by chance, and the error in that probability.
Number required to be right to qualify as a statistically significant improvement over chance.

Am I missing anything?
 
Sounds good to me.

Let's contact George and see what he thinks. Maybe we can go for one of the local tests with a finder's fee and get a little action ourselves!
 
X said:
Test 2: 20 names and 20 birthdays, associations unknown (presumably unknown to the tester as well, to make the test properly blinded). Mr. Simpson uses his ET Corn Gods language system to determine which name is associated with which birthdate.


Am I missing anything?
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Is George claiming to be able to determine day and month, or day and month and year? The Corn Dog decoding should, according to him, be powerful enough to do the latter.

As for the tests, obviously, the list that correlates name and birth date is kept well away from George and from anyone else involved in the testing. A locked box in a locked room?


Test 2:
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have the names in sealed opaque envelopes that are placed in another set of sealed opaque envelopes identified only by number? Let's call these "packets."

  1. The names are put into the first envelopes and sealed by testing assistant (TA) 1. On each envelope, TA 1 writes her name across the flap, and covers her name with clear tape. TA 1 then shuffles the envelopes.

  2. TA 2 waits until TA 1 has left the room. TA 2 reshuffles the envelopes and numbers them. At this point, either TA 2 can put the envelopes in the larger envelope or we can have TA 3 do that as a separate step.

  3. The packets are handed to the Official Tester (OT).

  4. George enters the room. He is given the unblinded names to work with, and to explain (or not) how he derives the person's birth date.

  5. When he finishes that, he then begins to decode the other names, the ones in the packets. George writes the number of each packet on his decoding sheet before he opens the packet, so he can't say that the paper was magically switched. The OT confirms that the packet was sealed when George took it.

  6. When George has finished processing the names in all the packets, whatever statistical tabulation is necessary takes place.

I do not want George to have a chance to peek, use magic transparency fluid, or in any other way have an opportunity to find out the name of the person prior to his beginning the decoding.

I repeat X's question: "Am I missing anything?"
 
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Its just a goofy variant in gematria, if I'm reading through it. Hardly a new idea, but presented with a kind of "Timecube" psychotic zeal. Sad insomuch as it's someones child or parent going crazy in a very public way, but hilarious for exactly the same reason.
 
Jre1983 said:
Its just a goofy variant in gematria, if I'm reading through it. Hardly a new idea, but presented with a kind of "Timecube" psychotic zeal. Sad insomuch as it's someones child or parent going crazy in a very public way, but hilarious for exactly the same reason.
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While it looks like gematriya, George is incredibly professional at instigating lawsuits based on ... lots of different tangents.

Take a look at the other threads and at the links to his suits, with respect to both the people here and to his businesses.

Harmless and hilarious are not necessarily the correct adjectives for George.

Wardenclyffe, can you provide Jre1983 a little more explanation? Thanks.

ETA: (I ask you because I know you're familiar with George's antics. But of course, others are equally welcome to jump in, with facts or with links to George.)
 
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xterra said:
By the way, who isn't someone's child? Just sayin'
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No one. That's why I include it, so that it's a class of people that includes everyone. In terms of corndog guy, I'll go through the links other than just his own site to get a fuller picture of his hostilities, but his own site oozes mental illness. I never said harmless, but he hasn't harmed me, and so I can still find the website and it's ravings hilarious. Things are only not funny when they happen to you.
 
Looked at the site dealing with his litigation and, well, yeah. Gellar, Hubbard, Simpson, sometimes wackos and frauds get litigious. Fourth amendment violations? Like, search and seizure? Did Randi use his hidden psychic powers he lies about to..... give the dude a seizure?
 
xterra said:
Wardenclyffe, can you provide Jre1983 a little more explanation? Thanks.

ETA: (I ask you because I know you're familiar with George's antics. But of course, others are equally welcome to jump in, with facts or with links to George.)
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Actually, I know very little about this. I was either not here or I just didn't participate when Simpson was applying the first time around. My previous comments were pointing out that some of his current complaints against the JREF might (MIGHT) have merit based on similar complaints voiced by other applicants who seemed to have a seemingly credible case. Not a credible paranormal claim necessarily, but a credible complaint about how the JREF was not communicating with them.

Ward
 
X said:
So:

Generate a list of 25 unique names and birthdays. I'll be courteous, and use real names and birthdays instead of making them up. Middle names included, Mr. Simpson can ignore them if they are not necessary.

Test 1: 5 known name/birthdays pairings, with Mr. Russel showing and explaining his methodology to get from name to birthday using the hidden language.

Test 2: 20 names and 20 birthdays, associations unknown (presumably unknown to the tester as well, to make the test properly blinded). Mr. Simpson uses his ET Corn Gods language system to determine which name is associated with which birthdate.

Required statistical analysis:
Number expected to be right by chance, and the error in that probability.
Number required to be right to qualify as a statistically significant improvement over chance.

Am I missing anything?
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It might be a good idea to state that all the birthdates be from a reasonably narrow range of years (5-10 years perhaps). Some given names are much more common in some decades than others, and this could provide clues as to which name matches which date.
 
bluesjnr said:
Don't worry Scrut, you're right on his radar. See here for your fan club
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Apparently, I made his list too.

He doesn't like our (AvalonXQ and xterra get equal shares of the credit) test protocol. I should point out that I was aware (from the lawsuit claim) that he wanted to test the Corn Gods Language against a different deciphering rule set. Not using the number 66, or not using the Bible, or something.
I am of the opinion that it would be to easy for Mr. Simpson to "gimmick" the results in favour of his method, which is why I avoided such tests. I make no secret of the fact that the whole thing looks hugely subjective, and thus if anyone other than Mr. Simpson were to use the translation rules, he could claim we screwed it up. Which means Mr. Simpson would have to be the one performing the translations. And this is an invitation to biased and unreliable results.

A moot point, really. It seems that, regardless of communication issues, the JREF has some rules which George has not met, and the little clause about not offering the test to those engaged (currently or previously) in legal action against the JREF, so a test is unlikely. I'm just using it as a chance to think through a hypothetical testing example.
 
Jre1983 said:
Its just a goofy variant in gematria, if I'm reading through it. Hardly a new idea, but presented with a kind of "Timecube" psychotic zeal. Sad insomuch as it's someones child or parent going crazy in a very public way, but hilarious for exactly the same reason.
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Worse than Gematria. At least that has some pretense for being a code. The ET Corn Dog language, not so much, because truly anything can be turned into anything.

Here's a condensed version of a proof. By the rules, you can insert 66 anywhere you like, as often as you like. 6+6 = 12, and 2-1 = 1, so you can get 1 anywhere you like. The 1 can be used to adjust an adjacent letter up or down one letter in sequence (repeatedly if need be). It can be used to insert a new letter ("A") or remove a letter (by decrementing it to 0).

So, you can add and remove letters anywhere, and you can change them to anything else.
 
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