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15 phone call factoids that contradict the official government conspiracy theory

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15 phone call factoids that contradict the official government conspiracy theory

by Rolf Lindgren (Galileo)

1) Betty Ong and Madeline Sweeney on FL11 said there were 4 hijackers, not 5. Both gave the "wrong" seat numbers for the hijackers.

2) Mark Bingham on FL93 said there were 3 hijackers, not 4.

3) Renee May on FL77 said there were 6 hijackers, not 5.

4) Most of Ong's phone call recording is missing.

5) Ong and/or Sweeney gave specific information that the hijackers had guns (which contradicts the "boxcutters" theory). They even gave the exact seat number of the shooter and the shoo-tee.

6) Tom Burnett on FL93 said the hijackers had guns.

7) Todd Beamer's call on FL93 lasted until 10:48 AM, long after the plane was shot down/crashed. The person who took Beamer's call, Lisa Jefferson, heard no screaming or crashing noises.

8) Jeremy Glick's call on FL93 lasted until 11:43 AM, long after the plane was shot down/crashed. The person who took Glick's call, Joanne Makely, heard no screaming or crashing noises.

9) No call on FL93 was attempted after 9:53 (Honor Waino's), except unconnected calls by Edward Felt and CeeCee Lyles at 9:58. No call (besides Beamer's and Glick's) lasted beyond 9:58, when the Sandy Bradshaw and Waino calls ended. The plane supposedly crashed at 10:03 or 10:06.

10) Ted Olson on FL77 lied, he never got a phone call from Barbara Olson.

MORE:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/16015

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It's remarkable to see people willfully publish their ignorance and stupidity onto the internet and then pat themselves on the back for it. Nice job, Rolf. You should be proud.
 
HyJinX said:
It's remarkable to see people willfully publish their ignorance and stupidity onto the internet and then pat themselves on the back for it. Nice job, Rolf. You should be proud.
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Are you capable of any intelligent comments on the article?

:confused:
 
Galileo said:
15 phone call factoids that contradict the official government conspiracy theory

by Rolf Lindgren (Galileo)

1) Betty Ong and Madeline Sweeney on FL11 said there were 4 hijackers, not 5. Both gave the "wrong" seat numbers for the hijackers.

2) Mark Bingham on FL93 said there were 3 hijackers, not 4.

3) Renee May on FL77 said there were 6 hijackers, not 5.

4) Most of Ong's phone call recording is missing.

5) Ong and/or Sweeney gave specific information that the hijackers had guns (which contradicts the "boxcutters" theory). They even gave the exact seat number of the shooter and the shoo-tee.

6) Tom Burnett on FL93 said the hijackers had guns.

7) Todd Beamer's call on FL93 lasted until 10:48 AM, long after the plane was shot down/crashed. The person who took Beamer's call, Lisa Jefferson, heard no screaming or crashing noises.

8) Jeremy Glick's call on FL93 lasted until 11:43 AM, long after the plane was shot down/crashed. The person who took Glick's call, Joanne Makely, heard no screaming or crashing noises.

9) No call on FL93 was attempted after 9:53 (Honor Waino's), except unconnected calls by Edward Felt and CeeCee Lyles at 9:58. No call (besides Beamer's and Glick's) lasted beyond 9:58, when the Sandy Bradshaw and Waino calls ended. The plane supposedly crashed at 10:03 or 10:06.

10) Ted Olson on FL77 lied, he never got a phone call from Barbara Olson.

MORE:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/16015

:cool:
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Are you a 'No planer', who thinks no planes crashed on 9/11?
 
So, Galileo. What does this mean? That the phone calls were faked? That the family members were 'in on it'? What are the implications of your cute little "fact"oids?

Hey...maybe one of the callers said one of the hijackers wore tennis shoes, when we know they had dress shoes on! Inside JOB!
 
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twinstead said:
So, Galileo. What does this mean? That the phone calls were faked? That the family members were 'in on it'? What are the implications of your cute little "fact"oids?

Hey...maybe one of the callers said one of the hijackers wore tennis shoes, when we know they had dress shoes on! Inside JOB!
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What does he care?
He got some attention, thats the whole point of the op..
 
heh, calls lasted after plane crashed = inside job (7,8) calls ended before plane crashed = inside job (9)
 
twinstead said:
So, Galileo. What does this mean? That the phone calls were faked? That the family members were 'in on it'? What are the implications of your cute little "fact"oids?

Hey...maybe one of the callers said one of the hijackers wore tennis shoes, when we know they had dress shoes on! Inside JOB!
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I'm waiting for him to address the all important "toilet seat up or down" issue.:D
 
twinstead said:
So, Galileo. What does this mean? That the phone calls were faked? That the family members were 'in on it'? What are the implications of your cute little "fact"oids?

Hey...maybe one of the callers said one of the hijackers wore tennis shoes, when we know they had dress shoes on! Inside JOB!
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read the end of the article where it says "Conclusions".

Why are you asking me this when I already answered your question? You treat me like I am low class or something. Please show some respect.
 
Galileo said:
read the end of the article where it says "Conclusions".

Why are you asking me this when I already answered your question? You treat me like I am low class or something. Please show some respect.
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People who treat the family members who lost loved ones on that plane the way you and others like you do and who try to find 'anomalies' in the phone calls deserve NO respect. I categorically reject your "conclusions". How about that?

But thanks for playing.
 
1) The hijackers had guns. We don't know exactly who they were, were they were seated, or how many there were.
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or, alternatively, passengers while panicking about their plane being hijacked, made errors, or assumptions that turned out to be incorrect



2) Missing recordings indicate that most of the calls contained information which contradicts the official conspiracy theory.
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or that not all calls are always recorded, IE big brother is not watching



3) The most heavily promoted calls are most likely to be suspect, and the least promoted calls are most likely to be genuine.
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or they just get the most attention paid to them because they are the most widely discussed and referenced




your 15 factoids contradict themselves:


10) Ted Olson on FL77 lied, he never got a phone call from Barbara Olson.

12) Five "unknown" calls were made from FL77 to unknown numbers.
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if there were 5 unknown calls to unknown numbers, how can you be sure one of those was not barbara olson?
 
So you believe that there WERE hijackings, but they used guns, and that some of the telephone calls are 'suspect'? The family members are lying. Wow, you're really something.

Twinstead is right, you don't deserve respect.
 
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if there were 5 unknown calls to unknown numbers, how can you be sure one of those was not barbara olson?
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If it was known to be from Barbara Olson, then it would be known. But the FBI concluded after speaking with Ted Olson, that it wasn't from Barbara Olson.

:jaw-dropp
 
The Irony Meter Is Peaking

Rolf seems to be on ignore, but I wonder if he knew the definition of a "factoid" when he typed the subject line of the OP.

A factoid is a questionable or spurious—unverified, incorrect, or fabricated—statement formed and asserted as a fact, but with no veracity. The word appears in the Oxford English Dictionary as "something which becomes accepted as fact, although it may not be true."[1] However, the word can sometimes mean, instead, an insignificant but true piece of information. In either formulation, factoids are potentially factual, just not self-evidently so.

Factoid was coined by Norman Mailer in his 1973 biography of Marilyn Monroe. Mailer described a factoid as "facts which have no existence before appearing in a magazine or newspaper",[2] and created the word by combining the word fact and the ending -oid to mean "similar but not the same". The Washington Times described Mailer's new word as referring to "something that looks like a fact, could be a fact, but in fact is not a fact".[3]

Factoids may give rise to, or arise from, common misconceptions and urban legends.
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Substitute "facts which have no existence before appearing on the internet" in the second paragraph above, and you could have a fair description of the TM's approach to "truth." So lets start calling the TM the "Truthoid" Movement.

(Another "oid" comes to mind, too...) :D
 
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Galileo said:
If it was known to be from Barbara Olson, then it would be known. But the FBI concluded after speaking with Ted Olson, that it wasn't from Barbara Olson.

:jaw-dropp
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no, thats not how the FBI works, if they dont have hard evidence of who placed the calls and to what number they wont speculate
 
Galileo said:
No, I am opposed to conspiracies. I am a conspiracy debunker.
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If that's the way you rationalize it, and it makes you sleep better at night, then go ahead--you can call yourself anything you want. But that little list of "factoids" you posted is what a conspiracy theorist would post, not anybody really interested in the truth.
 
twinstead said:
If that's the way you rationalize it, and it makes you sleep better at night, then go ahead--you can call yourself anything you want. But that little list of "factoids" you posted is what a conspiracy theorist would post, not anybody really interested in the truth.
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Your icon is an insult to the 9/11 family surviviors and first responders.
 
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Galileo said:
The FBI has been debunked?
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You claimed you were insane. Are you insane or were you just trying to lie you way past a DUI. Just like your trial in real life, you have not presented evidence to support your conclusion, the delusional title.

You are debunked over 8 years ago. This is very disrespectful making up the lie you posted in the title. All the phone calls support the fact 19 terrorists you apologized for killed on 911. Is this OP due to your claimed insanity, or are you just making up another lie?




Galileo said:
That's not my job to do. I'm just a journalist.
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You are a 911 truther posting your insane delusions at a skeptics' forum.

You forgot to present the evidence where the quote-mined junk you provided supports your idiotic conclusion. Where is your explicit evidence? No where, you made this up.
 
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beachnut said:
You claimed you were insane. Are you insane or were you just trying to lie you way past a DUI.
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I was wondering how long it would take for this to become a DUI thread. :(

OT: I don't have time to make 8 more posts tonight, but what is my next "promotion" after Muse?
 
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beachnut said:
You claimed you were insane. Are you insane or were you just trying to lie you way past a DUI.

You are debunked over 8 years ago. This is very disrespectful making up the lie you posted in the title. All the phone calls support the fact 19 terrorists you apologized for killed on 911. Is this OP due to your claimed insanity, or are you just making up another lie?





You are a 911 truther posting your insane delusions at a skeptics' forum.
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you have a negative attitude. I am not interested in discussing the issues with you.
 
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