Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10

So far, still managing to keep all unwanted MS services and features turned off in each version release, so not too worried about the OS in that regard. For when the day comes to jump ship, those interested in gaming on Linux might find this short benchmark video comparing Win10 to three distros, all of which do well.

I am more concerned at the moment with iGPUs catching up to GPUs for workstation tasks, such as running SolidWorks with good performance. The Arc 140T doesn't seem to have data available in that regard so far, but it is brand new. On single core and multi-core performance, the Core 9 Ultra 285S seems to be quite competitive, leading in both. In mobile format, Arrow Lake is even better. Currently drooling over the ROG Zephyrus G16 (2025) GU605 with the 285H and a mobile RTX 5090, OMG. Expensive, but the same combo on desktop is much more.
 
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Skeptical Greg said:
For the OS? Isn't that what is being discussed?
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I didn't think it was just restricted to the OS? If so I would say the evidence is that since Windows 10 MS decided their approach was to "give away" the OS to consumers rather than charge for it as they did in the past, they look to their other software and services for revenue these days.
 
Much more breathless puff on Win 11 than previously. A popup about end of support for Win 10 then link to webpages that are positively rapturously evangelical about Win11 - CoPilot+ goes to 11!!! You can use this CoPilot+ feature and this one!!! And here are more.

Took me a few goes to find the compatibility test tool.

eta: And apparently MS recent updates block the registry hack that allowed you to install on unsupported CPUs.
The laptop passes every other test, just the specific CPU and I'm pretty sure less powerful CPUs are supported - I'm not really a hardware guy though.
 
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Wudang said:
Much more breathless puff on Win 11 than previously. A popup about end of support for Win 10 then link to webpages that are positively rapturously evangelical about Win11 - CoPilot+ goes to 11!!! You can use this CoPilot+ feature and this one!!! And here are more.

Took me a few goes to find the compatibility test tool.

eta: And apparently MS recent updates block the registry hack that allowed you to install on unsupported CPUs.
The laptop passes every other test, just the specific CPU and I'm pretty sure less powerful CPUs are supported - I'm not really a hardware guy though.
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That could be that TPM isn't enabled in your BIOS/UEFI see: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...on-my-pc-b85a6ad9-8430-41c3-85cf-c2bcfc965cdd
 
Last year, I switched from W10 to W11. It absolutely destroyed iTunes. I couldn't play any of my 350GB+ music collection. I had to take the computer to a computer shop and have them rebuild it with W10 instead. I will hold on to W10 for as long as I can.
 
Indeed, I never suggested it was a complete replacement. And I get that when you're invested in the Apple Walled Garden it's hard to break free of it.
 
Wudang said:
Windows versoin changes annoy me as they do stupid random things, at least from my POV. For example in Win 11 the small right-click context menu with most of the things I want now moved (e.g. rename) or moved to "more options". Sure I can fix it with WinAero or regedit but it's the to me whimsical way they change.
More obscure - at some point the IsWindowVisible() method would tell you if a window was visible. Now it tells a Window may be visible or not depending on the style from GetWindowLongPtrA(hWnd, GWL_STYLE) and comparing that to an enum.
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That irritated me too. 11 also seems a bit tablet/touch focussed for my tastes, although my 'new' (ie. Cheap reconditioned) laptop does have a touchscreen. Mind you XP is still my favourite interface.
 
Darat said:
If I upgrade my PC to one that supports Recall I might check a bit more to understand where, what and how the data is processed.

Microsoft moved to a subscription model over a decade ago, had to quickly check the exact date and it was 2013 so a dozen years ago.
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"moved" implies there is no alternative. I do not pay Microsoft any money at all for my Windows 10 VM (legally bought as an upgrade to Windows 7). absolutely do not want to be forced into a situation where I have to pay them a licensing fee on a subscription basis.

As for Recall, the idea is so obviously a bad one from the consumer's point of view, how can you not see it as a huge red flag wrt Microsoft's future intentions?
 
arthwollipot said:
Indeed, I never suggested it was a complete replacement. And I get that when you're invested in the Apple Walled Garden it's hard to break free of it.
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Yeah, ◊◊◊◊ off with that one. iTunes is far less walled than many other music apps in that, if you buy a song from Apple it's not DRM encumbered. Also the pain point was playlists. Are you seriously claiming that people's playlists are inside Apple's "walled garden"?
 
jeremyp said:
Yeah, ◊◊◊◊ off with that one. iTunes is far less walled than many other music apps in that, if you buy a song from Apple it's not DRM encumbered. Also the pain point was playlists. Are you seriously claiming that people's playlists are inside Apple's "walled garden"?
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If they don't transfer, and there's no easy way to move it, then that's pretty walled, isn't it?

I wouldn't know. I don't have the same issues that a lot of people do. I never bought music on an application. I use Spotify and Pandora that just transfer my "playlists" or "stations" from device to device without any problems. It sounds like the products that gave him hassle were specifically Apple related (ipod and itunes).

That being said, I understand being heavily invested in dated software that doesn't have easy options to transfer from device to device. I work in IT after all.
 
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