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Dreadful days are coming

Emre_1974tr said:
Yes, medicine science in the market is fake, astronomy in the market is fake, psychiatry in the market is fake, religious teachings in the market are also presented to people in fake form by people who are called experts.

By the way, it seems that they have decided to explain the reality of Nibiru:

https://www.iflscience.com/astronom...sive-object-beyond-the-orbit-of-neptune-73914
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What is the purpose of a citation when you've just declared that they're all fakes? What differentiates them from them?

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Emre_1974tr said:
It is claimed here that the Nemesis or Nibiru mini-planet system also has a black hole.

https://www.atalaryolu.com/?pgid=lq1anb98-92a50c33-58a8-417f-8730-50e2f7436864
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Do you understand that this is not considered science, Emre? No one here believes in Nibiru by any name. The Zetan movement was a fringe organization led by a crackpot named Nancy Lieder who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. There is no evidence for any of her claims, including the unrelated astronomical photos that the Nibiru cult once put forward.

I understand your ongoing confrontation of science from your religion's perspective, but you need to take better care of what you're claiming to be science.
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
https://emre1974tr-blogspot-com.tra..._sch=http&_x_tr_sl=tr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=tr

And they got the red cows ready:

https://twitter.com/RashadLana18915/status/1768776184945578489?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
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Yes, these few fringe crackpots have been going on about this for decades now. But this is not mainstream Judaism or even slightly related to Christianity. And therefore your rambling, incoherent essay is not especially supported by what's going on.

Every religion has its outliers and fanatics. Wouldn't you agree?
 
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But it made for a passable tv miniseries mystery called Dig from 2015 (had to search to remember the title. ;). ).
Red heifer indeed. [emoji38]
 
bruto said:
What is the purpose of a citation when you've just declared that they're all fakes? What differentiates them from them?

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I'm not saying they are all fake.

For example, I am not saying stay away from vaccines, I am saying stay away from new vaccines.

I am not saying that all religions are fake, I am saying that experts are faking.

And I am saying that something can be in the hands of well-intentioned people in the beginning and then it can fall into the hands of evil forces. If you surrender your mind to a system based on a chain of command and to so-called experts, they will make you adopt every superstition and even destroy you with fake vaccines like mrna gene therapy.
 
JayUtah said:
Do you understand that this is not considered science, Emre? No one here believes in Nibiru by any name. The Zetan movement was a fringe organization led by a crackpot named Nancy Lieder who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. There is no evidence for any of her claims, including the unrelated astronomical photos that the Nibiru cult once put forward.

I understand your ongoing confrontation of science from your religion's perspective, but you need to take better care of what you're claiming to be science.
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Good old zetababble lol

I haven't looked at it in years, I am (not) surprised it is still going though- although its heydays of the 2003/2005/2010/2012/2015/2018 'ends of the worlds' all passed (unsurprisingly) with nothing happening, she is still posting zetababbles with a couple of devotees (and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are all just her anyway)

Be interesting to see if all activity stops when she shuffles off this mortal coil lol (that should show how many of the few posters left 'asking questions' are really just her)
She can't have much time left in her by now- she wasn't exactly a spring chicken back in 2003... (she looked like she was at least into her 40's or 50's then...)

Just had a brief look at the Ning, its limping along with the same old nonsense (X is 'still' hanging around the earth, still stalled, and still causing earthquakes, ship crashes and train crashes

zetatalk itself looks to be pretty much dead in the water, with only links to the Nings trickle of activities the only real updates in years...
I didn't even remember the 20 year anniversary of 'planet X's arrival'...

Hell it would nearly be time for its 'second' coming by now
 
Emre_1974tr said:
I'm not saying they are all fake.

For example, I am not saying stay away from vaccines, I am saying stay away from new vaccines.

I am not saying that all religions are fake, I am saying that experts are faking.

And I am saying that something can be in the hands of well-intentioned people in the beginning and then it can fall into the hands of evil forces. If you surrender your mind to a system based on a chain of command and to so-called experts, they will make you adopt every superstition and even destroy you with fake vaccines like mrna gene therapy.
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Regarding mRNA vaccines, these are not new. They are over 30 years, one third of a century, in testing before the pandemic. They had a remarkable success rate in slowing COVID considerably. And COVID is not the only virus the tech has been used for. Now they are being used against various types of cancers.

Also, there are over 4.5 million people who refused to be vaccinated, or had no access to the vaccine, who died as a result. Many were devout Muslims. But not even Allah could save them.
 
Two years ago, according to Emre's OP, Nibiru, plus Covid vaccines, could lead to WWIII and a decrease in the world's population.
Those two years have passed, with none of these things happening. Emre: how do you think your prediction is coming along? Looks like a total failure to me.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
I'm not saying they are all fake.

For example, I am not saying stay away from vaccines, I am saying stay away from new vaccines.

I am not saying that all religions are fake, I am saying that experts are faking.

And I am saying that something can be in the hands of well-intentioned people in the beginning and then it can fall into the hands of evil forces. If you surrender your mind to a system based on a chain of command and to so-called experts, they will make you adopt every superstition and even destroy you with fake vaccines like mrna gene therapy.
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and;

Millions have died from fake vaccines and the number is growing exponentially. The picture is getting worse every day.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Millions have died from fake vaccines and the number is growing exponentially. The picture is getting worse every day.
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Questin for the more mathematically-minded among us:
If "millions" have died since the introduction of mRNA Covid vaccines, and that number is increasing exponentially every day, how long will it take before everyone on Earth is dead? I'm guessing no more than a few weeks. Anyone care to do the maths?
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Questin for the more mathematically-minded among us:
If "millions" have died since the introduction of mRNA Covid vaccines, and that number is increasing exponentially every day, how long will it take before everyone on Earth is dead? I'm guessing no more than a few weeks. Anyone care to do the maths?
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Fair guess. If you start with 2 deaths on the first day it would take around 33 days to kill all humans.
 
Today is most definitely not dreadful. Beautiful sunny spring morning. Our 40th anniversary with my lovely wife beside me. And breakfast with real (not the "Turkish" kind ;)) bacon. Bottle of prosecco chilling in the fridge, and out for a great meal together later. Even Emre can't put a damper on this one :xtongue.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
And I am saying that something can be in the hands of well-intentioned people in the beginning and then it can fall into the hands of evil forces. If you surrender your mind to a system based on a chain of command and to so-called experts, they will make you adopt every superstition and even destroy you with fake vaccines like mrna gene therapy.
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And what if we instead apply a system of systematic evidence-gathering and guarded reasoning? Not surrender to it, but test it on toy problems to see how well it performs, and then use it for the real problems—but only insofar as it can rationally apply. And if new evidence comes along, we reapply the method and change our conclusions were necessary to incorporate it.

You seem to regard science as a dogmatic exercise run by imperious experts who simply demand belief. That's religion you're describing. All your problems will be solved if you stopped listening to what religion and political power mongers tell you about science and start listening to what science tells you about science.
 
I don’t come here very often anymore. This is still going? Emre, your silly prediction failed two years ago. Did you ever admit you were wrong?
 
sts60 said:
I don’t come here very often anymore. This is still going? Emre, your silly prediction failed two years ago. Did you ever admit you were wrong?
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Emre is always right. He has a religious book and an invisible sky fairy that tells him so.
 
Georg said:
Evidence?
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It is sad to see that in Western society people have become such sheep and slaves, forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.

How did you go from a civilization that wrote Sherlock Holmes and James Bonds to such leftist and collective robots? Are they putting something in your drinking water?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.
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this describes religion.






PS: My day was fine. A little rainy, but not too much so. Got some work done, but not a lot. Got some reusable parchment paper for baking, which I really needed. Made some chocolate chip cookies, which weren't mind blowing, but will be good enough for milk and cookies. Milk and cookies are obviously Turkish food, but Turkish milk is lemonade and Turkish cookies are popcorn.
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
It is sad to see that in Western society people have become such sheep and slaves, forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.
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It seems your real problem is that we're questioning you.

How did you go from a civilization that wrote Sherlock Holmes and James Bonds to such leftist and collective robots? Are they putting something in your drinking water?
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Nobody let Emre pack the time capsule to bury on the moon for aliens to find a billion years from now.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
It is sad to see that in Western society people have become such sheep and slaves, forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.
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You made a statement. People are asking you for evidence that your claim is true. It appears our ability to question is just as robust as ever. You seem to think we should question only the things you disagree with, not the things you like.

How did you go from a civilization that wrote Sherlock Holmes and James Bonds to such leftist and collective robots? Are they putting something in your drinking water?
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Holmes and Bond are terrible examples of logic and critical thinking. What’s wrong with the left? It’s the ideology of individual dignity and compassion. Aren’t those things your religion values?
 
Steve said:
Fair guess. If you start with 2 deaths on the first day it would take around 33 days to kill all humans.
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Well I've never been great at math, but to be fair it depends on the exponent and the time interval. 't" does not have be equal to one day. I mean a 1% yearly interest account will still grow exponentially, just slowly.
 
stanfr said:
Well I've never been great at math, but to be fair it depends on the exponent and the time interval. 't" does not have be equal to one day. I mean a 1% yearly interest account will still grow exponentially, just slowly.
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Well, Emre started with a base of millions. Seems to me that it would work up into the billions pretty quickly.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
and;

Millions have died from fake vaccines and the number is growing exponentially. The picture is getting worse every day.
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Georg said:
Evidence?
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Emre_1974tr said:
It is sad to see that in Western society people have become such sheep and slaves, forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.

How did you go from a civilization that wrote Sherlock Holmes and James Bonds to such leftist and collective robots? Are they putting something in your drinking water?
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What does that witless drivel have to do with my question?
You are making a claim, and since you post on a skeptics board you should be ready to back up your claims with evidence.
Instead you post some completely unrelated pig crap....

Is "missing the point" also a turkish invention?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
It is sad to see that in Western society people have become such sheep and slaves, forgetting to question, forgetting individuality and humanity.

How did you go from a civilization that wrote Sherlock Holmes and James Bonds to such leftist and collective robots? Are they putting something in your drinking water?
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The problem is that your work isn't good enough. You don't have evidence and you don't understand some very basic concepts.
 
sts60 said:
I don’t come here very often anymore. This is still going? Emre, your silly prediction failed two years ago. Did you ever admit you were wrong?
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I didn’t think he would answer. “Sincere” trolls, like Emre1974tr and DavidC, really believe their silly twaddle, but it’s a brittle belief - they can’t face challenges to their worldview, so skitter away from certain direct questions that bring them too close to the hatch that opens on the real world.

Like ordinary trolls, though, they just keep saying stupid things to irritate the grown-ups into responding. That’s boring. Into the bit-bucket with the other trolls he goes; *plonk*.
 
I would modestly suggest that anyone who considers Holmes and Bond as outstanding examples of Western art and literature is not in a good position to criticize actual Western art and literature.

I note I am not the first to notice this, but would add my voice here.

I know the "exponential" issue has been dealt with, but I would just add that even if we settled for a simple arithmetical increase (n x 2, for example) remember the old chestnut about the chessboard maker who demanded payment of a grain of rice, doubled for each square. By the time he reached the 64'th square, he had long since exceeded the amount of rice on earth. Forget exponential - arithmetic, quadratic or exponential, we'd all have been dead years ago.
 
bruto said:
I would modestly suggest that anyone who considers Holmes and Bond as outstanding examples of Western art and literature is not in a good position to criticize actual Western art and literature.
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It's not clear what Emre considers those characters to be examples of. Popularity is the only metric I think is defensible.

You can certain cite better characters: Atticus Finch, for example. James Bond is a devoted misogynist, among his other amoralities. Sherlock Holmes is a self-medicating recluse with little praise for anyone else's abilities.

From a literature perspective, Holmesian mysteries are written around a tiresome deus ex machina (Holmes' uncanny insight). Conan Doyle himself was not known for his critical thinking skills. Bond characters are inevitably one-dimensional cartoons. The West has certainly produced better writers. I'm partial to Umberto Eco. But even in the pulp fiction genre, Alexander Dumas outshines both Conan Doyle and Fleming.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Speaking of which, this site is a treasure trove for those who love Bond style novels:
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I like the Bond novels. But I wouldn't put them up as a standard for Western culture.

By the way, I am only giving popular examples because the general level of intelligence and culture in this forum is low.
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By whose estimate? By what measure?

You propose that you know enough about Western civilization and culture to be able to comment meaningfully on its supposed decline. If your comments are limited only to the elements of popular culture that have permeated even authoritarian, regressive regimes like Turkey, then you can't really claim to have done a deep enough dive. Maybe the experience of Western civilization is different when you live in it, as we do, versus observing it from afar through a lens of your own bias and imposed limitations.
 
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