General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory

Jack by the hedge said:
It would be all too easy to get the impression from the Dear Leader that being elected to a public office is just a bit of a laugh. You're in the local paper now and then saying something or other is a disgrace and that's about it. Only 22 paper candidates saying they didn't want the job anyway is fewer than I might have guessed.
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Give it a chance, they've barely had time to find the council chamber yet.
 
jimbob said:
I was discussing this with some colleagues from Germany (in Belgium) this week, I invoked Chicken Tikka, when they invoked good German food like Doner Kebab.
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There's a Man Vs Food where he has a hot curry in New York, it isn't mentioned but the restaurant had London Tube signs, London Busses and red telephone boxes all over the walls. "British Indian Restaurant" really is it's own cuisine distinct from it's Indian and Bangladeshi roots, especially when you get to over spiced 'bragging rights' curries which is now being exported. Mind you, in another one Adam Richman described Cheddar Cheese as being American when discussing the influences that led to a dish in another episode so the lack of mention of the history of that restaurant might not have been coincidence.
 
Darat said:
Well not quite - back then your milk was delivered by electrical milk floats early in the morning.
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I miss the days of milk delivery.

Coming home late from a gig, if you found a 'milkie' there were all kinds of things you could buy off the truck:

(Egg nog, custard, yoghurts...)

I don't miss the days where we had to have cans (or tubes) of sweetened condensed milk in the cupboards, for when the shops were closed and you'd run out of milk.

My father loved that stuff, but it was sickeningly sweet to me.
 
novaphile said:
I miss the days of milk delivery.

Coming home late from a gig, if you found a 'milkie' there were all kinds of things you could buy off the truck:

(Egg nog, custard, yoghurts...)

I don't miss the days where we had to have cans (or tubes) of sweetened condensed milk in the cupboards, for when the shops were closed and you'd run out of milk.

My father loved that stuff, but it was sickeningly sweet to me.
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You didn't have to buy the sweetened version. Evaporated milk was the backup in my family.
 
novaphile said:
I miss the days of milk delivery.

Coming home late from a gig, if you found a 'milkie' there were all kinds of things you could buy off the truck:

(Egg nog, custard, yoghurts...)

I don't miss the days where we had to have cans (or tubes) of sweetened condensed milk in the cupboards, for when the shops were closed and you'd run out of milk.

My father loved that stuff, but it was sickeningly sweet to me.
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Carnation milk was (and unbelievably still exists) evaporated milk not condensed milk.
 
I use milk powder when mixing up a sweet ground bait for Carp.
It's also used to make high protein boiled hook baits for carp and chub by those that don't want to pay for ready made boilies.
 
welshdean said:
How many here had a lift home on one after a late night out?
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I did. On more than one occasion. It used to be eerily quiet at that time of the morning in outer London. I would guess it's quite different now. This was back in the late 60's/early 70's.
I left London in the 90's, haven't been back often, just for the occasional concert/gig. I don't like it anymore.
 
Another Conservative MP has been charged with sex offences,

Patrick Spencer, member for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich, has been charged with two counts of sexual assault that (allegedly) happened at London's Groucho club in August 2023.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
There's a Man Vs Food where he has a hot curry in New York, it isn't mentioned but the restaurant had London Tube signs, London Busses and red telephone boxes all over the walls. "British Indian Restaurant" really is it's own cuisine distinct from it's Indian and Bangladeshi roots, especially when you get to over spiced 'bragging rights' curries which is now being exported.
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Yep, I have a couple of British Indian Restaurant recipe books. Hint: buy onions by the ton.
 
Wudang said:
Yep, I have a couple of British Indian Restaurant recipe books. Hint: buy onions by the ton.
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I recently found a great pickled Naga brand. It only takes a tiny amount, but added near the end of cooking transforms the aroma and flavour for a real restaurant effect.
 
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Gulliver Foyle said:
I'm surprised nobody's talking about Starmer's Rivers of Blood speech.
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I must have missed that. Perhaps nobody's talking about it because it didn't actually happen.

I am very disappointed that Labour have decided that they want to carry the Conservatives' water on immigration and that they have decided that placating racists is easier, and more electorally effective than attempting to educate the British public on the benefits of immigration.

Then again we have the BBC repeating the right wing media's lies that the crisis in the NHS, education, and local services isn't because of a decade and a half of deliberate underfunding by successive coalition and Conservative governments but is instead due to a plague of immigrants. There's only so much you can to to educate people but when the opposite message is being pushed heavily everywhere (and where it aligns with people's own prejudices) then maybe you have to admit defeat.
 
Andy_Ross said:
I use milk powder when mixing up a sweet ground bait for Carp.
It's also used to make high protein boiled hook baits for carp and chub by those that don't want to pay for ready made boilies.
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It's used by the coffee machine at work. Real coffee beans and powdered milk.

I brew my own tea. Or have espresso with my own milk heated up in the microwave. A couple of weeks ago I spoke to a colleague who was doing the same, except that he had two double espressos instead of my single espresso.
 
The Don said:
I must have missed that. Perhaps nobody's talking about it because it didn't actually happen.

I am very disappointed that Labour have decided that they want to carry the Conservatives' water on immigration and that they have decided that placating racists is easier, and more electorally effective than attempting to educate the British public on the benefits of immigration.

Then again we have the BBC repeating the right wing media's lies that the crisis in the NHS, education, and local services isn't because of a decade and a half of deliberate underfunding by successive coalition and Conservative governments but is instead due to a plague of immigrants. There's only so much you can to to educate people but when the opposite message is being pushed heavily everywhere (and where it aligns with people's own prejudices) then maybe you have to admit defeat.
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Some of it looks to have been taken out of context.

For example this seems to have nothing of substance but I read as saying that there are societal values that need to be common.

Nations depend on rules – fair rules. Sometimes they’re written down, often they’re not, but either way, they give shape to our values. They guide us towards our rights, of course, but also our responsibilities, the obligations we owe to one another. Now, in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate that, these rules become even more important. Without them, we risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together
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A man has been arrested for arson attacks on Starmer's house. The usual rage baitersbare making jokes about encouraging it, the same people who condemned milkshake throwing.
 
jimbob said:
It's used by the coffee machine at work. Real coffee beans and powdered milk.

I brew my own tea. Or have espresso with my own milk heated up in the microwave. A couple of weeks ago I spoke to a colleague who was doing the same, except that he had two double espressos instead of my single espresso.
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I use powdered milk in the bread machine.

jimbob said:
Some of it looks to have been taken out of context.

For example this seems to have nothing of substance but I read as saying that there are societal values that need to be common.
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The same as with the Blair report on energy strategy, it was, if you read it (I didn't, but I know people who did), in favour of the policy the UK is following, but was looking from a global perspective. The error, which Blair should have been aware of, was releasing it just days ahead of the local elections when there was no time to analyse it properly, but plenty of time to misrepresent it.
 
jimbob said:
It's used by the coffee machine at work. Real coffee beans and powdered milk.

I brew my own tea. Or have espresso with my own milk heated up in the microwave. A couple of weeks ago I spoke to a colleague who was doing the same, except that he had two double espressos instead of my single espresso.
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Really? Euch.
Ours are connected to large containers of milk in a chiller below. If one (there are normal, watered down and not-milk) is empty the screen displays instructions on how to move the feed pipe, though E&F are notified automatically.
 
The Don said:
I must have missed that. Perhaps nobody's talking about it because it didn't actually happen.

I am very disappointed that Labour have decided that they want to carry the Conservatives' water on immigration and that they have decided that placating racists is easier, and more electorally effective than attempting to educate the British public on the benefits of immigration.

Then again we have the BBC repeating the right wing media's lies that the crisis in the NHS, education, and local services isn't because of a decade and a half of deliberate underfunding by successive coalition and Conservative governments but is instead due to a plague of immigrants. There's only so much you can to to educate people but when the opposite message is being pushed heavily everywhere (and where it aligns with people's own prejudices) then maybe you have to admit defeat.
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Whole phrases from the speech were cogged off Enoch Powell, and the tome was identical.
 
jimbob said:
It's used by the coffee machine at work. Real coffee beans and powdered milk.

I brew my own tea. Or have espresso with my own milk heated up in the microwave. A couple of weeks ago I spoke to a colleague who was doing the same, except that he had two double espressos instead of my single espresso.
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I add coffee mate to my coffee along with the milk.
I suppose that counts as milk powder.
 
Gammons seem to be conflicted today.
For a few days they have been ranting about Starmer meeting the Syrian interim president, Ahmed al-Sharaa when he visits the UK. Apparently it shows he is a puppet of the ISIS and Al Qaeda.
Now Donald has just met him and given him praise they don't know what to say.
 
Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan
Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff.

“We have a bonus scheme to protect our most precious resource, which is the senior management team,” Montague told the cross-party environment select committee.

The bonuses would be paid in three tranches in addition to their annual salaries and other awards, the MPs were told.


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Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan

Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff
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Andy_Ross said:
Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan
Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff.

“We have a bonus scheme to protect our most precious resource, which is the senior management team,” Montague told the cross-party environment select committee.

The bonuses would be paid in three tranches in addition to their annual salaries and other awards, the MPs were told.


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Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan

Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff
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Reward for the system functioning as intended.

If these people were judged on the ability to run the water network, then this would be inappropriate.

As their express task is to provide as much 'shareholder value' as possible, then this reward is appropriate.


Maybe, just maybe, privatisation of monopolistic essential services doesn't work? Maybe?


This ◊◊◊◊ makes me so angry.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Doubled their chances by having a reform candidate and an 'independent' in the same ward.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922330871320707112
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Are there not rules against standing for election in bad faith? This twunt stood as an independent. It's clear now he was a Reform party candidate all along. Has he not deceived the electoral commission AND the voters in that seat?
 
Andy_Ross said:
Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan
Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff.

“We have a bonus scheme to protect our most precious resource, which is the senior management team,” Montague told the cross-party environment select committee.

The bonuses would be paid in three tranches in addition to their annual salaries and other awards, the MPs were told.


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Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan

Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff
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Breach of Rule 10 removed.
The management team is the least useful and most easily replaceable resource of just about any organisation. This lot seem to be not worth the paper they wipe their arses with.
 
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Norman Alexander said:
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Breach of Rule 10 removed.
. The management team is the least useful and most easily replaceable resource of just about any organisation. This lot seem to be not worth the paper they wipe their arses with.
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I worked closely with a number of board members of a major water utility in the late 90s. Most of them could have been replaced with garden gnomes to the benefit of the company.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan
Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff.

“We have a bonus scheme to protect our most precious resource, which is the senior management team,” Montague told the cross-party environment select committee.

The bonuses would be paid in three tranches in addition to their annual salaries and other awards, the MPs were told.


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Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan

Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff
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Fair enough. You don't get competent executives of water companies by paying penuts
 
Andy_Ross said:
Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan
Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff.

“We have a bonus scheme to protect our most precious resource, which is the senior management team,” Montague told the cross-party environment select committee.

The bonuses would be paid in three tranches in addition to their annual salaries and other awards, the MPs were told.


www.ft.com

Thames Water executives to receive bonuses from £3bn emergency loan

Utility’s chair tells MPs that retention payments are needed to prevent rivals ‘picking off’ staff
www.ft.com www.ft.com
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Those responsible for testing the quality of Thames water were just going through the motions.
 
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