Cont: Electric universe theories here (2)

[Ziggurat]

So the ELECTROMAGNETIC FORCE dominates gravity at only a weak 0.55v

On an individual proton, yes.

Now tell me: how much of the earth is made of individual protons? What's the effect of this electric force on other matter? Is it stronger than gravity for, say, a nitrogen molecule?

As usual, you are completely out of your depth, and in no position to evaluate anything you read.

 

[Sol88]

Is that all you can say? Black holes exist, and have been observed, both directly and indirectly.

Well, if all you have is GAS and GRAVITY...

Considering the distance these "winds" and "jets" extend that's quite the punch your maths has to place in a singularity!

What type of HYPOTHETICAL black hole are we talking here, steenkh?

Maybe a Kerr–Newman black hole?

 

[steenkh]

Well, if all you have is GAS and GRAVITY...

And you have nothing, so what is best?

 

[Sol88]

On an individual proton, yes.

Now tell me: how much of the earth is made of individual protons? What's the effect of this electric force on other matter? Is it stronger than gravity for, say, a nitrogen molecule?

As usual, you are completely out of your depth, and in no position to evaluate anything you read.

Easy champ!

we are talking PLASMA not GAS or solids and liquids at this time!

ELECTROMAGNETISM dominates GRAVITY in a PLASMA.

The Universe is roughly 99.6% matter in the PLASMA state and your hung up on 0.4%?



Oh, whats happening to the ELECTRONS in the case, ziggurat?

 

[Sol88]

And you have nothing, so what is best?

PLASMA! 99.6% of matter in the INFINITE UNIVERSE is in the PLASMA state.

 

[Sol88]

State of Matter	Estimated % of Baryonic Matter	Where It's Found
Plasma	>99.9%	Stars, interstellar & intergalactic space
Gas	<0.1%	Planetary atmospheres, molecular clouds
Solid	≪0.01%	Planets, moons, asteroids, dust
Liquid	≪0.001%	Rare: Earth’s water, Titan's methane

Chat reckons ^^^

On an individual proton, yes.

Now tell me: how much of the earth is made of individual protons? What's the effect of this electric force on other matter? Is it stronger than gravity for, say, a nitrogen molecule?

As usual, you are completely out of your depth, and in no position to evaluate anything you read.

So a PLASMA containing IONS, ELECTRONS and DUST (CHARGED superduper heavy) would respond to the ELECTROMAGNETIC force over gravity.

but you say no, ziggurat?

GRAVITY? on GAS? 0.1%?

 

[steenkh]

PLASMA! 99.6% of matter in the INFINITE UNIVERSE is in the PLASMA state.

So what?

 

[steenkh]

So a PLASMA containing IONS, ELECTRONS and DUST (CHARGED superduper heavy) would respond to the ELECTROMAGNETIC force over gravity.

Obviously, that depends on the strength of the fields.

 

[Sol88]

Obviously, that depends on the strength of the fields.

Yes.

 

[Sol88]

Obviously, that depends on the strength of the fields.

Ok, these are strong fields, what happens to the ELECTRONS, IONS, DUST in these fields? If Earths 0.55v can accelerate charged particles to such speeds, what speeds can these fields generate?

Magnetars have magnetic fields several thousand times stronger than most neutron stars and host the strongest magnetic fields of any known object in the universe. Disturbances to their extreme magnetic fields can cause a magnetar to release up to a thousand times more X‑ray energy than it normally would for several weeks. This enhanced state is called an outburst, but the mechanisms behind them are still not well understood.

IXPE obtains first X-ray polarization measurement of magnetar outburst​

As you say, steenkh, so what...
Well,

"Hard X‑rays" refer to X‑rays with shorter wavelengths and higher energies than "soft X‑rays." Although prevalent in magnetars, the mechanics driving the production of these high energy X‑ray photons are still largely unknown. Several theories have been proposed to explain this emission, but now the high polarization associated with these hard X‑rays provide further clues into their origin.

Mainstream have a mystery.

 

[Sol88]

The mystery...

High-energy tails are pretty ubiquitous in the magnetar population, but their origin is still poorly understood. Our spectropolarimetric analysis showed that in 1E 1841−045 this component is polarized at more than 65% and can be well interpreted in terms of synchrotron/curvature emission. The intermediate power-law component has a degree of polarization of 30%, consistent with the predictions for resonant Compton scattering in the magnetosphere, while the moderate polarization of the soft, thermal component (≈25%) may be produced by a condensed surface or a bombarded atmosphere.

Now from a PLASMA DOUBLE LAYER BIRKELAND CURRENT frame of mind...

Gravity has trouble producing SYNCHROTRON, so I'll leave that to the mathamajicians to find a suitable theoretical formula.

Now ELECTRIC FIELDS are very good particle accelerators...

One suspects a powerful ELECTRIC FIELD from Faraday's law... oh, no mention of ELECTRIC FIELDS in the paper?

I think this is the real mystery, would one not EXPECT the ELECTRIC FIELD at the "Magnetar" to be the cause of the SYNCHROTRON radtion?

Maybe even a PLASMA DOUBLE LAYER?

 

[steenkh]

Mainstream have a mystery.

Mainstream knows that gravity is the driver of all this, but the precise mechanism is not known.
You, on the other hand, has no driver. You have nothing that can create those powerful fields - and yes, they are powerful.

Now ELECTRIC FIELDS are very good particle accelerators...

One suspects a powerful ELECTRIC FIELD from Faraday's law... oh, no mention of ELECTRIC FIELDS in the paper?

I don’t know if you are right here (you are usually wrong), but you have no way of creating this electric field, so your idea is dead in the water.

 

[Sol88]

Ummm.....

IXPE Detection of Highly Polarized X-Rays from the Magnetar 1E 1841-045​

meanwhile, the hard power law exhibits a polarization degree exceeding 65%, pointing to a synchrotron/curvature origin.

Synchrotron radiation is similar to bremsstrahlung radiation, which is emitted by a charged particle when the acceleration is parallel to the direction of motion.

The radiation produced in this way has a characteristic polarization, and the frequencies generated can range over a large portion of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Particle Accelerators​

So an ELECTRIC FIELD is REQUIRED.

but

In astrophysics, synchrotron emission occurs, for instance, due to ultra-relativistic motion of a charged particle around a black hole. When the source follows a circular geodesic around the black hole, the synchrotron radiation occurs for orbits close to the photosphere where the motion is in the ultra-relativistic regime.

Damnnn foiled again, in space it's gravity not ELECTRIC FIELDS...

The 'ol circular geodesic around the black hole chestnut. Checked the mathamajics and yup checks out.

 

[Ziggurat]

You've got no idea what synchrotron radiation is, do you?

 

[Sol88]

like your going to tell us...

Hint. No GAS evolved! Start there

Though, there may be strong magnetic fields involved here too, so careful, or you'll blow a poopit valve.

We need ACCELERATION here, we need an ELECTRIC FIELD.

aaaannnd

We have one, of course. Call them Magnetars if it blows the wind thru your hair!

 

[Ziggurat]

We need ACCELERATION here

Yes.

, we need an ELECTRIC FIELD.

No. Electric fields are not the only way to accelerate charges.

 

[Sol88]

Which of course is good to know. MAGNETIC FIELDS affect charged particles as well, mainly by changing their direction.

Though an ELECTRIC FIELD of course is the DRIVER.

Here is a very powerful electric field, a PLASMA DOUBLE LAYER.

IXPE Detection of Highly Polarized X-Rays from the Magnetar 1E 1841-045​

PLASMA DOUBLE LAYERS BIRKELAND CURRENTS

How are the big bangers accelerating particles(PLASMA), ziggurat? Powerful math acting on GAS?

 

[Sol88]

How do the big bangers get gravity to accelerate PLASMA (CHARGED PARTICLES)?

Dark matter? Dark Energy? Clever math?

It's mystery...

 

[Sol88]

Self-learning neural network cracks iconic black hole​

The researchers did not just make predictions about Sagittarius A*. They also looked at M87*, the black hole at the center of M87. Among other things, they found that this black hole is also spinning fast, but not as fast as Sagittarius A*. Besides that, it is spinning in the opposite direction to the infalling gas. The astronomers suggest that this counter-rotating motion may be the result of a merger with another galaxy.

GAS or PLASMA?

Maybe ask the AI if the black hole,e is charged and "acting" like an ELECTRIC FIELD on the PLASMA??

 

[Sol88]

Lets ask a nueral network the quetion.

"outcomes from the black hole also possessing charge?"

Great question. The idea of a charged black hole—one that carries an electric charge—is a fascinating theoretical possibility. While black holes in nature are expected to be nearly neutral due to charge neutralization by surrounding plasma, considering charged black holes in theory helps physicists test and extend general relativity and electromagnetism.


Here's a breakdown of what would happen—or what outcomes we expect—if a black hole had charge:

ok

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• The general solution for a charged, non-rotating black hole in Einstein’s equations is called a Reissner–Nordström black hole.
• If it also spins, it’s described by the Kerr–Newman metric.
• Charge introduces electromagnetic forces in addition to gravity

righto...

3.​

• A charged black hole would generate strong electric fields.
• This could:
  
  • Accelerate charged particles, producing observable radiation.
  • Cause pair production near the horizon (electron-positron pairs).
  • Alter accretion disk behavior due to additional electrostatic forces.

Ok.

So does a black hole contain a charge, ziggurat? Does the math check out?

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[W.D.Clinger]

How do the big bangers get gravity to accelerate PLASMA (CHARGED PARTICLES)?

Dark matter? Dark Energy? Clever math?

It's mystery...

It might be a mystery to those who are unaware that gravity affects all massive particles, regardless of charge.

 

[Sol88]

It might be a mystery to those who are unaware that gravity affects all massive particles, regardless of charge.

Will it affect these massive PLASMA particles?

Dust will also play a minor) role if you go to cometary plasmas, and why does it play a minor role? because it is a fragging 1,000,000.000 times heavier than protons (10-18 to 10 -13 kg versus 10-27 kg). And yes. there are two specific dust modes, the dust accoustic and the dust magneto accoustic, and one of them has never been found up to now.

A black hole is obviously your name (mainstreams) name for moderately powerful ELECTRIC FIELD.

If you'd like to use math to "prove" attractive only gravity can accelerate PLASMA then have a crack.

The intermediate power law is polarized at around 30%, consistent with predictions for resonant Compton scattering in the star magnetosphere; meanwhile, the hard power law exhibits a polarization degree exceeding 65%, pointing to a synchrotron/curvature origin.

A rotating charged black hole maybe?

 

[Ziggurat]

How do the big bangers get gravity to accelerate PLASMA (CHARGED PARTICLES)?

Mass. There are no massless charged particles. That’s how charged particles get accelerated by gravity.

God damn, but you’re bad at this.

It's mystery...

To you, apparently. But then, you’re probably surprised that water is wet.

 

[Sol88]

Mass. There are no massless charged particles. That’s how charged particles get accelerated by gravity.

God damn, but you’re bad at this.

To you, apparently. But then, you’re probably surprised that water is wet.

Mass???





That's a good one!


Here ya go, What's MASS?

Talking about bad at it! and it's used for the attractive only weak force of gravity?

If you need more MASS just add a dash of darkness (mathmajical freedom) and bingo... too easy.

I've a bridge to sell you too...

 

[Ziggurat]

Mass???

Yes, mass. Electrons have mass. Protons have mass. Massive particles are accelerated by gravity. Having a charge doesn't insulate particles against gravity.

A massive particle (charged or not) near the photosphere of a black hole will experience rather extreme acceleration. No dark matter is needed.

 

[Sol88]

What is the power of its ELECTRIC FIELD? The black hole a mean, ziggurat. It is accelerating MASS away from the center of gravity.

or are you implying that your math has made black holes gravity infinitely powerful? more powerfull than an ELECTRIC FIELD on PLASMA?

Like other magnetars, 1E 1841−045 is known to exhibit significant hard X-ray emission. These high-energy tails were originally detected by INTEGRAL (L. Kuiper et al. 2004, 2006; S. Mereghetti et al. 2005; S. Molkov et al. 2005; D. Götz et al. 2006), can extend up to a few hundreds of keV, and are highly phase dependent (P. R. den Hartog et al. 2008a, 2008b; J. K. Vogel et al. 2014; C. Yang et al. 2016).

Their physical origin is still poorly understood and different interpretations have been proposed, ranging from thermal bremsstrahlung in the surface layers heated by returning currents, to synchrotron emission from pairs in the magnetosphere (C. Thompson & A. M. Beloborodov 2005), to Compton resonant upscattering from relativistic charges (M. G. Baring et al. 2005; M. G. Baring & A. K. Harding 2008; A. M. Beloborodov 2013; Z. Wadiasingh et al. 2018). Thanks to NuSTAR, we were able to characterize this emission component after the beginning of the burst-active phase. We find that the hard power law contributes significantly to the large polarization of the source at higher energies (5–8 keV).

The properties of an ELECTRIC FIELD accelerating PLASMA (charged particles) are poorly understood??

different interpretations? Like gravity can accelerate MASS to relativistic speeds?



I mean, I have to assume you are serious.

You are serious, ziggurat? I guess that is why GAS feature so highly in your gravity. Gravity affects GAS far more than an ELECTRIC FIELD.

Didn't you know?

 

[Sol88]

further

AGN's

A Relativistic Jet in the Radio Quiet AGN Mrk 110

The episodic, confined jets we detect likely represent an important energy transfer mechanism operating within nominally radio-quiet systems that dominate the AGN
census, complementing our understanding of how AGN influence their host galaxies.

This “hidden” kinetic feed-back channel may significantly impact AGN-host galaxy co-evolution models and necessitates a fundamental reassessment of how jets contribute to the energy budget of galactic nuclei, regardless of their classical radio designation.

right...

separate AGN categories into a unified evo-lutionary framework where all supermassive black holes po-tentially cycle through jet-producing phases of varying dura-
tion and intensity, with observable radio properties governed by the interplay between intrinsic physical drivers—such as black hole spin, accretion rate, and magnetic flux—and envi-ronmental conditions, including gas density, interstellar pres-sure, and large-scale feedback processes.

GAS!!!!

Where is the PLASMA?

This is a peer reviewed paper that I assume the authors know about PLASMA but .... crickets!

 

[Ziggurat]

What is the power of its ELECTRIC FIELD?

What electric field?

It is accelerating MASS away from the center of gravity.

How do you know?

 

[Sol88]

The Black holes/Magnatar/AGN/Pulsars ELECTRIC FIELD. The one causing the SYNCHROTRON signature.

That one.

 

[Sol88]

How's this one then...

Searching for axions by analyzing X-ray observations of entire galaxies​

The ongoing search for dark matter, the elusive type of matter that does not emit, absorb or reflect light and is estimated to account for most of the universe's mass, has not yet yielded conclusive results. Axions, hypothetical elementary particles that were first theorized about in the 1970s, are among the most promising candidates for dark matter.

whoooboy! Once upon a time...

but

Stars are known to generate a large quantity of light particles; for example, a stellar plasma constantly produces neutrinos, which can easily escape due to their weak interactions with other particles. The idea behind the team's study is that axions can be produced during similar processes in which photons might weakly interact with them.

Axions, hypothetical elementary particles, those ones?

"The first step of this experiment is predicting the axion production inside the stellar interiors of the galaxy's star population, which comes from photons in the star's plasma converting to axions," explained Ning. "These axions then stream out of the star, and as they travel toward us, they can interact with the magnetic fields of the galaxy and then convert back into a photon. These are all mediated by how strongly the axion interacts with electromagnetism, which allows it to then 'convert' into photons and vice versa."

convert?

Ummmmm... plasma instabilities maybe?

PLASMA DOUBLE LAYERS BIRKELAND CURRENTS

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[Sol88]

Looks like GAS is like PLASMA is still mainstreams biggest issue.

ziggurat for one is very passionate we can use GAS and PLASMA interchangeably. Leads to skewwhiffy results.

Round peg, square hole kinda analogy.

 

[Ziggurat]

ziggurat for one is very passionate we can use GAS and PLASMA interchangeably.

No. That is absolutely not my position. You can never get anything right.

 

[Ziggurat]

The Black holes/Magnatar/AGN/Pulsars ELECTRIC FIELD. The one causing the SYNCHROTRON signature.

Oh. The one you made up, because you don't understand how synchrotron radiation or even gravity works. Got it.

 

[Sol88]

No. That is absolutely not my position. You can never get anything right.

Apologies, rectangles are polygons and GAS is kinda like PLASMA...So what is your position on PLASMA then?

Oh. The one you made up, because you don't understand how synchrotron radiation or even gravity works. Got it.

Nah, all good this side mate. You do your GAS and Gravity. Easy maths.

Synchrotron radiation in a PLASMA is fascinating in it self. The raw power involved is mind blowing, though I'm more the FIELD ALIGNED kinda fan. Poor ELECTRONS always get a back seat to the IONS. ELECTRONS are the charge carriers.

Do you remember those STRONG MAGNETIC FIELDS caused by ELECTRIC CURRENTS through PLASMA, ziggurat? You know, those ones?

What's the extent of the circuit?

We have now observed those filaments over quite the distance now.

,

 

[Ziggurat]

Apologies, rectangles are polygons and GAS is kinda like PLASMA...So what is your position on PLASMA then?

My position as a candidate for office is that any plasma capable of working who chooses not to work should not receive welfare.

Seriously though, ask a better question.

Synchrotron radiation in a PLASMA is fascinating in it self.

Not particularly. Synchrotron radiation isn't a collective behavior, it's a single particle behavior.

 

[Sol88]

My position as a candidate for office is that any plasma capable of working who chooses not to work should not receive welfare.

Seriously though, ask a better question.

Not particularly. Synchrotron radiation isn't a collective behavior, it's a single particle behavior.

Right, so BIRKELAND CURRENTS then (FAC's)



but how interesting are spiraling ELECTRONS, ACCELERATED by an ELECTRIC FIELD...

How does Gravity accelerate plasma again, ziggurat.

 

[Ziggurat]

How does Gravity accelerate plasma again, ziggurat.

The same way it accelerates everything else that has mass. Your ignorance is a colossal majesty, immeasurable in breadth and incomprehensible in depth.

 

[Sol88]

Your good at this...since it's all you have left.

Did you get the thesaurus out?

So, how are those strong magnetic fields formed by gravity again?

Rich coming from you, ignorance is strong with you, 'ol mate!

Lets do that GAS is like PLASMA thing again. That was fun.

"What properties does PLASMA have that GAS does not?", ziggurat.

Make ya look silly again.

 

[Sol88]

The same way it accelerates everything else that has mass. Your ignorance is a colossal majesty, immeasurable in breadth and incomprehensible in depth.

Ahhhhhh..... did you have an apple fall on your head when you were young?

 

[Ziggurat]

Ahhhhhh..... did you have an apple fall on your head when you were young?

Although the Newton and the apple story is apocryphal, the standard version most people know isn't the original version. The standard version makes no sense, the original does. I doubt you know the original version, nor do I expect you would understand it even if you did.