Boycotting US products.

Are you boycotting US products?

  • Yes, as much as possible.

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • Yes, but only certain products.

    Votes: 9 22.5%

  • No.

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Don't care.

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • On Planet X we're all Americans so resistance is futile!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    40
The Great Zaganza said:
The US market is interesting to exporters because Americans are willing to buy inferior products on credit.

But Asia is a far more important market.
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India and Chinas own internal markets are huge in comparison to the US, and both are rapidly growing as well (many yanks seem to be under the impression that the average Chinese person is still wading barefoot in a rice paddy or pulling a rickshaw, when in reality, most Chinese cities already put any US city to shame....)

Africa is another rapidly expanding market, and one the Chinese already have a huge presence in (5G coverage in Africa puts most western countries to shame, including our own Australian coverage- as well as many rapidly growing cities... and Australia is still debating about a single highspeed train corridor, while the Chinese have FLEETS of them...)

Even Europe (taken as a whole) is equal to the US market, if not larger than it...

Basically, the US is losing its appeal as an export market (it was already becoming less attractive to most manufacturers worldwide, trumps tariffs and other shenanigans have made it much less so....
 
Dabop said:
India and Chinas own internal markets are huge in comparison to the US, and both are rapidly growing as well (many yanks seem to be under the impression that the average Chinese person is still wading barefoot in a rice paddy or pulling a rickshaw, when in reality, most Chinese cities already put any US city to shame....)
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China is Australia's biggest export partner by far. Six times as much as we export to the USA.

List of the largest trading partners of Australia - Wikipedia

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Dabop said:
Africa is another rapidly expanding market, and one the Chinese already have a huge presence in (5G coverage in Africa puts most western countries to shame, including our own Australian coverage- as well as many rapidly growing cities... and Australia is still debating about a single highspeed train corridor, while the Chinese have FLEETS of them...)
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If we ever get high speed trains, they will likely be made in China not the USA. FYI, Sydney's latest suburban trains were made in China.
Dabop said:
Even Europe (taken as a whole) is equal to the US market, if not larger than it...
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Larger. See above.
Dabop said:
Basically, the US is losing its appeal as an export market (it was already becoming less attractive to most manufacturers worldwide, trumps tariffs and other shenanigans have made it much less so....
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You put up with this crap only for so long. Plenty of markets for our products elsewhere, and theirs for us.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
It sounds as if someone fell for that card the Trumpists held up, listing hundreds of percent tariffs other countries supposedly charge the US to export stuff.

Remember the one? With the Japanese supposedly charging something crazy like 700% on US rice imports? Except the truth is they charge zero tariff. The 700% is an anti-dumping measure which only kicks in on imports greater than 6kg of rice for every man, woman and child in Japan. (How much rice do you buy in a year? Over 13lb?) The US actually sells Japan about half as much as that, and faces zero tariff to do so.
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Same thing with Canada's 400% duty on dairy imports. Us imports do not come close to hitting this anti-dumping numbers Actual imports have (had) a zero duty though an import licence is required.
 
Canada should stop selling pharmaceuticals to visiting Americans at local Canadian prices. Instead, they should charge them the prevailing American prices. Cross-border visits for "cheap Canadian drugs" has been a racket for a long time.
 
Thermal said:
I dunno. I think.we have a generational track record of being solid buds to the world, and maybe the occasional wrong president might be tolerated. I don't hate Germany, if you're feeling me there.
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So it once was, but it's not a matter of "once we were awful but now we're not." It's that we're awful and not awful in random spurts, which cannot be predicted.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
We make almost nothing now. Some things we can't produce at all, some things are better done by other countries, and other products have environmental costs we'd rather other people paid instead of us.
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Luckily Trump is working on removing any environmental restrictions on US industry, so a win-win for the US.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
It sounds as if someone fell for that card the Trumpists held up, listing hundreds of percent tariffs other countries supposedly charge the US to export stuff.

Remember the one? With the Japanese supposedly charging something crazy like 700% on US rice imports? Except the truth is they charge zero tariff. The 700% is an anti-dumping measure which only kicks in on imports greater than 6kg of rice for every man, woman and child in Japan. (How much rice do you buy in a year? Over 13lb?) The US actually sells Japan about half as much as that, and faces zero tariff to do so.
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Ah facts, something the Trumpettes don't understand.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Yeah, but we are not going to buy American products any more. We can get better products cheaper elsewhere. You're not the only shop in the market. The USA is not even Australia's biggest trading partner now. In fact, the USA is a distant 4th for us. Soz!

So you can go be sanctimonious all alone and poor on your trash middens. We aren't even going to be your allies and friends for very much longer. We are finding better friends instead.
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I'm curious. What US products were you buying that you will no longer be purchasing?
 
If a boycott goes on for a while it means that people found an alternative and won't come back, boycotts or not.
Tariffs won't change any of that
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I'm curious. What US products were you buying that you will no longer be purchasing?
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There are/were many US products in local grocery stores that I, and many Canadians, now read labels to avoid. A couple of examples among many - strawberries - I will buy local in season or Mexican instead of Californian. Wines - I will miss California Zinfandel a little but there is no shortage of good red wines from all over the globe. Campbell's canned soup - I have replaced with Canadian produced Aylmer's. There is no shortage of long lists of American-made products with non-American alternatives that concerned Canadians have posted online for reference. Yes, I am just one person. But multiply that by millions of Canadians that are shopping selectively and it adds up.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I'm curious. What US products were you buying that you will no longer be purchasing?
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Online retailers and streaming services (no Amazon, Prime and Netflix), US owned FMCG brands (Coke, Mars, Heinz, Coors and so on) and US owned retailers like Costco.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I'm curious. What US products were you buying that you will no longer be purchasing?
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Mostly mining equipment (an already shrinking market for the US) and medical equipment (China and the EU are already picking up that market as well)
Personally, I don't buy hardly anything US made physically, as they simply aren't sold here in the first place...

I did subscribe to a couple of US streaming services (already canceled those btw lol)
 
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Pixel42 said:
Not sure if this counts as a product but I've read that tourism is being badly hit, especially visitors from Canada.
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Unfortunately I have a family wedding in early June otherwise I'd skip the US for the foreseeable future.
 
Steve said:
Seems like ChrisBFRPKY's curiosity has been assuaged.
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I'm not entirely sure what their objective was, to suggest that there's nothing we could boycott (which would make a mockery of US economic might), force us to admit that we weren't prepared to walk the walk, or possibly turn around and suggest that we were cutting off our noses to spite our faces.

I know that the less than £100 a month I'm no longer spending on US goods and services isn't going to bring the Trump administration to heel but it is something I can do.
 
This depends on what you mean. The servers are AFAIK in Sweden, and any losses incurred in the operation (there is no profit) goes to Sweden. But the software, I think, is US.
 
Steve said:
There are/were many US products in local grocery stores that I, and many Canadians, now read labels to avoid. A couple of examples among many - strawberries - I will buy local in season or Mexican instead of Californian. Wines - I will miss California Zinfandel a little but there is no shortage of good red wines from all over the globe. Campbell's canned soup - I have replaced with Canadian produced Aylmer's. There is no shortage of long lists of American-made products with non-American alternatives that concerned Canadians have posted online for reference. Yes, I am just one person. But multiply that by millions of Canadians that are shopping selectively and it adds up.
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Since roughly 90% of Canada's entire population lives within 100 miles of the US border, I would expect your cited examples to be correct and true. Decoupling from the US will be difficult to achieve for the majority of Canadians but I fully support your right to do so. I have no ill will toward Canadians and fully respect your sovereignty as a Nation.

Though I do think Canada has been overly dependent on the US for its export market. This has much to do with Liberal Government inaction over the past 10 years that has stifled the Canadian economy in my opinion. The lack of any real GDP growth is a direct result of failed leadership and policies that prevent or slow economic growth, and before you ask specifically I'm referring to those policies like the "Carbon tax".

While your zeal for boycotting US products is admirable, please keep in mind the population of Canada is just a bit more than the state of California. It is unlikely to have any lasting effect on the US economy other than some positive coverage in Liberal leaning Media excerpts. (Which have proven to be highly untrustworthy for legitimate sources of information) In most cases for example, if Campbell's Soup company reported any losses from a boycott, Trump supporters will simply add a few extra cans to their shopping carts.
 
Dabop said:
Mostly mining equipment (an already shrinking market for the US) and medical equipment (China and the EU are already picking up that market as well)
Personally, I don't buy hardly anything US made physically, as they simply aren't sold here in the first place...

I did subscribe to a couple of US streaming services (already canceled those btw lol)
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This is what I was looking for. A reference to actual physical US made products that are purchased outside the US. I think you realize that amounts to next to nothing. Most will list things like "Streaming Services" or limited statements such as "I won't buy any McDonald's burgers" (hilarious view that a local franchise is supporting US workers) or "I'm giving up my VISA card." (also hilarious example) etc. You get the idea I'm sure. It's become second nature to view things like a McDonald's franchise as supporting the US worker and obviously it's just laughable. Those are not physical products made in the USA and do not support our industrial workers in any way. The trade barriers placed against US products (such as automobiles) to prevent competition with domestics in foreign markets are what President Trump has been addressing. If you're honest with yourself, you know he's right.
 
Norman Alexander said:
You really don't have a clue, do you.

See if you can name a US industry that contributes over $2.3 trillion to the US economy every year. There is one. Can you name it?
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Ah, beginning your response with an insult. You've already lost the argument.
I'm not fond of engaging in "Google-foo contests" with insulting individuals. So let's just say that whatever US industry you have picked out would be more without trade barriers placed against US products and leave it at that. See how that works?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Ah, beginning your response with an insult. You've already lost the argument.
I'm not fond of engaging in "Google-foo contests" with insulting individuals. So let's just say that whatever US industry you have picked out would be more without trade barriers placed against US products and leave it at that. See how that works?
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So you don't know what this $2.3 trillion dollar US-only industry is? That provides incomes and livelihoods for millions Americans across your country? And which is currently suffering a major downturn due to global boycotts? People are losing their jobs over this. No incomes, no health insurance, unable to pay mortgages and loans. It's an untold horror story, and the Trump admin doesn't give a flying ◊◊◊◊.

Still can't guess it?
 
Norman Alexander said:
So you don't know what this $2.3 trillion dollar US-only industry is? That provides incomes and livelihoods for millions Americans across your country? And which is currently suffering a major downturn due to global boycotts? People are losing their jobs over this. No incomes, no health insurance, unable to pay mortgages and loans. It's an untold horror story, and the Trump admin doesn't give a flying ◊◊◊◊.

Still can't guess it?
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Oh my dear, the US just added 248K new jobs in March. Whatever you're trying to sell is likely fake merchandise and I don't buy that.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Oh my dear, the US just added 248K new jobs in March. Whatever you're trying to sell is likely fake merchandise and I don't buy that.
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Oooh! 228K, actually. That's an increase of...[does sums]...sweet bugger all. So small that it didn't make an iota of difference.
Employment Rate in the United States remained unchanged at 59.90 percent in March.
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United States Employment Rate

Employment Rate in the United States decreased to 59.70 percent in May from 60 percent in April of 2025. This page provides - United States Employment Rate- actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.
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Pixel42 said:
www.theguardian.com

US to miss out on billions as Trump’s policies deter overseas tourists

Number of visitors sinks 11.6% in March as deportations and tariffs make US a less appealing destination
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Thanks, Pixel42. You are quite insightful. Clearly tourism is a US product that Chris has trouble seeing as valuable. But it's 3% of the US economy, and employs nearly 10 million jobs. And it's in serious trouble due to Trump.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Oh my dear, the US just added 248K new jobs in March. Whatever you're trying to sell is likely fake merchandise and I don't buy that.
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That's interesting, what's the par score ?

ISTM that as the weather improves a lot of industries, tourism, construction, agriculture are hiring so does the 250k represent a glowing endorsement of Trump's economic policies or the typical seasonal fluctuation ?

A quick Google of the last few years shows that it's not the worst (as long as we're talking non-farm jobs, though the March 2025 jobs report gives 228k which is below par) but well below the best.
 
The Don said:
That's interesting, what's the par score ?

ISTM that as the weather improves a lot of industries, tourism, construction, agriculture are hiring so does the 250k represent a glowing endorsement of Trump's economic policies or the typical seasonal fluctuation ?

A quick Google of the last few years shows that it's not the worst (as long as we're talking non-farm jobs, though the March 2025 jobs report gives 228k which is below par) but well below the best.
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Because the "adding new jobs" rate is probably way less than the "left the job because: retired, fired, company folded, moved overseas to a better job" rate.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
This is what I was looking for. A reference to actual physical US made products that are purchased outside the US. I think you realize that amounts to next to nothing. Most will list things like "Streaming Services" or limited statements such as "I won't buy any McDonald's burgers" (hilarious view that a local franchise is supporting US workers) or "I'm giving up my VISA card." (also hilarious example) etc. You get the idea I'm sure. It's become second nature to view things like a McDonald's franchise as supporting the US worker and obviously it's just laughable. Those are not physical products made in the USA and do not support our industrial workers in any way. The trade barriers placed against US products (such as automobiles) to prevent competition with domestics in foreign markets are what President Trump has been addressing. If you're honest with yourself, you know he's right.
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PMSL...
Well I 'did' actually drop my US based streaming services (and next month am changing to EUtelsat for my internet access instead of starlink once the contract is up... (its actually better value than starlink now anyway- just as fast, and with starlink slashing their datacap before capping , is actually far better value to boot lol)

The US made 'cars' are a standing joke worldwide- too expensive, both to buy and run, and their 'reliability' (or lack of it) is a joke....
(even here in Australia, US made vehicles are either simply not available at all, or have a solid reputation as 'lemons' lol)

Teslas arent made in the US anyway- the RHD version we get is made in China or Germany, using BYD batteries even- and their sales have fallen off a cliff (probably the best place for them)- their repair costs are horrendous, their parts availability is notoriously bad, and the other EV's are surging ahead- tesla sales have dropped over 70% here, while every other brands have increased....

trumps NEVER right lol- only the most dimwitted of his cult actually think that... he's a standing joke worldwide, and his 'trade efforts' have been as successful as any of his previous businesses ie he's running the US into bankruptcy, he's already made the US totally powerless when it comes to political power, its 'wishes' are being ignored by most countries totally...

I'm not the one being 'dishonest' with themselves here....
 
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