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Famous Sycamore Gap tree on Hadrian's Wall had been deliberately cut down

Blue Mountain said:
Whilst I understand your great distaste for the royal family, the seedling was given to Charles because he's the patron of the National Trust, which grew the seedlings. He didn't grab it.
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So he got to be the patron on his own merits... There is a place up north where they are missing a tree, but I suppose Windsor has need of an additional tree that has no relationship to Windsor nor the monarch.
 
Darat said:
So he got to be the patron on his own merits... There is a place up north where they are missing a tree, but I suppose Windsor has need of an additional tree that has no relationship to Windsor nor the monarch.
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Do you think that's the only seedling they've germinated?
 
zooterkin said:
Do you think that's the only seedling they've germinated?
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No, and have no idea why one is being planted in Windsor beyond the usual grab or equally as possible the fawning to someone who couldn’t be arsed to go to the wall. The heritage of the tree was due to one thing, its location.
 
It's still a sodding invasaive, ecologically useless sycamore, whether it's up on the Wall or in Windsor.

Did I mention that I do not have a high opinion of sycamores? The wood can be attractive used in furniture, though.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
It's still a sodding invasaive, ecologically useless sycamore, whether it's up on the Wall or in Windsor.

Did I mention that I do not have a high opinion of sycamores? The wood can be attractive used in furniture, though.
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You won't get any pushback from me - I've already posted about the blasted things appearing in my garden. The problem with sycamores isn't growing the damned things it's stopping the damn things growing.
 
Geez, I love sycamores. We had several in our yard and they're an indelible part of my childhood. We used to call their seeds "monkey balls," too young for that to have sexual connotations. They're mighty, spectacular, bark-shedding wonders -- they represent everything innocent and arboreal in my childhood. I know you wooden believe it, but I had to stick a pun in here somewhere, sadly in a very stupid place.
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
Geez, I love sycamores. We had several in our yard and they're an indelible part of my childhood. We used to call their seeds "monkey balls," too young for that to have sexual connotations. They're mighty, spectacular, bark-shedding wonders -- they represent everything innocent and arboreal in my childhood. I know you wooden believe it, but I had to stick a pun in here somewhere, sadly in a very stupid place.
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Are you talking about the same species as we are?

Our one is Acer pseudoplatanus; do you mean Platanus occidentalis? The bark shedding comment would suggest that, as A pseudoplatanus doesn't do this.
 
Yeah, sycamore trees in North America are Platanus occidentalis. They grow near river banks and in wetlands. They probably wouldn't grow so well on hills in Northumberland.
 
ZirconBlue said:
Here in Kentucky, they seem to grow just about anywhere.
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Then let Hadrian's Wall be relocated to Kentucky! That way it could be filled with trees which, apparently, are an integral part of its structure. And I think Hadrian would approve; he never made it to America but if he had he almost certainly would have built a wall somewhere on it.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Then let Hadrian's Wall be relocated to Kentucky! That way it could be filled with trees which, apparently, are an integral part of its structure. And I think Hadrian would approve; he never made it to America but if he had he almost certainly would have built a wall somewhere on it.
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Of course he made it to America how would you have walls otherwise?
 
Darat said:
Of course he made it to America how would you have walls otherwise?
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Ah, well, in the New World walls literally grow on trees; a particular American variety of walnut. Up till a couple of hundred years ago you could buy a seedling at one of the specialist shops on Wall Street and plant it wherever you needed a wall. Unfortunately dropped seeds eventually grew into a giant conurbation and crowded the trees out. Sad story.
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
Except there's no such thing as a sycamore bush.

When are people going realize that puns are unscientific, poorly argued and detrimental to learning?
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You seem to have scientifically analyzed the whole purpose of puns, and come to the correct conclusion. Will you be publishing a paper?
 
Steve said:
You seem to have scientifically analyzed the whole purpose of puns, and come to the correct conclusion. Will you be publishing a paper?
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I wood, but I'll leaf it to those who pine for fame and Tibouchina granulosa. (The Glory Tree, hah!).

TragicMonkey said:
I didn't say there was.
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So I'm barking up the wrong... I forget how that ends. Something to do with bark. I'm barking up the wrong dog?
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
I wood, but I'll leaf it to those who pine for fame and Tibouchina granulosa. (The Glory Tree, hah!).

So I'm barking up the wrong... I forget how that ends. Something to do with bark. I'm barking up the wrong dog?
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I believe the expression is "barking into the wrong end of the dog". We've discussed this in the Community thread about the differences in English dialects between the US, UK, and others; it will not surprise you to learn that Australian version of this common epigram is much filthier.

As far as the incessant tree puns going on, most of them are pretty obvious if you have a good grasp of Entymology.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I believe the expression is "barking into the wrong end of the dog". We've discussed this in the Community thread about the differences in English dialects between the US, UK, and others; it will not surprise you to learn that Australian version of this common epigram is much filthier.

As far as the incessant tree puns going on, most of them are pretty obvious if you have a good grasp of Entymology.
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Um... yeah. That doesn't make sense. I'm guessing you don't know that Entymology is the study of people named Tym.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I believe the expression is "barking into the wrong end of the dog". We've discussed this in the Community thread about the differences in English dialects between the US, UK, and others; it will not surprise you to learn that Australian version of this common epigram is much filthier.
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****** ****** the *********** **** to ****, for those who are interested.
 
In other arborial-related news, a chain restaurant (Toby Carvery, Enfield, north London) recently had cut down an oak tree which they claim was dead and a safety hazard.

The snag with what they (or their contractor) has done is: 1. It's not dead (and at most needed a light trim). 2. Hazard or no, it's not their land - the property is leased.

The incident has been reported to the police, who apparently don't find it to be criminal. A civil case may be pursued.

www.bbc.co.uk

Enfield oak tree felled by Toby Carvery 'had hundreds of years to live'

The ancient oak felled in north London was classified as a "fine specimen" last year, documents show.
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enfielddispatch.co.uk

Toby Carvery admits felling ancient Whitewebbs oak tree

The owner of the pub chain falsely claimed the tree was dead as justification for the felling which has shocked local people and prompted outrage from conservationists across the country
enfielddispatch.co.uk enfielddispatch.co.uk

I'd boycott them, but as vegetarian probably pointless.
 
commandlinegamer said:
2. Hazard or no, it's not their land - the property is leased.
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Leased apparently from the local council. I wonder what the lease agreement says about management of the surrounding land.
It's hard for me to imagine a leaseholder doing this at their own expense if the landlord is the one responsible.
From your article:
The Enfield oak was worth £1m, according to tree valuer Russell Miller, who made his estimate using the Capital Asset Value for Amenity Trees system.

Mr Miller said it was "much older and much more valuable" than the Sycamore Gap tree cut down in Northumberland in 2023.

He added: "This tree is designated... as an irreplaceable habitat because it's got decay features and habitats within it that you cannot replace within hundreds of years.
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The tree had "decay features"? Also the photos seem to show that it had multiple trunks, at least one of which had a significant lean to it. I could imagine that it would be deemed a hazard. I suppose this can be sorted out by a lawsuit.

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