Boycotting US products.

Are you boycotting US products?

  • Yes, as much as possible.

    Votes: 21 52.5%
  • Yes, but only certain products.

    Votes: 9 22.5%
  • No.

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • Don't care.

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • On Planet X we're all Americans so resistance is futile!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    40
Not being able to do the right thing isn't a good excuse for doing the wrong thing instead.
It's not the "wrong" thing. All Americans need to feel the consequences of their leader's actions, whether they voted for him or not.

Presumably it's the relatively slow pace (up until recently) of the decline in standards of the USA's politics that means most of you don't get how dire your situation is.

YOUR PRESIDENT IS QUOTING RUSSIAN PROPOGANDA AS FACT TO YOU.

Wake the **** up.
 
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And how, precisely, are citizens of foreign countries supposed to "target" Trump himself, and not the US? What effective actions could they take?

I'm dismissing "thoughts and prayers" from consideration, as well as "snarky remarks on the internet" as being the left-wing equivalent of that.
As I suggested. Targeted boycotts of companies that openly support Trump. Starting from the low hanging fruit, Tesla and other Muskrat entities.

{Eta: and even that is hurting the Tesla worker who may hate Musk but is passionate about helping the environment and lowering emissions with electric cars}

I mean, does anybody seriously think boycotting American products will affect Trump or his actions even in theory? He'll just blame others for any fallout, and double down. He doesn't care if he does damage, and will accept no responsibility.

But as I conceded above, seeing USA on goods when the leader off the USA is being a total douche to your entire nation is I guess the reasonable reaction. I just hope that eventually our trading partners realize this administration is an anomaly, not the heart and soul of the United States, and we'll be able to mend stuff later.
 
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As I suggested. Targeted boycotts of companies that openly support Trump. Starting from the low hanging fruit, Tesla and other Muskrat entities.

I mean, does anybody seriously think boycotting American products will affect Trump or his actions even in theory? He'll just blame others for any fallout, and double down. He doesn't care if he does damage, and will accept no responsibility.

But as I conceded above, seeing USA on goods when the leader off the USA is being a total douche to your entire nation is I guess the reasonable reaction. I just hope that eventually our trading partners realize this administration is an anomaly, not the heart and soul of the United States, and
we'll be able to mend stuff later.
The rot is so deep I doubt it. The problem is you have a right-wing party and an ever more extreme right-wing party to chose from. Both only have policies that make the average American's life worse by funnelling what wealth they have to the ultra-wealthy. Most of them are owned by the wealthy.

If Burney Sanders or someone like him got elected, maybe you'd have someone to bring the pendulum back towards the centre ground. But I don't see that ever happening.
 
The rot is so deep I doubt it. The problem is you have a right-wing party and an ever more extreme right-wing party to chose from. Both only have policies that make the average American's life worse by funnelling what wealth they have to the ultra-wealthy. Most of them are owned by the wealthy.
Much as it loathes me to agree, I do.
If Burney Sanders or someone like him got elected, maybe you'd have someone to bring the pendulum back towards the centre ground. But I don't see that ever happening.
Senator Sanders had a hell of a lot of support during the run-up to the 2016 election (some say he should have gotten the Democrat nomination). And he's as feisty as ever, but he is getting up there in years. Representative Ocasio-Cortez is taking up the mantle, but is still likely too young to gain the support she would need.

If we could just get someone to take the best that the Left and Right have to offer, we'd be in business.
 
Much as it loathes me to agree, I do.

Senator Sanders had a hell of a lot of support during the run-up to the 2016 election (some say he should have gotten the Democrat nomination). And he's as feisty as ever, but he is getting up there in years. Representative Ocasio-Cortez is taking up the mantle, but is still likely too young to gain the support she would need.

If we could just get someone to take the best that the Left and Right have to offer, we'd be in business.
I wish you luck!
 
Danskere giver hinanden gode råd til at undgå amerikanske varer på sociale medier (DR.dk, Feb 7, 2025)
Skift Coca-Cola ud med Harboe Cola, Burger King med Sunset Boulevard og Heinz Ketchup med Beauvais.
Danes share advice on social media about avoiding American products
Buy Harboe Cola instead of Coca-Cola, Sunset Boulevard instead of Burger King, and Beauvais Ketchup instead of Heinz.

Vil du boykotte amerikanske varer? Nu sætter dagligvarekæmpe sort stjerne ved europæiske varer (DR.dk, Feb 27, 2025)
Do you want to boycott American products? A huge supermarket chain marks European products with a black star
 
As I suggested. Targeted boycotts of companies that openly support Trump. Starting from the low hanging fruit, Tesla and other Muskrat entities.

{Eta: and even that is hurting the Tesla worker who may hate Musk but is passionate about helping the environment and lowering emissions with electric cars}

I mean, does anybody seriously think boycotting American products will affect Trump or his actions even in theory? He'll just blame others for any fallout, and double down. He doesn't care if he does damage, and will accept no responsibility.

But as I conceded above, seeing USA on goods when the leader off the USA is being a total douche to your entire nation is I guess the reasonable reaction. I just hope that eventually our trading partners realize this administration is an anomaly, not the heart and soul of the United States, and we'll be able to mend stuff later.
I think there's a more important reason for a boycott than to "punish" Trump or his cronies financially: to spur countries to develop things domestically. The US has proven it cannot be trusted. It will lie, it will cheat, it will attempt to wring one-sided advantages, it will not honor agreements. Every country on earth that can do so should take every reasonable step to become as independent as possible of the US and its trade, its defense agreements, everything. Their security and prosperity should not be reliant in on what has demonstrated itself to be unreliable.
 
I think there's a more important reason for a boycott than to "punish" Trump or his cronies financially: to spur countries to develop things domestically. The US has proven it cannot be trusted. It will lie, it will cheat, it will attempt to wring one-sided advantages, it will not honor agreements. Every country on earth that can do so should take every reasonable step to become as independent as possible of the US and its trade, its defense agreements, everything. Their security and prosperity should not be reliant in on what has demonstrated itself to be unreliable.
I dunno. I think.we have a generational track record of being solid buds to the world, and maybe the occasional wrong president might be tolerated. I don't hate Germany, if you're feeling me there.
 
Of course, Trump will force most countries to auto boycott US products anyway once he starts his tariffs again. The counter tariffs will make US products more expensive and thus less likely to be bought.
The US can probably win a trade war against most countries individually. But against the EU, Canada, Mexico and China at the same time?
 
I wonder if American retailers sold all Canadian products at a standing 25% off, if that would help or hurt? It would sting on the seller, but they run sales like that day after day, so maybe tolerable?
 
Data show Tesla sales declined sharply in Europe (NPR, Feb 27, 2025)
Data released this week by the European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (ACEA) show that Tesla registrations in the European Union, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Switzerland and the U.K. dropped by 45% in a head-to-head comparison between January 2024 and January 2025. (Registrations are a closely tracked indicator of sales.)

In this photo, a silver Tesla Cybertruck is parked outdoors for display at a Tesla dealership in Corte Madera, California.
That's a precipitous decline, and it comes even as electric vehicle sales overall were increasing in the region — up 37% in the same time frame.
Data previously released in individual nations covering the same period also showed that Tesla sales were down nearly 60% in Germany, Europe's largest EV market, with large decreases also evident in France and Norway.
Also in Denmark. Musk is not the only reason:
Tesla-salget styrtdykker – men årsagen er ikke den, som mange tror (TV2.dk, Feb 25, 2025)
The Tesla sale is nosediving - but the cause is not what many people think
 
I dunno. I think.we have a generational track record of being solid buds to the world, and maybe the occasional wrong president might be tolerated. I don't hate Germany, if you're feeling me there.
Do you know any insane people? I mean actually, literally, medically-diagnosed insane? Whatever they were like before, whatever they were like "really, inside", you have to treat them as they are now. Or they could end up hurt or dead, or you could end up hurt or dead, or other completely innocent parties can end up hurt or dead. It doesn't have to be their fault they've changed, you cannot ignore the change out of politeness, or gratitude for the past, or for love.
 
Of course, Trump will force most countries to auto boycott US products anyway once he starts his tariffs again. The counter tariffs will make US products more expensive and thus less likely to be bought.
The US can probably win a trade war against most countries individually. But against the EU, Canada, Mexico and China at the same time?
If Trump goes through with his plan for blanket tariffs on multiple countries at the same time then that will be very inflationary for the US economy.

The US might then find the rest of the world considers it too much trouble to trade with it compared to each other.
 
Do you know any insane people? I mean actually, literally, medically-diagnosed insane? Whatever they were like before, whatever they were like "really, inside", you have to treat them as they are now. Or they could end up hurt or dead, or you could end up hurt or dead, or other completely innocent parties can end up hurt or dead. It doesn't have to be their fault they've changed, you cannot ignore the change out of politeness, or gratitude for the past, or for love.
Continuing the analogy, for the enjoyment of theprestige: if you have, say, one orange member of the family that has lost it, do you lock up his kids and grandkids and nephews and third cousins twice removed, too?

Or back to our brethren in Germany or Japan: are they irredeemable in perpetuity, too? Back to our whacky family member: sever all ties with him and his descendants forever because of a brief and passing mental breakdown?

Eta: also, when my grandparents came down with Alzhiemers/dementia, I loved them just as much when they didn't even recognize me anymore. But countries can bounce back.
 
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Yes, punishing Canadian retailers and their employees is totally waging economic war on the US.

Why not burn down a Loblaw's, to punish them for doing business with Perfidious Columbia? Punish their insurer too, for the treachery inherent in insuring someone who does business with the enemy.

But first, of course, punish the poor Canadians who dare to take the traitor's dollar in exchange for cleaning up after your tanty.
Donald? Donald Trump? Is that you? Sure sounds like the way you think! And talk! Didn't work on Zelensky and it won't work here.
 
Continuing the analogy, for the enjoyment of theprestige: if you have, say, one orange member of the family that has lost it, do you lock up his kids and grandkids and nephews and third cousins twice removed, too?

Or back to our brethren in Germany or Japan: are they irredeemable in perpetuity, too? Back to our whacky family member: sever all ties with him and his descendants forever because of a brief and passing mental breakdown?
The orange member of the family controls the family's army of savage dogs, the family's array of nuclear weapons, the family's fortunes of money, the family's legal business, the family's array of lawyers, and has a cabal of cronies who buy into and encourage every bit of insanity the orange one manifests because they benefit. Sorry, rest of the family, you're victims and you cannot be saved.

It is not the duty of the neighbors to die in the fire when the orange one burns his house down with his family inside.
 
The orange member of the family controls the family's army of savage dogs, the family's array of nuclear weapons, the family's fortunes of money, the family's legal business, the family's array of lawyers, and has a cabal of cronies who buy into and encourage every bit of insanity the orange one manifests because they benefit. Sorry, rest of the family, you're victims and you cannot be saved.

It is not the duty of the neighbors to die in the fire when the orange one burns his house down with his family inside.
Ok, but I really think we are stretching the analogy a bit if we are suggesting Trump is going to nuke Canada. Or even be in fact the one who let the dogs out.
 
Ok, but I really think we are stretching the analogy a bit if we are suggesting Trump is going to nuke Canada. Or even be in fact the one who let the dogs out.
My point was that the neighbors do not have the power to save the others, they can only act to mitigate the damage to themselves.
 
My point was that the neighbors do not have the power to save the others, they can only act to mitigate the damage to themselves.
Tell that to Allied Forces in WWII.

I'm getting in on the ground floor of the Canada-US Black Market trade. I'll be smuggling maple syrup tax and tariffs free. Maybe I'll give it out for free, like Kris did in the Burgermeister's town. I'll need a startup kitty. How's your cash sitch?
 
The vandalism in question was described as real and to some extent desirable, in this thread.
Well then I am sure that you will point us to a reliable news article on it. Surely you wouldn't just believe such a bizarre claim. That would be too much like MAGArat behaviour.
 
Well then I am sure that you will point us to a reliable news article on it. Surely you wouldn't just believe such a bizarre claim. That would be too much like MAGArat behaviour.
A person in this thread admitted to doing it, and said they'd seen others doing it. That's who and what I was replying to.
 
As eighty years of American power crumbles away the important thing is that we clutch pearls over rudeness to cereal boxes in Canadian stores. Russian imperialism is nothing, what matters is vandalism! *clutches pearls so hard they explode and send everyone flying backwards onto fainting couches*
 
Fwiw, I don't support vandalism on other peoples property at all. I also don't just boycott American companies. My favorite shoe brand fx. is Ecco, a Danish company, but they decided to stay in Russia so they're on my naughty list too.
 
As eighty years of American power crumbles away the important thing is that we clutch pearls over rudeness to cereal boxes in Canadian stores. Russian imperialism is nothing, what matters is vandalism! *clutches pearls so hard they explode and send everyone flying backwards onto fainting couches*
I think a thread about boycotting is a good place to draw a bright ethical line between boycots and vandalism - if someone is mentioning both in the same breath.

I also think that people who vandalize their own community because they're having a Trump tanty are part of the problem.
 
I think a thread about boycotting is a good place to draw a bright ethical line between boycots and vandalism - if someone is mentioning both in the same breath.

I also think that people who vandalize their own community because they're having a Trump tanty are part of the problem.
I'm sure you'll be credited in the afterlife for all that virtue.
 
A person in this thread admitted to doing it, and said they'd seen others doing it. That's who and what I was replying to.
No...you're flat out lying. I said that some people had resorted to that. I didn't say I approved of it and I explicitly said in a subsequent post that I didn't think it was the best way to punish america.

Try to stick to the facts.

You took one sentence out of a longer post and turned it into a straw man that you can chop down. If you wonder why you are subject to so much ridicule on this forum, its because you argue in bad faith.
 
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No...you're flat out lying. I said that some people had resorted to that. I didn't say I approved of it and I explicitly said in a subsequent post that I didn't think it was the best way to punish america.

Try to stick to the facts.

You took one sentence out of a longer post and turned it into a straw man that you can chop down. If you wonder why you are subject to so much ridicule on this forum, its because you argue in bad faith.
The same tactics that MAGArats use to get low intelligence Americans to vote for them.
 
I'm extremely amused by the people who are suggesting buying Chinese goods instead of American because they don't like Trump.
 

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