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All Hail Taylor Swift, Person of the Year!

"Taylor Swift is a singer-songwriter with a millions-strong fanbase, who sells out stadiums with her performances. She's probably one of the biggest entertainers in existence right now."

"Yeah, but does she actually do anything?"

Well, she did help out Phil Wang in Series 7 of Task Master (apparently), so there is that.

However, it was a few years ago. Mebbe it's taken that long for a Merkinaian magazine to catch up with less well-known British TV and comedians...
 
Let's see, so we start with the obviousness that she is a historically popular entertainer. Oh, but then she should just be "entertainer of the year" objection.

But in the meantime...
She caused a major outrage among Fox News viewers (so that's a large population) by urging her fans to...register to vote. Lots of famous people encourage people to vote all the time and it doesn't make Fox News. There is something unique about TS, apparently.

But a more important aspect, something that has been brought up: the fact that she is rumored to be dating a professional football player has significantly increased the popularity of the NFL. That is no trivial matter. It's not like the NFL wasn't already an incredibly popular form of entertainment, but just being associated with TS comes with a wave of new interest.

Simone Biles is also hanging out on NFL sidelines, and that is also helpful, but nowhere near the impact of TS.

Add in her impact on the business model of the music industry (she didn't invent the approach of re-recording her own work, but has certainly brought it to light as an effective model), it's hard to say, "Oh, what impact has she had?" If you are paying attention, it's huge.

And, for the record, I don't know if I would recognize 3 of her songs, especially if you take out her Christmas album so it's not like I'm a Swiftie.
 
There are twelve different cover versions of her on "Time Lord" magazine. (But everyone's favorite is the fourth one, of course.)

I’ve only seen these 3 referenced.

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Though I’m aware she’s been on Time’s cover before.
 
Amazingly, I get the reference.

Only because I have seen the movie Sing. And it wasn't until recently that I learned that was originally a TS song.

I only got it because someone posted the video in this thread!

It turns out that the song I thought was Swift's was actually Katy Perry. And I mostly know who Katy Perry is because she looks like New Girl, and I mostly know who New Girl is because she's the daughter of the actress who played Donna's mother on Twin Peaks! I am starting to suspect that I may be a little bit out of touch. *polishes monocle with a pinch of snuff*
 
My subscription is up for renewal. If I don't get the Ragdoll Cat cover maybe I won't!
And now I'm wondering if hers meows as much as the one currently talking to me!
 
What the **** are you talking about? She has a massive, massive following on every social media platform she decides to be on. She started dating an NFL player and THEIR ******* SALES WENT UP. She's stood up to recording studios, including re-recording her entire catalog to get out from under their thumb, and she's philanthropic as well.

All around she's an amazing person and everyone that hops in and is like, "Who? Don't know, don't care about some pop person" is doing the same thing you're doing. Dismissing her because of one facet of her life, which admittedly made her wealthy. The fact you saying "lets hold off on the celebration" is WAY too late. The choice has been made and no one involved in it gave a flying ******* what Samson has to say about Taylor's views. Nothing to debate.


Once again, you took the words right of my mouth and thank you.

I'm a Boomer, but I still love her music. My favorite song is Our Song, and yes, every accolade she receives is most definitely deserved.

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There are twelve different cover versions of her on "Time Lord" magazine. (But everyone's favorite is the fourth one, of course.)

I’ve only seen these 3 referenced.

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Though I’m aware she’s been on Time’s cover before.

The fourth one that TM references is the one where she is dressed as Tom Baker.
 
I only got it because someone posted the video in this thread!

It turns out that the song I thought was Swift's was actually Katy Perry. And I mostly know who Katy Perry is because she looks like New Girl, and I mostly know who New Girl is because she's the daughter of the actress who played Donna's mother on Twin Peaks! I am starting to suspect that I may be a little bit out of touch. *polishes monocle with a pinch of snuff*

I've never seen New Girl but I have a thing for Zoey Deschanel and I know she was in it. Is she the one you think looks like Katy Perry?
 
Isn't the point of the thing to drum up interest in "Time" magazine? Not that it works: it just drums up interest in Taylor Swift. I learned a lot more about her in this thread than I knew before.
It's pretty clear Time editors wanted to jump on the very profitable band wagon as it drove by. One look at the suddenly increased popularity of a certain football team is a clue.
 
I only got it because someone posted the video in this thread!

It turns out that the song I thought was Swift's was actually Katy Perry. And I mostly know who Katy Perry is because she looks like New Girl, and I mostly know who New Girl is because she's the daughter of the actress who played Donna's mother on Twin Peaks! I am starting to suspect that I may be a little bit out of touch. *polishes monocle with a pinch of snuff*

Isn't New Girl the sister of the lead actress in Bones? And doesn't the lead actress in Bones actually have bones? The coincidences never cease!
 
*Kanye West shoots double finger guns*

Not a fan of her genre of music at all, but damned if she is not the most giving person I've heard about in years. I was reading somewhere that she is one of the richest entertainers, yet also makes it rain with more philanthropic cash both in volume and proportion than anyone else comparable.
My meaning is that a Jewish philanthropist would not qualify this year because of the politics, whereas Taylor is as controversial as motherhood and apple pie.
 
As a hypothesis, I suggest the world would be better if actors musos and sports people shut up about politics except where they are directly affected.

Musos=Musicians, I suppose?

What kind of world do you expect if artists and entertainers refuse to be "political"? You might rethink if you truly considered who you're asking to shut up, from a historical standpoint.
 
Musos=Musicians, I suppose?

What kind of world do you expect if artists and entertainers refuse to be "political"? You might rethink if you truly considered who you're asking to shut up, from a historical standpoint.
Just a personal preference. I would infinitely prefer Tay tay to describe the process of writing a song than what she thinks of Trump.
 
Just a personal preference. I would infinitely prefer Tay tay to describe the process of writing a song than what she thinks of Trump.

Does it work both ways? Would you like Trump to not tell anybody what he thinks about anyone who isn't a politician?
 
As a hypothesis, I suggest the world would be better if actors musos and sports people shut up about politics except where they are directly affected.

Just a personal preference. I would infinitely prefer Tay tay to describe the process of writing a song than what she thinks of Trump.

In Taylor's case she had no choice because she apparently was directly affected, as described earlier by Doubt:

One funny thing was that until a few years ago, she managed to keep her perspective on many social issues to herself. And then some racist morons started referring to her as their Aryan Goddess. That seems to have coaxed her out of her offical neutrality just enough to signal she does not support those racist fools.

A lot of people would like it if celebrities kept their opinions to themselves. Unfortunately, if they actually do that, some of the fans will make up a narrative for them.

If fans are starting to make political statements or implying associations on an entertainer's behalf - perhaps enabled by that entertainer's very policy of never giving their political opinions - it would seem to me that their hand is forced, especially if the associations being made are contrary to their own beliefs and sympathies.
 
In Taylor's case she had no choice because she apparently was directly affected, as described earlier by Doubt:



If fans are starting to make political statements or implying associations on an entertainer's behalf - perhaps enabled by that entertainer's very policy of never giving their political opinions - it would seem to me that their hand is forced, especially if the associations being made are contrary to their own beliefs and sympathies.
Ok this is much more complicated than I thought. Had not perused whole thread.
 
As a hypothesis, I suggest the world would be better if actors musos and sports people shut up about politics except where they are directly affected.

How bold of you to suggest they suspend their First Amendment rights to free speech. You’re echoing the “Shut Up And Sing” mantra directed at the Dixie Chicks when one spoke up against GW Bush.

Her decision to speak out, first against TN senate candidate Marsha Blackburn, then Trump, is covered in the above mentioned “Miss Americana” on Netflix. Doing so had at least 2 implications:

1) The alienation of a large portion of her fans, a la’ The Dixie Chicks fiasco.

2) The security implications, with the possibility of making herself a target of retribution by MAGA zealots.

I think it was a brave and principled move, and I applaud her for it.

Here’s a music video from Miss Americana that I suspect will help motivate many young voters:

https://youtu.be/21mKreFKm6E?si=09DQ4lhai2999jdh
 
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As a hypothesis, I suggest the world would be better if actors musos and sports people shut up about politics except where they are directly affected.
In the confused, incoherent, misinformed alternate reality you occupy, I suppose women aren't affected by abortion bans.
 
In Taylor's case she had no choice because she apparently was directly affected, as described earlier by Doubt:



If fans are starting to make political statements or implying associations on an entertainer's behalf - perhaps enabled by that entertainer's very policy of never giving their political opinions - it would seem to me that their hand is forced, especially if the associations being made are contrary to their own beliefs and sympathies.

While this is a good point, it's also a double edged sword. Keeping quiet about your political opinions can be viewed as a money grabbing strategy. After becoming one of the entertainment industy's most popular top earners, you could say pretty much anything and maintain or grow your fan base. See el Trumpo's apparently correct observation about shooting someone on 5th Ave. Her revealed opinions appeal to a wider base and generate her more money and popularity, so she opined wisely.

None of which is meant to throw shade on Ms Swift, but on her fan base. You shouldn't really give two ***** about what a performer thinks about politics (as long as they aren't like Nazis or something). If Tay Tay is ******* a football player, and the already massive juggernaut NFL makes noticably more money as a result... I mean, that's a little scary, silly as it sounds. A performer should not have a massive hoard of zombies at their disposal.
 
It's not just about America.

America has a controlling interest in just about every economic, commercial, diplomatic, and military institution in the world. POTUS is the chief executive of all of those interests. His influence does not end at the US border. It's global, and it's almost certainly bigger, globally, than anyone else's.
 
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