So I figured I'd make a thread about the new party Elonia is now proposing. Will it be a threat to Dump somehow or just a source of more bizarre entertainment, polarization, and ◊◊◊◊-ups?
No more funding to Dump from Elonia is probably a benefit in itself, but I'd love it to see two fascist parties butting heads. If there are more elections, it might even, in the best case, steal some voters from Dump.
'Dump'? 'Elonia'? 'Murica'? Polishing up on our 'skeptic' skills, are we?
I haven't been following the subject closely, so I googled it. According to
NDTV World (who describes themselves as 'Where Innovation Meets Integrity'... defined by 'a commitment to excellence'):-
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has proposed the formation of a new political party in the US amid his ongoing feud with President Donald Trump. Mr Musk conducted a poll on his social media platform X, which showed 80% of the people were in favour of the idea.
"The people have spoken. A new political party is needed in America to represent the 80% in the middle! And exactly 80% of people agree. This is fate," he said on X. He later called it "The America Party".
Once again the mainstream news media falls for Musk's blatant lies. Here he's so stupid that he exposes his dishonesty in the very same post! The poll with 5,630,665 votes did
not show that exactly 80% of respondents agree that it's time to create new political party in America to represent the 'middle'. It was actually 80.4%.
I'm polishing up on
my 'skeptic' skills too!
But seriously, there are around 100 million active US users on X. Two thirds of those are probably bots, which leaves about 33 million actual humans. That suggests the poll represents around 17% of US X users, which could be significant. However I doubt this 'America Party' will come to much unless someone else steps in to run it. Musk isn't a politician - he's a free thinker whose ideas aren't tied to any particular political ideology. And - as we have seen with him and Trump - he doesn't have the social skills to know when to shut up and pretend otherwise. Sooner or later he would take a position that 80% of the party didn't agree with, and that would be the end of it.
The other problem Musk has is that he doesn't research things enough before shooting off at the hip. Even a cursory examination would tell him that the vast majority of voters always for the same party no matter what. No way are 80% so dissatisfied that they would switch to a new party with different ideals. 5% or 10% maybe, which would be enough to put a spanner in the works for sure. But not 80%. Once again we see Musk's enthusiasm getting in the way of rational analysis.
If Musk did try to front this movement he would have to contend with the feckless 'news' media, which is more interested in pushing a narrative than presenting facts.
NDTV World continues:-
The feud between Mr Trump and Mr Musk arose after the latter publicly criticised the "Big, Beautiful Bill," a massive government spending plan. The bill didn't go well with Mr Musk as it continued to support oil and gas companies but cut back on benefits for clean energy and electric vehicles, which directly affected his companies like Tesla and SpaceX.
So apparently it's not possible for someone to be concerned about oil and gas companies getting subsidies while cutting back on cleaning up the planet. No, it has to be because
you're in that business so it would be hurting
your bottom line. The sad thing is that millions of so-called 'skeptics' are nodding their heads in agreement with this notion, when the facts indicate the opposite. If Musk was at all concerned about his businesses he wouldn't be upsetting Trump right now - he would bite his lip and pretend to love the 'Big, Beautiful Bill'- at least until his contracts were secured beyond Trump's ability to reneg on them.
This is not the first time Musk spoke his mind even though it was likely to hurt him. Musk called Peter Navarro 'dumber than a sack of bricks' over tariffs because he
is, not because Musk's business would be hurt by them (in fact Teslas are the most 'made in America' vehicles, which would give them a competitive advantage over other brands). But you don't see that fact in the media because it clashes with the narrative that the Richest Man in the World (even though Musk has received
zero income from Tesla in the last 7 years) is only interested in enriching himself by any means. The idea that the money itself doesn't matter that much to him isn't countenanced at all.
