dudalb
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Is it not that seed oils are bad for you, but that they are being really overhyped as a miracle cure by the usua suspects.
Is it not that seed oils are bad for you, but that they are being really overhyped as a miracle cure by the usua suspects.
Hope they never come across a pot of mustard cress, they'd be phoning the EPA (the phone call will never be answered...)My favorite was a website I saw years ago saying that canola oil was extracted from a close relative of the mustard plant, which they claimed was "the source of the deadly Mustard Gas used in World War I".
I've definitely seen that but it seems like the anti-seed oil thing has spread. Honestly, the blanket all seed oils are bad for these sciency sounding reasons is the only reason I really question it. If it were just one kind of seed that was a problem it would be more believable. Also, they almost always through in something about inflamation.The advocates of a carnivore diet like to vilify seed oils. As well as almost everything else, except red meat and offal. Oh, they do seem fond taking excessive amounts of weird supplements as well.
Well, the hilarious part of this one in particular is that it probably isn't diet at all. It's more likely air conditioning, convenience, and more time spent inside. Lack of sunlight is also probably a factor. But anyway, I'm just guessing... don't have any science ready to add to the conversation.Why are people fat? seed oils.
Well... maybe. Dunno. Haven't studied trends explicitly. I suppose I'm just basing it on what we ate at home (which included chickens we butchered ourselves, occasional caught fish, deer meat, and beef/pork by the half hog/beef stored year round in the deep freeze... oh, and eggs from the aforementioned chickens), compared to what I've experienced city folk eating, including myself as a single person. We even ate pheasants and wild rabbits now and then (a bit gamy for my taste).Has protein actually been reduced ?
Until comparatively recently most people couldn't afford animal based protein on a regular basis. Sure the upper crust would have meats and cheeses but most people would just have bread, gruel, oatmeal or a similar carbohydrate on all but the most special occasions.
IMO we are fat because we have access to affordable, calorie dense food.
Well, the US has multiple culinary traditions. I suppose my family's mostly come from Ireland and Germany, though... but with a bit of the WWII American gardening fad thrown in, and several generations lived over here before my grandparents. But it's decaying from what it once was, not all that far back. That was my point.Well, for most of human history, having enough food was not a given. In some parts of the world this is still true, of course. But in the richer parts of the world, food is abundant. And tasty! And highly palatable - it's not grisly and you don't have to spit out bones and seeds etc... You can buy cakes and donuts for barely any money at all and each one can have 300 or more calories. And people eat these between meals, or on the road as you say.
So it is hardly surprising that when food is tasty and abundant, people will eat more than when food is not tasty and abundant.
The idea that we need to look for some magical ingredient, like seed oils, that if we remove it, we will solve the obesity epidemic is just idiocy.
By the way, the proper meal thing is a good point. Though I have seen it argued that it is down to whether or not there is a culinary tradition. A lot of countries that are also rich, but don't have the same levels of obesity, have recognizable culinary traditions that get passed down. I suppose the US DOES have a recognizable culinary tradition, but much of it is fast food.
Just a nitpick. The notion that fat makes you fat is completely wrong. It comes from the "you are what you eat" campaigns of the 70s and 80s. Eaten fat is no more likely to be stored as fat than carbs or sugars.Mexico has a general genetic ability to get fat, a diet rich in indigestible corn, cheap greasy meat cuts and lard.
Combine all that in a situation where sufficient food is available to most and many are not active enough an obesity problem has emerged.
It's our fault, not one magically toxic ingredient. Even refried beans are given a second load of lard to absorb when made traditionally.
We need to get smarter, not try to find a scapegoat hidden in fast food.
With respect to some foods, that makes perfect sense. In pre-pressed hamburger patties, it doesn't. I'm mostly complaining about all the pre-made crap that pretends to have lots of meat in it, but when you look at the protein content on the label, it doesn't seem to reflect that. And yes, whey protein (and soy, as desired) can be a substitute for meat. I'm not anti-vegan. I have no desire to do it that way myself, but I'm fine with whatever others decide to do with their lives. I just think it best if it's informed and intentional.BTW...
Soy is added to foods to increase the protein.
Nope. Not a problem here. I was looking it up explicitly when dieting for each meal. Meat portions don't come with a nutrition label if you're buying the right stuff, but it's easy enough to look it up online. I'm still in the eat whatever phase (within reason), but will be dieting again this year between June and October or so... my weight still isn't quite where I want it yet, but I haven't noticeably gained much back, either.Hmm...
If you're thinking that meat is 100% protein, I can see the problem.
The rule of thumb for meat is about 20% protein.
That's something that my dietician warned me about quite a long time ago.
I was thinking 90g tin of fish is 90g protein...
But if you read the label it's much less, more like 14g.
Not because of fillers, but because of reality.
Nope. Not a problem here. I was looking it up explicitly when dieting for each meal. Meat portions don't come with a nutrition label if you're buying the right stuff, but it's easy enough to look it up online.
I'm still in the eat whatever phase (within reason), but will be dieting again this year between June and October or so... my weight still isn't quite where I want it yet, but I haven't noticeably gained much back, either.
Eggs are probably the best protein to calorie ratio, as I remember. Whole milk isn't too bad, either, if you can stomach it. I used to boil a dozen eggs all at once and add one or two to meals to reach my calorie target when the portions were short of what I wanted.
I'm a strict calorie counter in diet mode... but with an emphasis on protein. When out of diet mode, my choices are still being informed by the experience... I just don't bother calculating and measuring.
Maybe. I'm mainly just taking advantage of the summer warm cycle. It's what works for me. It's also when I build strength, although you might find that odd, too. My diets aren't that stingy... it's just a maximum calorie target of what someone my height and on the low end of the ideal weight range should be eating for no gain (but it was maximum... so it was practically a little less). It's strict, but not stingy. Like I said, it didn't yo-yo much, if any, just going by how my clothes fit and what I look like in the mirror. I don't have a reliable scale. The one I got last year was complete garbage -- the spring gradually lost tension on its own, I and I wasn't losing as much as it said I was... although I did lose some (could tell by looking). I haven't totally quit exercising, either... it's just no longer a specific regimen... I just randomly do a set of squats or pushups or whatever (occasional run) whenever I feel like it on the off cycle, instead of a specific plan (no longer a daily rotating cycle through different muscle groups with a weekly rest day). It's not just weight loss. It's recomposition.But this in itself seems like way too much work. Yo-yo dieting and calorie counting just means that you haven't found a sustainable balance.
Saw that just now, seems like they might even be good for us.![]()
Are seed oils really bad for you?
Seed oils like canola and sunflower oil have attracted controversial claims about harmful effects in recent times. Is there any truth to them?www.bbc.com