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[Continuation] Australian Politics II

I understand that police had enough evidence to charge him many years ago, but he had enough powerful friends to delay the inevitable.
 
psionl0 said:
Doesn't make it right either. So far, it's just something you want to believe.
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So what’s your opinion? Do you think police simply launch charges like this without good cause? He was arrested for behaviour in a UK public toilet long ago. He had access to boys as a teacher. Do you think these 20+ charges are all made up?

Ockham’s razor alone should be enough.
 
lionking said:
So what’s your opinion? Do you think police simply launch charges like this without good cause? He was arrested for behaviour in a UK public toilet long ago. He had access to boys as a teacher. Do you think these 20+ charges are all made up?

Ockham’s razor alone should be enough.
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The notion that Jones had enough friends in high places to impede a police investigation is not the simplest explanation. More likely that the DPP (or whoever decided to go ahead with the prosecution) didn't believe the evidence was good enough until recently (a not guilty verdict would not have been in anybody's interest).
 
psionl0 said:
The notion that Jones had enough friends in high places to impede a police investigation is not the simplest explanation. More likely that the DPP (or whoever decided to go ahead with the prosecution) didn't believe the evidence was good enough until recently (a not guilty verdict would not have been in anybody's interest).
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“Until recently” is carrying a heavy weight.
 
lionking said:
“Until recently” is carrying a heavy weight.
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Do you know when his victims first started complaining to the police?

Don't forget that Jones was also arrested in a public toilet in London in 1988 and charged with indecency offences. He got off then because the police were unable to present any evidence. I'm sure that you wouldn't want that to happen here too.
 
"The assistant commissioner said media reporting resulted in some information coming forward to police and led to the creation of Strike Force Bonnefin, which was set up to investigate a number of alleged indecent assaults and sexual touching incidents between 2001 and 2019."

These things take time, and it had to happen sometime.

www.abc.net.au

Alan Jones charged with additional offences relating to ninth alleged victim

NSW Police say following further legal advice, it could be revealed the 83-year-old veteran broadcaster has been charged with an additional two counts of assault with act of indecency relating to a ninth alleged victim.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
a_unique_person said:
Australia's private health business is not just still ◊◊◊◊◊◊, it's just getting more ◊◊◊◊◊◊.

Healthscope set to rip up contracts with private insurers Bupa and Australian Health Services Alliance - ABC News https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-22/healthscope-ahsa-bupa-private-insurance-contracts/104633886

American investors want to make healthcare just profitable here as it is in the e USA.
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I think Healthscope needs Bupa more than Bupa needs Healthscope and a settlement will be reached. I have skin in the game as a Bupa member.

Of no great relevance, I knew the CEO of Healthscope before it was purchased. He was an utterly decent man who took Healthscope to a position where it became attractive to overseas raiders. He did this without blackmailing health funds.
 
The government have withdrawn their gambling ad regulation bill because the Greens and the coalition opposed it. No estimated date to reintroduce it, since we may have an election before they sit again. Just great. ☹️
 
Orphia Nay said:
The government have withdrawn their gambling ad regulation bill because the Greens and the coalition opposed it. No estimated date to reintroduce it, since we may have an election before they sit again. Just great. ☹️
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As I have said repeatedly, the Greens are scum. They have no principals.
 
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lionking said:
They are aligning with the Liberals. Does that suit you?
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Supporting the bill just because the Libs oppose it would be the stupidest reason to support it imaginable.
The Greens aren't "aligning with the Libs", they are exercising their usual policy of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
 
psionl0 said:
The Greens aren't "aligning with the Libs", they are exercising their usual policy of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
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You're probably right. They might want to ban gambling ads altogether which would be nice, as I hate gambling, but maybe it's something that needs to happen in stages.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Does he still have a radio show? Or other soapbox?
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Since he 'lost his contract' on SkyNews a couple of years ago (which is basically just 'foxnews lite) he has been reduced to making podcasts only (which he is still doing- well I suspect they are just using the backlog now lol- I doubt that making podcasts is in the front of what is left of his 'mind'....
 
arthwollipot said:
What? No! It's a stupid idea. I don't know how you come to that conclusion from my posting the above article.
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I was tricked by your posting sequence. You first posted about crazies Thorp and Lambie. Then in your very next post, you stated "Also, this:" and included a link to Andrew Wilkie opposing the ban on teens using social media.
 
Not sure what to make of this...

The framework recommends legal reforms to include minimum requirements to counter racial discrimination. This includes embedding First Nations cultural safety across sectors.

It also includes recommendations for the education system to implement cultural safety and anti-racism reforms, and for workplaces to develop and implement various internal anti-racism strategies. One such suggestion is mandatory cultural safety and anti-racism training for all workers, including parliamentarians.

The plan involves strategies for recruiting and retaining staff from First Nations and other minority communities in leadership and senior roles.

It also calls for media organisations to adopt guidelines based on an anti-racist approach to reporting. To lead by example, parliamentarians and staff should adhere to a zero-tolerance approach to racism.

The framework recommends that the government establish a National Anti-racism Taskforce to develop separate implementation plans. One of these would focus on First Nations people; the other on the general population.
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https://theconversation.com/can-we-...ording-to-the-first-ever-national-plan-244734

It seems to be rehashing all the ideas that seem to have made racism worse in the last few years.
 
arthwollipot said:
What? No! It's a stupid idea. I don't know how you come to that conclusion from my posting the above article.
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I agree, it's a stupid idea. "Social media" is a Boomer bugbear.

Kids should be taught to use it, and tech companies should make it safe. It's a silly law, and banning teens from "social media" (whatever that is) is vague, designed to make old people feel good.
 
arthwollipot said:
And yet, apparently 77% of people are in favour of it.
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Calling an activity illegal won't curtail it. In fact, it is likely to make the activity more attractive - especially to young people. The first thing that will happen is that teens will learn all about setting up VPNs etc so I guess that a positive effect of the law would be to make teens even more tech savvy.

Of course, this highlights the old adage about not underestimating the stupidity of the voting public. I understand that Bill Clinton managed to retain his presidency by introducing similar internet laws after conducting seminars to find out what concerned voters. He must have known that the laws wouldn't make much of a difference but votes are votes.
 
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