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9/11 Truth Movement Merchandise: A Detailed List

LastChild:

None of us are actually affiliated with The History Channel, and thus would be unable to satifactorily address your concerns.

Perhaps you should contact them directly with your very pertinent questions so we can have this issue settled once and for all.

Here is their e-mail address:
thc.viewerrelations@aetv.com

Good luck! and please let us know the results.
 
johnny karate said:
LastChild:

None of us are actually affiliated with The History Channel, and thus would be unable to satifactorily address your concerns.

Perhaps you should contact them directly with your very pertinent questions so we can have this issue settled once and for all.

Here is their e-mail address:
thc.viewerrelations@aetv.com

Good luck! and please let us know the results.
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Oh that reminds me. I already did.

This is what I got...

Thank you for submitting a QUESTION/COMMENT through our automated FAQ Wizard.
We will do our best to send your inquiry to appropriate contacts at A&E Television Networks.
Thanks again for clicking with us!
Truly,
Viewer Relations
A&E Television Networks
 
uk_dave said:
I hope they made a packet!

You see what you don't get is that your lot are supposed to be fighting for truth and justice and are supposed to be putting their whole life into proving that 9-11 woz an inside jobby. They should be giving this stuff away for free and if that means selling the house and car and living in a cardboard box in the ozarks, then so be it. Apparently the future of your country depends on 'truth'. :rolleyes:

Whereas PM represent the status quo. They are providing an easily understandable narrative to answer questions people may have about 9-11. It really doesn't matter whether there are conspiracy theories or not. But there is a market for the pop.mech book and, since they're not out to change the world for the sake of mankind, there's nothing wrong with them being rewarded for their efforts.:cool:
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Why is there a market for the PM book? What are people looking for?
 
LastChild said:
I never even saw it before the other day.
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LastChild said:
Oh that reminds me. I already did. This is what I got...

Thank you for submitting a QUESTION/COMMENT through our automated FAQ Wizard. We will do our best to send your inquiry to appropriate contacts at A&E Television Networks. Thanks again for clicking with us! Truly, Viewer Relations A&E Television Networks
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Well, the earliest you can have sent your comment is “the other day”. So, patience!
 
LastChild said:
I didn't know they were. I never even saw it before the other day.
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So you missed the excitement when it first aired. The "truth" leaders were screaming "hit piece" and set out to debunk it. It seemed to bother them quite badly.

As far as DRG or Avery and Co being experts on 9/11 conspiracies? Of course they are. That was my point about the argument being silly. Anyone with advanced knowledge would be. You have to say that Mark (Gravy) would fit the description as an expert.
 
you have chosen, poorly

LastChild said:
He hasn't debunked anything. And you're not answering. Has DRG not researched 9/11 and done it longer then Meigs?

I don't know that there is any such thing. But I do know if there is that Meigs is no more an expert or researcher then anyone in the truth movement.
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DRG is a hearsay no fact person selling books with no reality on 9/11. Good choice as a nut case expert on 9/11 who looks so sane.

Meigs, yes the rational ideas of Meigs have you fooled since you only fall for the lies of 9/11 truth.

This is simple stuff... 9/11 truth preys on ignorance
 
LastChild said:
He hasn't debunked anything. And you're not answering. Has DRG not researched 9/11 and done it longer then Meigs?
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1 - He has debunked plenty. Read the Popular Mechanics article, they debunk quite a few of the 911 conspiracist claims.

2 - The length of time spent researching is not the only factor. For example, 25 years of experience is not the same as 1 year of experience 25 times.

David Ray Griffin is still making claims that have been debunked, so he has either not done enough research, or he is trying to deceive people.

Is it your assertion that David Ray Griffin is a 9/11 conspiracy expert?

LastChild said:
The Debunkers do? I hope you're not going to point to another magazine editor/amateur photographer as a demolition expert are you? Do I need to point out that Hugh Hefner isn't a centerfold?
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I never suggested that a magazine editor or photographer was a demolition expert. In the HC piece, they did relay the statements of experts they had interviewed, but that's not the same thing as claiming to be experts.

1 - Experts whose opinions contradict the 9/11 conspiracy theories aren't always going to be considered "debunkers".

2 - See this list for the names of experts consulted for the PM article/book. It is their opinions which were given when Meigs/Coburn gave the "expert responses".

LastChild said:
nicepants said:
Meigs/Coburn were not the only experts that the history channel interviewed. Be sure to watch the entire piece.
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Really? Got any names? It's hard to remember too many nobodies.
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I watched the show when it was broadcast, but that was some time ago. I do remember them talking to other experts but cannot recall all of their names off the top of my head. I believe one of them was one of the engineers who designed the buildings. I suggest you watch the show for yourself.

LastChild said:
nicepants said:
Who would you consider an "expert" on 911 conspiracy theories?
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I don't know that there is any such thing.
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1 - Are you contending that there is no such thing as an expert in 911 conspiracy theories? Why not?

LastChild said:
But I do know if there is that Meigs is no more an expert or researcher then anyone in the truth movement.
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...and how have you determined this?
 
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LastChild said:
Why is there a market for the PM book? What are people looking for?
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Well the 'truth' movement is an obvious market for the book, dontcha think? After all they would want to be fully acquainted with all of the facts rather than spew nonsense wherever they roam.

The other market would be people who never had a full overview of the events of that day and don't really want to plough through the 911 commission report or the NIST report. It kinda puts the 'truther' assertion that we're all sheep and can't be bothered to read books to shame somewhat, doesn't it. The irony being that the 'truthers' seldom have anything to say unless accompanied by their own youtube video.

ETA: I've yet to see the History Channel or PM marketing t-shirts/coffee mug/mouse mats/BBQ Aprons with "911 was an outside job" printed on them.
 
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LastChild said:
I don't remember any CT's being referred to as experts on the History channel.



Well maybe the ones they consulted with should have been the ones on the History Channel. Not some publicist fraud. Unless of course they couldn't get any of the actual experts to come on and assert that their opinions and theories were fact. Ya think?



What are Meigs or Coburn Professors in? What have they spent their life in? Why don't you try to find that for me?



I don't remember any of them being referred to as experts on the History channel. So tell me why is Meigs more of an expert then any of them?
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Here's the important difference. David Ray Griffin is nothing more than a liar who makes a living repeating lies as if they are fact. Do you want to go over the list? My guess is you probably don’t since like most truthers you dare not question the Great Dr. Griffin.

Here's one for you that I know to be a lie. Not because someone said he was lying but from having actual access to the information that proves he is. Last year DRG said there were no air phones on Flight 77. Since I work for AA I have access to that sort of info. And guess what the maintenance records show? They were still on board and functional. Does DRG correct himself? No he does not; he just goes on repeating the same garbage as he always does.

By they way, thank you for showing yourself to be a hardcore truther.
 
AMTMAN said:
Here's the important difference. David Ray Griffin is nothing more than a liar who makes a living repeating lies as if they are fact. Do you want to go over the list? My guess is you probably don’t since like most truthers you dare not question the Great Dr. Griffin.

Here's one for you that I know to be a lie. Not because someone said he was lying but from having actual access to the information that proves he is. Last year DRG said there were no air phones on Flight 77. Since I work for AA I have access to that sort of info. And guess what the maintenance records show? They were still on board and functional. Does DRG correct himself? No he does not; he just goes on repeating the same garbage as he always does.

By they way, thank you for showing yourself to be a hardcore truther.
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I don't remember claiming I wasn't interested in the truth. Just that I don't have any conspiracy theories I know to be proven correct whether they be alternative theories or the official version. I will say this though I feel the difference between what you call a hardcore truther and a debunker would be that …

the truther is still looking because they claim the truth has yet to be revealed…

while the debunker is also still looking and researching while at the same time claiming to already know the truth.
 
LastChild said:
I feel the difference between what you call a hardcore truther and a debunker would be that …

the truther is still looking because they claim the truth has yet to be revealed…

while the debunker is also still looking and researching while at the same time claiming to already know the truth.
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I think you've got that a bit wrong:

Truthers already have their minds made up. How else can you explain someone coming to a conclusion that isn't supported by any evidence?

I don't know of ANY hardcore truthers who are still looking...if looking involves the possibility of finding anything that may contradict their already-established theories.

Take DRG, for example. If he was "still looking", he would have learned that he was wrong about the Air Phones claim. Yet he still holds to it.

The difference between truthers and skeptics is this:

Skeptics believe that the truth is more important than a belief.

Truthers believe that a belief is more important than the truth.
 
nicepants said:
Skeptics believe that the truth is more important than a belief.

Truthers believe that a belief is more important than the truth.[/B]
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I think you assume who is the skeptic and who is the believer.

You are the one with the belief.
 
LastChild said:
I think you assume who is the skeptic and who is the believer.

You are the one with the belief.
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You have a point, you have not brought a single fact to support a single idea of 9/11 truth. You have failed to show what you believe and to support they very thing you fail to define. If you are a 9/11 truth member your ignorance on 9/11 is complete, and you have found a group of your peers. If someone was to state what you believe about t9/11 they can be silent, you know zero about 9/11, and show no signs of improving the situation.

You could present what you have on 9/11, but so far you have not.

DRG must sell books to people who lack knowledge on 9/11. Just like Dylan's lies in LCFC. Are people who buy these things upset when they learn they have fallen for false ideas on 9/11?
 
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Horace Wheeljack said:
Kevin Barrett is falling behind the others in the merchandise range. He could have a self-assembly garden gallows, a Mark Roberts voodoo doll, truther nipple clamps...

He needs to get me on board.
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Well, anything that will diverse the twoofers from "classical" sex is good. Why not a whole slew of ultra effective sex toys? Eugenics, you know...
 
Bump for LastChild

lastchild said:
I think you assume who is the skeptic and who is the believer.

You are the one with the belief.
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Tell me....is David Ray Griffin a skeptic or a believer?
 
Alex Jones is also selling internet access and web hosting
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:dl:
 
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Ok, so this isn't a "truther" merchandise site, but it's by far the most ridiculous attempt at making money off of woo that I've yet to come across.

Survival System.

Basically, you need to buy their products because (bolding mine):

Federal officials now warn that future terrorism is certain. To capitalize on the impending chaos, the gov't is now sanctioning YOUR STATE to adopt new legislation allowing TROOPS to (a) CONFISCATE your home & property (including weapons) without compensation, (b) INJECT YOUR FAMILY with a toxic vaccines cultured on tissue of aborted fetuses, (c) QUARANTINE AND IMPRISON those who refuse innoculation, and (d) CLOSE THE ROADS to prevent escape!
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Ya' know. It's bad enough that The Man would take my .45 without so much as a post-dated check in return, but I was willing to let that part slide. It's the toxic injection of vaccines grown on dead babies that really fired me up enough to get my credit card out.
 
realitybites said:
Ok, so this isn't a "truther" merchandise site, but it's by far the most ridiculous attempt at making money off of woo that I've yet to come across.

Survival System.

Basically, you need to buy their products because (bolding mine):




Ya' know. It's bad enough that The Man would take my .45 without so much as a post-dated check in return, but I was willing to let that part slide. It's the toxic injection of vaccines grown on dead babies that really fired me up enough to get my credit card out.
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There are some crazy survival companies advertising at Alex's site and radio shows.

You gotta love the disclaimer at the end of your linked page, though.

Opinions posited herein not medical advice; they are based personal study rather than formal, medical indoctrination.
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:D
 
Thats why you guys need to join the truth.
It`s where the money`s at!!
The American way!!
 
Tweeter said:
Thats why you guys need to join the truth.
It`s where the money`s at!!
The American way!!
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You've got a point, Tweeter. The twoofers aren't real revolutionaries with the intent to rebuild society. They play along with the system just like everyone else. Ten years from now most of them will have other matters on their mind.
 
danielk said:
You've got a point, Tweeter. The twoofers aren't real revolutionaries with the intent to rebuild society. They play along with the system just like everyone else. Ten years from now most of them will have other matters on their mind.
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Like what happened to those six years of their lives where they achieved absolutely nothing except learn a few new words/phrases, such as "Footprint", "Free-Fall", "Controlled Demolition" and, of course, "Therm(i/a)te"
 
A W Smith said:
Alex Jones is also selling internet access and web hosting
http://infowars.net/pictures/index pictures/101005ad.jpg
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The thing that's hilarious is that he'll definitely be reliant on a some big company to provide the service he's re-selling. Also, even though there are large companies involved in Internet services, there isn't a monopoly. Jones uses the word "monopolies" - hey Alex, if there's more than one it's not a monopoly.
 
A W Smith said:
Alex Jones is also selling internet access and web hosting
[qimg]http://infowars.net/pictures/index%20pictures/101005ad.jpg[/qimg]

:dl:
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Internet access and webhosting that feeds corporate corruption is bad. Put your money where your mouth is and use your Internet-related dollars to feed gold old-fashioned patriotic American individual corruption! Do it now, before the Bilderbergs cut you off and your free speech gets CFR'd!
 
But I'm sure the 'truthers' will be attracted by the anonymous surfing package.;);)
 
uk_dave said:
But I'm sure the 'truthers' will be attracted by the anonymous surfing package.;);)
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Which is hilarious, really, since it makes the NWO's job so much easier. Just wiretap their single point of failure, the twoof provider. It's as if they all moved into a shared building, with a huge transparent across the front which proudly declares "Nutbars here!"

Oh boy these guys have no sense left to lose.
 
LastChild said:
the truther is still looking because they claim the truth has yet to be revealed…
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What I have seen from the so called truth movement is quite the opposite. When facts are pointed out to them they go into full on denial or attack mode. The air phones are a text book case of this.
 
not one of them are selling "Inside Job" panties for the ladies? Oh come ON... that's millions waiting to be made there.
 
LastChild said:
He's a skeptic of the official version.
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Much like a conspiracy theory is more than just a theory containing a conspiracy, a skeptic is more than someone who is skeptical. Especially in the context of the JREF or more generally scientific skepticism.

Skeptics demand evidence. Skeptics don't keep being skeptical in the face of overwhelming evidence. Scientific skeptics are skeptical of UFO abductions, not the theory of evolution. Skepticism of an idea in the face of a mountain of evidence is no longer skepticism. It's denialism.

More to the point: He's not a skeptic. He's a denialist.
 
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Anti-sophist said:
Much like a conspiracy theory is more than just a theory containing a conspiracy, a skeptic is more than someone who is skeptical. Especially in the context of the JREF or more generally scientific skepticism.

Skeptics demand evidence. Skeptics don't keep being skeptical in the face of overwhelming evidence. Scientific skeptics are skeptical of UFO abductions, not the theory of evolution. Skepticism of an idea in the face of a mountain of evidence is no longer skepticism. It's denialism.

More to the point: He's not a skeptic. He's a denialist.
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Very well put. He goes beyond being a denialist, when it comes right down to it he's a liar. He says thengs in his books that are not true. And when it's pointed out to him he does not even bother to correct himself.
 
Anti-sophist said:
Much like a conspiracy theory is more than just a theory containing a conspiracy, a skeptic is more than someone who is skeptical. Especially in the context of the JREF or more generally scientific skepticism.

Skeptics demand evidence. Skeptics don't keep being skeptical in the face of overwhelming evidence. Scientific skeptics are skeptical of UFO abductions, not the theory of evolution. Skepticism of an idea in the face of a mountain of evidence is no longer skepticism. It's denialism.

More to the point: He's not a skeptic. He's a denialist.
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Bravo.

I propose we start calling 9/11 CT believers 'Truth-Deniers'.
 
meanwhile, I will start up market research on "Inside Job" underwear. By God, I will have a fleet of Vipers in my garage by the time I'm 35, damn it
 
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