Split Thread Conspiracy theories around the Russian invasion of Ukraine

SpitfireIX said:
Then why don't you explain it to us.
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Because he hasn't shelled out to icerat for ISF Forums Premium Gold Plus Special Edition.

So he's allowed to disagree, but not debate. It's especially unfortunate, because subscriptions are closed, and he'll always be a second-class citizen in these threads.

And that is my conspiracy theory about the Russian invasion of Ukraine: It was all a hoax dreamed up by Barack Obama and George Soros, to make Clutch Cargo look foolish in ISF threads.
 
You know there is a not crazy narrative based in the facts leading up to Maiden that does make it seem as though the US more or less sponsored a coup. Clutch doesn't seem willing or able to provide that narrative. I personally don't buy it, but if you were so minded I can understand why some folks believe it. The US does have a history of that sort of thing but then so does Russia/USSR so...Anyrate, I've read it spelled out by other more compelling adherents. I'm glad i have, its useful to see the world from someone with such a different world view and understand that they aren't crazy or just liars but that it would just take a slightly different perspective, and I'd probably believe. I'd try but I don't believe it so I'd be a bad rep.
 
Clutch Cargo said:
If it's raining in the East and the wind is blowing in a westerly direction you can't blame the East for the rain falling in the West tomorrow.
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I don’t understand: the Russians were fighting somebody in the east (I wonder who), and somehow this just developed into an invasion of a country to the west, but fighting is like the weather, and the Russians can’t be blamed for it??
Clutch Cargo said:
Do you know what a "special military operation" is?
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It is a term invented in order to make it look as if there is no war.
 
Well now you have your own thread in the correct section of the board.

Get on with it.
 
Clutch Cargo said:
Putin is kicking ass while Zoolinsky went back to standing behind the piano in the nude.

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Zelenskyy the comedian makes a far better leader of a country than Putin does when he is being serious, don't you think?

Also, what languages do you read and speak? I've asked you multiple times so do you have any answer?
 
Clutch Cargo said:
Do you think invasions are defined by the number of tanks that are owned, applied, set into motion, or where they are placed? You are asking me for my estimate regarding what? I think you are influenced by fear-mongering sources, not by wisdom.
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How do you define "invasion"?
 
Norman Alexander said:
Zelenskyy the comedian makes a far better leader of a country than Putin does when he is being serious, don't you think?
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I've never seen a triple contradiction in one sentence before now. Actually, I am being dishonest because I've only seen three of Zoolinsky's stage performances: His nude piano skit, him dancing in high heel shoes, and him running around the Western World holding a tin cup and crying, "Woe is me!". Maybe he did some other things that were good? Yeah, maybe he did!
Norman Alexander said:
Also, what languages do you read and speak? I've asked you multiple times so do you have any answer?
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Clutch Cargo said:
I've never seen a triple contradiction in one sentence before now. Actually, I am being dishonest because I've only seen three of Zoolinsky's stage performances: His nude piano skit, him dancing in high heel shoes, and him running around the Western World holding a tin cup and crying, "Woe is me!". Maybe he did some other things that were good? Yeah, maybe he did!
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Who is Zoolinsky? Do you mean the President of the independent country of Ukraine, Zelenskyy?
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Clutch Cargo said:
I've never seen a triple contradiction in one sentence before now. Actually, I am being dishonest because I've only seen three of Zoolinsky's stage performances: His nude piano skit, him dancing in high heel shoes, and him running around the Western World holding a tin cup and crying, "Woe is me!". Maybe he did some other things that were good? Yeah, maybe he did!
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Norman Alexander said:
Who is Zoolinsky? Do you mean the President of the independent country of Ukraine, Zelenskyy?
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Damn! This spell checker is acting up again! Yes you're right, the president of Ukraine. Of course I meant to say Zoolinsky.
 
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Clutch Cargo said:
Putin is kicking ass while Zoolinsky went back to standing behind the piano in the nude.
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How is this relevant for anything in this thread? The world – and Russia – would have been much better if Putin had not “kicked ass”. Zelensky has proven a superb leader, and surprise, surprise, he didn’t win the election by sending his opponents in jail like Putin did.
 
steenkh said:
How is this relevant for anything in this thread? The world – and Russia – would have been much better if Putin had not “kicked ass”. Zelensky has proven a superb leader, and surprise, surprise, he didn’t win the election by sending his opponents in jail like Putin did.
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:fail:
 
I'd think that anyone older than 3 years would remember how everyone thought Russia would roll over Ukraine in a few weeks but some a comedian has led his people through 3 years of a war they should have lost at the start. And still some folks think its Putin that is the better leader and statesman. Maybe some folks don't know what it means to kick ass?
 
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ahhell said:
I'd think that anyone older than 3 years would remember how everyone thought Russia would roll over Ukraine in a few weeks
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Putin is not everyone .......
ahhell said:
but some a comedian has led his people through 3 years of a war they should have lost at the start. And still some folks think its Putin that is the better leader and statesman.
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..... Putin is the cat, Zoolinsky is the mouse.
ahhell said:
Maybe some folks don't know what it means to kick ass?
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The ass has been kicked when the last shot has been fired and the terms have been set.
 
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