Face, meet leopard. Leopard, meet face.

Not to mention that businesses have been happy to put Jesus fish on their promo materials and restaurants have been happy to put scripture on their menus for yonks also with 'minimal consequence'
 
Emily's Cat said:
Businesses have been doing this for years. There are hundreds or thousands of businesses that proudly display their ideological positions. This isn't new - the only thing that borders on new is that some businesses that aren't explicitly churchy are now emboldened to express support for conservative ideals. Businesses have been hollering their progressive bona fides for years with minimal consequence.
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I doubt that they have "now" been "emboldened to express support for conservative ideals" and "proudly display their ideological positions." It is much more likely that it never occurred to them that it might be a sure way to lose customers or that they may even have been deliberately led to believe that only the weak of mind would have access to the “the anti-woke online marketplace,” as mentioned in post 641.

It may not have been what the emboldened conservatives were proudly going for:
Website For MAGA-Friendly Businesses Backfires As People Use It For Boycotts (yahoo!news/Huffpost, April 26, 2025)
Jeff, a regular user of the social media platform Reddit, started noticing people in his San Diego community posting messages desperate for ways to fight back against Trump’s recklessness. Some called for boycotting MAGA-friendly businesses but didn’t know how to identify companies that support Trump’s views. So Jeff, who had extensively researched PublicSquare at his previous bank job, tossed in a note about it.
“MAGA has made it easy for all of us to avoid their businesses,” he wrote under his Reddit name, Hour-Abbreviations18. “A couple years ago, they introduced a website – publicsq.com — to promote MAGA businesses. We can use that same tool to make informed purchasing decisions.”
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And those proud emboldened conservatives may only just now be discovering the consequences. I can recommend the YouTube video from The Humanist Report about this phenomenon:
1:46--> The app is gaining popularity among people on the left and also liberals because of how useful it is to them because now they know which businesses support fascism and thus know which businesses they should avoid. And the app has blown up to the point where some businesses registered with Public Square are now publicly distancing themselves from the app. (...) So their response is basically: "Oh gee! Golly! We have no idea how we ended up on this MAGA-supporting website. We're not Trump supporters! That's not us."
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And there are five-star reviews of the app!
From the Humanist Report video:
7:02--> This person gives it five stars as well, saying:
"Great app that is easy to find out what businesses support kidnapping citizens to concentration camps, cutting cancer research destroying the economy, pushing disinformation, and cutting social services for people who pay for them out of their taxes. Thank you for helping us spread awareness to avoid these corrupt, disgraceful businesses pushed by our malignant authoritarian regime."
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FAFO!

 
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A Shocking Number of Trump 2024 Voters Already Regret Their Votes: He’s “Sowing Chaos” (The Humanist Report on YouTube, May 15, 2025 - 24:26 min.)
2:34--> ... data indicates that the leopards have indeed feasted since Trump took office.
Martha McCarti of Newsweek writes:
"Navigator Research's poll conducted between April 24th through 28th among 1,000 registered voters found that one in nine, 11% of respondents who voted for Trump in 2024, regret having done so.
Another 16% do not regret voting for him but were disappointed.
Among those who identify as moderates, 47% said they regret voting for Trump or are disappointed by his early performance, while 43% of Trump voters who do not identify as MAGA said the same.
But the vast majority, 73% of Trump voters, neither regret their vote nor feel disappointed by his first few months back in the Oval Office.
Only 13% of MAGA Republicans said they regret voting for Trump or are disappointed by his early performance.
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The video has several clips with both MAGA celebrities and ordinary Trump voters who regret their Trump support.

 
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Trump-backing farmers vent Trump pride is now 'hopelessness, frustration, anger'

Farmers, who voted for President Donald Trump, are now feeling "helpless, frustrated, and angry" after the administration made cuts to services they rely on, according to the Washington Post.

Vegetable farmers Jacob and Jennifer Thomas have taken more than a 10 percent hit to their bottom line after Trump “abruptly cut $1 billion from two programs that supplied local produce and meat to schools and food banks across the country.”

“The financial insecurity makes my depression worse,” third-generation farmer Jacob Thomas told the Post.

Then, the administration also cut a $8,000 grant, which would have allowed them to build a new greenhouse.

Later, their plans for “a new warehouse and expansion of their farm store are up in the air because of the administration pausing, then unpausing a $750,000 federal agriculture grant,” the Post reports.
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Many in the area voted for Trump, but the good feelings are starting to fade, giving way “to a growing sense of helplessness, frustration, and anger,” the Post wrote.

“For every farmer I’ve talked to, this has been earth-shattering and life-changing,” Bryan Zesiger, a winemaker, told the Post. “I don’t know what they were supposed to achieve, but from our perspective, you just hurt a lot of people.”
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"We wanted to hurt other people, we shouldn't get hurt!"
 
shemp said:
Trump-backing farmers vent Trump pride is now 'hopelessness, frustration, anger'






"We wanted to hurt other people, we shouldn't get hurt!"
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Hi there, farmers! Remember this sort of thing? It was only late last year.

www.foxnews.com

I’m a farmer – and know Kamala Harris would be a disaster for American agriculture

From trade to taxes, the policies of former President Trump supported U.S. agriculture, making it easier for us to make a living raising products that feed the world.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Well, you've heard of FAFO, we know. So here's the thing. You have done the FA part. Now this is the FO part. M'kay?

So put on your big boy pants and wear the consequences of your own decisions. As in GTFO.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Hi there, farmers! Remember this sort of thing? It was only late last year.

www.foxnews.com

I’m a farmer – and know Kamala Harris would be a disaster for American agriculture

From trade to taxes, the policies of former President Trump supported U.S. agriculture, making it easier for us to make a living raising products that feed the world.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Well, you've heard of FAFO, we know. So here's the thing. You have done the FA part. Now this is the FO part. M'kay?

So put on your big boy pants and wear the consequences of your own decisions. As in GTFO.
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And eat ◊◊◊◊ and die!


Them, not you.
 
I view them as much victims of the Rightist Trumpian propaganda machine as anyone else. They were brainwashed into acting against their own best interests - that's not their fault. It's the puppetmasters that I blame.
 
shemp said:
Trump-backing farmers vent Trump pride is now 'hopelessness, frustration, anger'

"We wanted to hurt other people, we shouldn't get hurt!"
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Yes, but don't forget another important part of this:
What made them want "to hurt other people" in the first place? How did they get to that point?
Republicans have successfully convinced them that those 'other people' are hurting them.
And it's nothing new: Republicans and their backers have spent decades telling this lie.
Trump is not the one who came up with the idea and noticed that it could be used to win elections.
He just radicalized the message: "They're eating the dogs" etc.
Farmers ought to know that oligarchs and big corporations are the ones they are up against.
But farmers were never very smart. That they're using high tech rather than husbandry nowadays hasn't changed that.
 
arthwollipot said:
I view them as much victims of the Rightist Trumpian propaganda machine as anyone else. They were brainwashed into acting against their own best interests - that's not their fault. It's the puppetmasters that I blame.
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A LOT of other Americans seemed somehow to resist the evil hypnosis rays from the Trump propaganda machine. Why not these "smart" people? Could it be...they aren't as smart as they thought they were?
 
Norman Alexander said:
A LOT of other Americans seemed somehow to resist the evil hypnosis rays from the Trump propaganda machine. Why not these "smart" people? Could it be...they aren't as smart as they thought they were?
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There's lots of reasons why some people fall for propaganda while others don't. In this case, the propaganda played into insecurities that the Rightists had been fostering for years - decades, even. It's unevenly distributed, especially in the ◊◊◊◊◊◊-up American system of politics in which extreme partisanship is not only encouraged but the only way to play the game.
 
arthwollipot said:
I view them as much victims of the Rightist Trumpian propaganda machine as anyone else. They were brainwashed into acting against their own best interests - that's not their fault. It's the puppetmasters that I blame.
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I've always said that about working class Tory/Reform/Brexit voters in the UK, but how long does that hold? How many times do we sympathise with them hitting themselves in the face when they're hitting us too, especially since many of them are hitting themselves in the face as a consequence specifically of wanting to hit other even more vulnerable people in the face?
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I've always said that about working class Tory/Reform/Brexit voters in the UK, but how long does that hold? How many times do we sympathise with them hitting themselves in the face when they're hitting us too, especially since many of them are hitting themselves in the face as a consequence specifically of wanting to hit other even more vulnerable people in the face?
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Don't get me wrong - they should definitely be encouraged to stop hitting themselves in the face. And I'm not saying that you should sympathise with them. I'm just pointing out that I feel like they're the first victims of the authoritarian regime.
 
arthwollipot said:
Don't get me wrong - they should definitely be encouraged to stop hitting themselves in the face. And I'm not saying that you should sympathise with them. I'm just pointing out that I feel like they're the first victims of the authoritarian regime.
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Tools, not victims. Remember, a hammer gets as much of the hit as the nails …
 
arthwollipot said:
I view them as much victims of the Rightist Trumpian propaganda machine as anyone else. They were brainwashed into acting against their own best interests - that's not their fault. It's the puppetmasters that I blame.
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At some stage a person needs to grow out of toddlerhood and take prrsonal responsibility for being a nazi.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I've always said that about working class Tory/Reform/Brexit voters in the UK, but how long does that hold? How many times do we sympathise with them hitting themselves in the face when they're hitting us too, especially since many of them are hitting themselves in the face as a consequence specifically of wanting to hit other even more vulnerable people in the face?
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This seems more and more appropriate (wrt US voters, don't know much about UK politics):

Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is "Nazi." Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?
A.R. Moxon
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I've always said that about working class Tory/Reform/Brexit voters in the UK, but how long does that hold? How many times do we sympathise with them hitting themselves in the face when they're hitting us too, especially since many of them are hitting themselves in the face as a consequence specifically of wanting to hit other even more vulnerable people in the face?
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Especially because if suddenly the one policy they object to was reversed they'd immediately resume allegiance. "Trump's not supposed to cut our farm subsidies! We've been betrayed!" "The subsidies have been reinstated." "God bless Trump forever, let's go round up immigrants!"
 
arthwollipot said:
I view them as much victims of the Rightist Trumpian propaganda machine as anyone else. They were brainwashed into acting against their own best interests - that's not their fault. It's the puppetmasters that I blame.
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Only up to a point. Many people have some realistic assessment of what their best interests are, and many also have enough humanity to consider the best interests of others. Xenophobia, racism, and the myth of bootstrapping American exceptionalism were already there. You can blame the propaganda machine for exploiting them, but it takes two to tango.
 
bruto said:
Only up to a point. Many people have some realistic assessment of what their best interests are, and many also have enough humanity to consider the best interests of others. Xenophobia, racism, and the myth of bootstrapping American exceptionalism were already there. You can blame the propaganda machine for exploiting them, but it takes two to tango.
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And what do you think is the cause of the preexisting xenophobia, racism, and the myth of bootstrapping American exceptionalism in the first place?
 
arthwollipot said:
And what do you think is the cause of the preexisting xenophobia, racism, and the myth of bootstrapping American exceptionalism in the first place?
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Fear of death. It's at the root; most politics is about distribution of resources, most concern about resources is fear of missing out on them and thereby living less well which is to get nearer to death. Fear and hatred of the Other is worry about acquiring and keeping those resources, and distributing them in an acceptable way. The appeal of patriotic exceptionalist mythology is comforting to people who imagine "it can never happen here" -- what they really mean is "I hope it never happens to me". It's fundamental mortal terror -- literally, for each of those words. That's why people get so irrational and emotional about politics: their little lizard brains are frothy with fear for their very existence.

Cheerful thoughts!
 
TragicMonkey said:
Fear of death. It's at the root; most politics is about distribution of resources, most concern about resources is fear of missing out on them and thereby living less well which is to get nearer to death. Fear and hatred of the Other is worry about acquiring and keeping those resources, and distributing them in an acceptable way. The appeal of patriotic exceptionalist mythology is comforting to people who imagine "it can never happen here" -- what they really mean is "I hope it never happens to me". It's fundamental mortal terror -- literally, for each of those words. That's why people get so irrational and emotional about politics: their little lizard brains are frothy with fear for their very existence.

Cheerful thoughts!
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The Trump approach to informing the MAGA masses about their economic management is roughly the equivalent of the SS telling the Jews they were just being sent to the showers and to leave their clothes neatly for when they got back, when they were being herded into the gas chambers.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Fear of death. It's at the root; most politics is about distribution of resources, most concern about resources is fear of missing out on them and thereby living less well which is to get nearer to death. Fear and hatred of the Other is worry about acquiring and keeping those resources, and distributing them in an acceptable way. The appeal of patriotic exceptionalist mythology is comforting to people who imagine "it can never happen here" -- what they really mean is "I hope it never happens to me". It's fundamental mortal terror -- literally, for each of those words. That's why people get so irrational and emotional about politics: their little lizard brains are frothy with fear for their very existence.

Cheerful thoughts!
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However, the "fear for their very existence" and the "fear and hatred of the Other" is so much worse in a society where you can see those things actually happen, people lose their livelihood, i.e. where there is no or only a very insufficient safety net keeping people afloat if they get sick or lose their jobs.
It doesn't inspire people to think of "distributing [the resources] in an acceptable way." Instead, it inspires them to think of ways to make sure that they won't be the ones losing out, which they hope to accomplish by kicking downwards, by removing the ones that they think are undeserving and shouldn't have access to any resources at all, i.e. the homeless, the immigrants, the sick, the black - never the ones who are hoarding all the resources, i.e. the oligarchs and the politicians they pay.
 
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My point is that it didn't start with Trump.
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TBF, I don't think Trump has ever personally cared about anyone but himself since his unfortunate childhood. So, to some extent, the manipulation of the MAGA mindset has been done by those far better at it than the orange ogre. And yes, that sort of thing has long pre-dated Trump. Even as far back as Lindberg and the pre-WW2 fascist movement. Donny is just the latest and worst iteration.
 
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Of course he hasn't. He can't. He is psychologically incapable of caring about anybody unless they can be of some use to him. That's his pathology.
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I imagine it depends on how we define "care." He does not care for anyone as another person, as a normal person might. But insofar as the distress of others seems to be the thing that makes him happy, he might be said to care about them.
 
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Helen said:
Well, say what you like about King Con (and I do! I do!), but he knows that there is no one in who is able to praise, adore, and worship him the way he is able to praise, adore and worship himself, so why on earth would he care about anyone else, once they have been conned by his latest grift?
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He's like when Cat meets Camille. And just like Camille, he's actually a disgusting blob.
 
bruto said:
I imagine it depends on how we define "care." He does not care for anyone as another person, as a normal person might. But insofar as the distress of others seems to be the thing that makes him happy, he might be said to care about them.
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That's not what makes him happy. He makes people miserable because it's a power trip. He has the power. He has the control. That is what makes him happy - exerting power over others. Other people matter to him only inasmuch as he controls them. If they acknowledge that, if they bow and scrape and tell him how wonderful he is, he likes them. If they don't, if they defy him, they are the Enemy, to be ridiculed and derided and other than that making him feel good about himself, he is indifferent to what happens to them.
 
Helen said:
Well, say what you like about King Con (and I do! I do!), but he knows that there is no one in who is able to praise, adore, and worship him the way he is able to praise, adore and worship himself, so why on earth would he care about anyone else, once they have been conned by his latest grift?
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He loves to be able to treat them like dirt them hear their shouts and cheers of adulation. His shoot someone on fifth Avenue aside was him expressing that cynicism.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Reposted from another thread.

🐆.

It's just frankly ridiculous how horribly Dump treats his adoring disciples, and how they just keep adoring him. It'd be really sad if they weren't worshiping such horrible people.
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I think they stick with him because he hates the same people as they do. What they don’t realize is that Donald Trump pretty much hates them too. He panders to them and grifts off of them. That’s not love.
 
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"I Voted for Trump" — Now My Industry's Down 23% and Collapsing Fast: Freight CEO’s Heartbreaking Realization

Craig Fuller thought he was voting for business savvy, not economic shock therapy. But just 100…
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“I Voted for Trump” — Now My Industry’s Down 23% and Collapsing Fast: Freight CEO’s Heartbreaking Realization​

Craig Fuller thought he was voting for business savvy, not economic shock therapy. But just 100 days into Donald Trump’s second term, the founder of Chattanooga-based freight analytics firm FreightWaves says the administration’s aggressive tariff policies are slamming the industry he helped build—and fast.

“I did not vote for a neutron bomb to wipe out supply chains and small businesses,” Fuller wrote in an April 20 social media post. A longtime Trump supporter and even a rumored contender for transportation secretary, Fuller is now sounding the alarm about the damage he says is being done by what he calls “economic whiplash.”

In his view, the 145% tariffs on Chinese goods are functionally an embargo, and they’ve been rolled out so suddenly that U.S. companies haven’t had time to adapt. “It’s too much too fast,” Fuller told reporters in a phone interview. “The economy can’t absorb it.”

Fuller’s concerns reflect a growing unease in the freight sector. Traditionally, spring marks an uptick in shipping volume. But this year, he says, demand is softening—and fast. Truck traffic out of Los Angeles, the country’s largest port, is already down 23% compared to the same period last year. While not all of that is due to tariffs, Fuller sees it as an early warning sign.


“It works like a virus,” he said. “It starts in Southern California and spreads across the country. If you can’t move freight out of L.A., you’re not going to be filling trucks to places like Chicago, Dallas, or Kansas City either.”

Freight imports through Southern California ports could be slashed by as much as 50% this year, he predicts. And that means layoffs across the supply chain are likely coming by June.
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Hey pal, guess what?

◊◊◊◊ YOU!!!
 
So many people seem to have voted for Donald Trump because "business." If they had actually done any homework, they'd have realized that Trump built his own business by stiffing and then bankrupting the smaller businesses he relied upon to do the actual work. Donald Trump is not a champion of small business. They're his prey.
 
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