Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Doesn't that mean you can't vote at all if you are not registered??First of all, you don't have to be registered to be a Republican. Secondly, who says Trump is hated by Republicans?
Doesn't that mean you can't vote at all if you are not registered??First of all, you don't have to be registered to be a Republican. Secondly, who says Trump is hated by Republicans?
Doesn't that mean you can't vote at all if you are not registered??
Not the 30%. Trump is hated by a good half of the 70%.First of all, you don't have to be registered to be a Republican. Secondly, who says Trump is hated by Republicans?
Not the 30%. Trump is hated by a good half of the 70%.
No but every Democrat will pretty much vote and a good number of independents. So hatred of Trump gusrantees turnout. Trump base and insependents have to care somewhat for Trump. Trump has made it an existential question. The group has to somehow fear Biden to show up. It has not worked as well as with Hillary in 2016.
Hatred of Trump is bigger than 2016 and 2020.
I won't comment on your overall logic because I don't understand it. I will say only that the assertion I highlighted above is dead wrong. Assuming Biden runs, I think that turnout among young, so-called progressive voters will be low. Or, equivalently, they'll vote for Jill Stein or someone of her ilk.
So you think young people are too stupid to understand the risk Trump poses?
No but every Democrat will pretty much vote and a good number of independents. So hatred of Trump gusrantees turnout. Trump base and insependents have to care somewhat for Trump. Trump has made it an existential question. The group has to somehow fear Biden to show up. It has not worked as well as with Hillary in 2016.
Hatred of Trump is bigger than 2016 and 2020.
The Republicans are bringing a knife to a gunfight, but the Democrats are bringing a pool noodle.The polls say otherwise. He gained 2%. It's Biden who lost 15%.
The polls say otherwise. He gained 2%. It's Biden who lost 15%.
Those polls mean nothing. Obama lost to Romney according to polls. News outfits promote pollsters so they can create scary news.
I predict record turnout by 2024 Nov. No polls show that. I know polls don't reach a good sample anymore.
Those polls mean nothing. Obama lost to Romney according to polls. News outfits promote pollsters so they can create scary news.
I predict record turnout by 2024 Nov. No polls show that. I know polls don't reach a good sample anymore.
I don't see anything to be gained by going around and around until the elections come next year. Trump is a mile ahead of anyone else in the GOP clown car and Biden is an adequately successful incumbent. It's going to be those two.
So until it picks up again, here's a game instead. If you could pick anyone and make them run for President in 2024, who would be a better option?
I'll nominateTom Hanks. He's already politically involved: he buys the coffee machines for the White House press corps. If he runs, forget the polls, the election's in the bag and America is the world's darling again, guaranteed.
I won't comment on your overall logic because I don't understand it. I will say only that the assertion I highlighted above is dead wrong. Assuming Biden runs, I think that turnout among young, so-called progressive voters will be low. Or, equivalently, they'll vote for Jill Stein or someone of her ilk.
No. I don't think it is a question of intelligence, but of ideology (with which intelligence can't compete).
I don't see anything to be gained by going around and around until the elections come next year. Trump is a mile ahead of anyone else in the GOP clown car and Biden is an adequately successful incumbent. It's going to be those two.
So until it picks up again, here's a game instead. If you could pick anyone and make them run for President in 2024, who would be a better option?
I'll nominateTom Hanks. He's already politically involved: he buys the coffee machines for the White House press corps. If he runs, forget the polls, the election's in the bag and America is the world's darling again, guaranteed.
Imo... no more ******* celeb presidents please.
The political satire is thick in here, like smoke in a pool room. I suppose Trump leading Biden by 1 point in the 2024 election polls has much to do with it.
https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling
Then the nomenclature is confusing from outside.Registered as a Republican (or Democrat) is not the same thing as registered to vote. So no.
One way or the other you are claiming young people (as a voting block) are stupid.
Anyone who would vote for Trump could be said to have had a hard knock on the head one or two times too many.
But a sincere 3rd Party voter must truly have been lobotomized. That is a whisper in a hurricane, a mindless, futile waste of a vote. Third Party candidates in the US serve only as spoilers. One of my nightmares is that enough of the lobotomized give the win to the Orange Anus.
No. I don't think it is a question of intelligence, but of ideology (with which intelligence can't compete).
I won't comment on your overall logic because I don't understand it. I will say only that the assertion I highlighted above is dead wrong. Assuming Biden runs, I think that turnout among young, so-called progressive voters will be low. Or, equivalently, they'll vote for Jill Stein or someone of her ilk.
I'm not sure which "word" you are referring to but no matter. Here are your 2 preceding posts in the exchange.No. I'm not. If I were, you wouldn't have to put that word in my mouth.
I'm well aware of past trends. Are you aware of current trends or the fact the 2024 election is not going to be like any other election?You seem to be unaware that young people have lowest voting rate of any age group. See here.
I think most younger voters are smarter than that.
I'm well aware of past trends. Are you aware of current trends or the fact the 2024 election is not going to be like any other election?
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I'm not aware of any evidence that the next presidential election will be the first for which young people do not have the lowest turnout of any age group.
You and SG are talking about two different groups, she is talking about the young people that will vote, you are talking about the number of young people eligible to vote.
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I'm not aware of any evidence that the next presidential election will be the first for which young people do not have the lowest turnout of any age group.
You and SG are talking about two different groups, she is talking about the young people that will vote, you are talking about the number of young people eligible to vote.
Actually, what I originally wrote, which triggered Ginger, was, "Assuming Biden runs, I think that turnout among young, so-called progressive voters will be low." I was referring to a specific segment of eligible voters, namely, young "progressives."
Brianna Mack's phone was ringing off the hook when last week's election results came in.
Mack teaches political science at Ohio Wesleyan University, and she said students flooded her phone with emails when Ohioans approved Issue 1 and Issue 2. The next day, all they wanted to talk about in class was the outcome. The energy was palpable. ...
Voters under 30 surveyed in a CNN exit poll approved the abortion amendment 77-23%, while 84% of Ohioans in that age group said yes to Issue 2, the marijuana law. The measures were also popular with voters ages 30 to 44, most of whom are considered millennials.
Young voters will head to the ballot box next week with some of the nation's most urgent issues on their minds: climate change, gun safety and more.
But a group of young voters told USA TODAY abortion is the top issue driving them to the polls, even in this year's off-cycle election. ...
Choice and personal freedom: Why abortion is activating younger voters ...
Now a leader in her school's Ohio Student Association chapter, a grassroots organization for young Buckeye State voters, Lisowski said she struggled to get an appointment for contraceptives in the months after Roe v. Wade was overturned. Ohio's ballot measure this year includes language to protect access to contraception, a point Lisowski said is driving students to vote.
"Everyone might not need an abortion, but everyone probably could use contraception at some point," she said. "You just want to be able to continue to ensure that you would have access to that at any point."
The debate around abortion for voters her generation, Clark said, goes beyond one medical procedure and encompasses wider concerns about their own autonomy.
Anyone who would vote for Trump could be said to have had a hard knock on the head one or two times too many.
It's a year out from the 2024 election. The news media is all about scandal and controversy. They play up those polls cherry picking ones where Trump is ahead by, OMG, 1 point. Margin of error isn't mentioned because they don't need to. All this naysaying, woe are the Democrats, whatever, is a fabricated news story. The media is who the Democrats need to campaign against, not the Trump facade.
bold is mineThe voters that are polled do not actually follow news. It is still a year to election and this stuff is not a part of the life of 90% of voters. So what is the basis of their decision? The polls, of course! The more negative polls they hear, the more they believe the polls. The current polls are just the result of a string of polls in the news.
They only see little click bait bits of news. People are now used to seeing "news" on social media. They see the little tweet size bit and move on. "Not interesting."