mjd1982
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Well, mjd, if all you want to do is complain about the problem without offering or even discussing solutions, let's return to the topic of 9/11.
Where have I complained? I dont think your reading comp is up to much i'm afraid... I have illustrated a propensity in media which points to a conclusion, and applied this to 911.
For which you offer WTC7 as an example. But the details of the collapse of WTC7 are only detrimental to power if WTC7 was indeed demolished as an "inside job." In the context of the 9/11 consipracy argument, this is begging the question.
That's the wrong way round. WTC7 is a rudimentary detail in the most reported event of all time, that was censored. Under the PM, this leads us to a likely conclusion.
Your original comment was based on your interpretation of a comparison of very different wars in different centuries. It is, at best, an opinion. Honest and balanced media would report it as such, along with contrary opinions.
I dont know what wars you are referring to here.
Which, I agree, they have largely failed to do. This is a deplorable situation. It's a shame you have no solutions to offer.
This thread is not about solutions, its about the applicatin to 911.
No, even accepting your premise of MSM censorship of news does not lead to any conclusion about 9/11. Affirming the consequent fallacy:
- If 9/11 was an inside job, news of it would be censored.
- News of 9/11 was censored.
- Therefore, 9/11 was an inside job. [invalid]
That is not my formulation
- News of 9/11 was censored.
- The censoring of news of 9/11 indicates power interests being protected.
- Therefore, 9/11 was an inside job. [?]
That is my formulation.
That one's just a non sequitur. Even accepting the stated premises, your ideas about which power interests were being protected, and what they were being protected from, are still pure speculation.
Aren't big insurance companies a power interest? They were stuck with the bill. Why weren't their interests protected?
#1 You state that it is a non sequitur, and then you back it up with statements that have nothing to do with a notion of non sequiturs. That is a non sequitur. I have told you many times who the powerful interests are. These are the ones who have benefitted from 9/11.
#2 Insurance companies werent stuck with the bill. Re insurance, and re re insurance were. Their interests are insignificant compared to the major corporate political interests.
When presented a web of fanciful "what-ifs" and political theories and urged to reach a conclusion from them, I look instead to facts based on physical laws that can be relied upon. Such as, that demolition charges, in order to perform their function of breaking steel beams with intense pulses of gas pressure, must make a lot of a certain kind of noise. All the political theory in the world can't disconnect that dot.
This isnt the point for the moment. The point is the nature of media behaviour around 911, and the conclusions we can draw from this based on what we know about media behaviour. This is very clear.
Reharding the charges, I would state briefly that Jowenko, Bachmann, Schneider and Fontana are all experts who had no qualms with the level of sound at the collapse; further, there are eyewitnesses who menioned "a clap of thunder", and "a shockwave ripping through the building", followed by its collapse.
But this is not the issue of the thread; it will be discussed on the CF thread shortly.