Boycotting US products.

[catsmate]

You should know that I view unspecified criticism as the tool of a weak mind.

Then stop making inane and inaccurate statements.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

The decades old boycott of US products is what this tariff trade war is all about when you think about it. You don't buy from the US, you sell to the US. That's why you've already lost.

I thought the US exported quite a lot of products, actually. Which countries, specifically, do you claim are boycotting American exports? Why are countries around the world placing tarrifs on US goods if they are boycotting them, and have been for decades?

 

[dann]

As I suspected, you didn't buy any US products or support US workers in any way at all.

This is what I was looking for. A reference to actual physical US made products that are purchased outside the US. I think you realize that amounts to next to nothing. Most will list things like "Streaming Services" or limited statements such as "I won't buy any McDonald's burgers" (hilarious view that a local franchise is supporting US workers) or "I'm giving up my VISA card." (also hilarious example) etc. You get the idea I'm sure. It's become second nature to view things like a McDonald's franchise as supporting the US worker and obviously it's just laughable. Those are not physical products made in the USA and do not support our industrial workers in any way. The trade barriers placed against US products (such as automobiles) to prevent competition with domestics in foreign markets are what President Trump has been addressing. If you're honest with yourself, you know he's right.

There are a couple of things you have misunderstood:
1) People don't buy any U.S. products to "support US workers."
2) People don't boycott U.S. products to harm U.S. workers.
3) Trump doesn't give a ◊◊◊◊ about U.S. workers. All he cares about is himself and people who pay him, i.e. U.S. oligarchs, and those oligarchs own and profit from the stuff that people now boycott, be it Teslas, Coca-Cola or streaming services.

I cancelled my subscriptions to WaPo and Prime, but that was before Trump started the tariff game.
I still buy Coca-Cola Zero, but I may stop if I find another brand that I like. (I can't stand Jolly Cola.)

 

[dann]

The decades old boycott of US products is what this tariff trade war is all about when you think about it. You don't buy from the US, you sell to the US. That's why you've already lost.

This is why you have already lost!

Trump's tariffs on China will soon bring 'irreversible' damage to many American businesses (CNBC, April 12, 2025)
* On Saturday, the Trump administration said it would exempt technology products like the iPhone, PCs and chips from much of the recently imposed Chinese tariffs.
* But for most businesses in the U.S., orders from China are being canceled and Chinese freight being shipped could be abandoned.
* Without a wider pause in the trade war with China, the damage will soon be "irreversible" for U.S. businesses, according to a retail expert, including furniture, toys, apparel, footwear, and sports equipment.

Trump tariffs: Why Trump is losing his trade war with China (Vox, April 25, 2025)
Trade wars are easy to win — if you’re China.

Key commodity exports plunge as Trump's trade war bites (Axios, April 26, 2025)
Sales to China of key commodities, like soybeans and pork, are plunging as the trade war begins to impact the domestic economy.
Why it matters: U.S. farmers export more than $176 billion in agricultural products annually — almost 10% of which is just soybean and pork shipments to China.

• Losing even a fraction of those exports for the long term could be economically devastating.

By the numbers: In the week of April 11-17, net soybean sales were down 50% week over week and down 25% versus the four-week average, per data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Foreign Agricultural Service released Thursday.

• Net pork sales were down 72% week on week and 82% versus the four-week average, the USDA said.

With a graph of U.S. soybean exports to China, 2022 to 2025.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Anyway, it's becoming quite clear that the US has severely overplayed its hand. Many of the things they import just cannot be made in the US, so tariffs will mean that consumers there either pay more or just do not get what they want. And if the US does not import it, there seem to be enough markets where stuff can still be sold. And the counter tariffs just means most of the world will import things like farm staples from other countries.

As an aside, how do the tariffs (which are a tax on US consumers to enrich the US government) stack up to the taxes that sparked the US revolution?

 

[Blue Mountain]

Anyway, it's becoming quite clear that the US has severely overplayed its hand. Many of the things they import just cannot be made in the US, so tariffs will mean that consumers there either pay more or just do not get what they want. And if the US does not import it, there seem to be enough markets where stuff can still be sold. And the counter tariffs just means most of the world will import things like farm staples from other countries.

As an aside, how do the tariffs (which are a tax on US consumers to enrich the US government) stack up to the taxes that sparked the US revolution?

Those taxes were imposed by a government on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, which didn't sit well with the colonial population.

 

[Orphia Nay]

As an aside, how do the tariffs (which are a tax on US consumers to enrich the US government) stack up to the taxes that sparked the US revolution?

US Consumers are being sold the idea that the tariffs are paid by the country of the product's origin.

How soon will they realise they (the consumer) are actually paying for the cost of the tariffs?

That will depend on the narratives they continue to be exposed to, and general levels of stupidity or intelligence.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Those taxes were imposed by a government on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, which didn't sit well with the colonial population.

Oh true. but they are now being imposed to pay for extra money for a few billionaires. Then again, at that time the press did not outright lie to the people, so I guess there is that,

 

[The Don]

US Consumers are being sold the idea that the tariffs are paid by the country of the product's origin.

How soon will they realise they (the consumer) are actually paying for the cost of the tariffs?
That will depend on the narratives they continue to be exposed to, and general levels of stupidity or intelligence.

For Republicans and those inhabiting a right wing media bubble, the answer is "Never".

If prices rise then the price rises will be blamed on foreign powers taking advantage of the US, retailers profiteering and shadowy figures pulling the strings behind the scenes to hamstring their glorious leader.

 

[Norman Alexander]

For Republicans and those inhabiting a right wing media bubble, the answer is "Never".

If prices rise then the price rises will be blamed on foreign powers taking advantage of the US, retailers profiteering and shadowy figures pulling the strings behind the scenes to hamstring their glorious leader.

The answer is more likely to be "Lalalalalalala! I can't hear you!!"

 

[Blue Mountain]

For Republicans and those inhabiting a right wing media bubble, the answer is "Never".

If prices rise then the price rises will be blamed on foreign powers taking advantage of the US, retailers profiteering and shadowy figures pulling the strings behind the scenes to hamstring their glorious leader.

This has been covered elsewhere, but one dairy framer in update New York found out directly:

Upstate NY farmer shocked by Trump tariffs, mistakenly thought Canada would pay

Small businesses along the Canadian border are especially being hit hard.

www.newyorkupstate.com

We don't know if he actually voted for Trump but given his reaction ("Is this even legal?") it's a good bet he did.

 

[dann]

'Detrumpify yourself': French app flags US companies in European boycott (CNN on YouTube, May 3, 2025 -8:58 min.)
Senior Paris correspondent Melissa Bell reports the use of a French app designed to flag goods from the United States in an effort to boycott American products.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

This has been covered elsewhere, but one dairy framer in update New York found out directly:

Upstate NY farmer shocked by Trump tariffs, mistakenly thought Canada would pay

Small businesses along the Canadian border are especially being hit hard.

www.newyorkupstate.com

We don't know if he actually voted for Trump but given his reaction ("Is this even legal?") it's a good bet he did.

I would say that if the lad doesn't even understand basic economics, stuff I was learning at 12, I'd be significantly worried over the welfare of his cattle.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I would say that if the lad doesn't even understand basic economics, stuff I was learning at 12, I'd be significantly worried over the welfare of his cattle.

Surely the cows pay the tariffs?