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flaccon said:
There hasn't been an investigation as such. I imagine a proper scientific investigation can only be carried out if I can demonstrate "something" that cannot be explained using any text book theories.
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As far as I understand the ASKE involvement, they simply came to see if a phenomenon of paranormal nature occurred.
They found nothing.

A late thank you to Pixel42 for posting the ASKE report.

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I'd like to hear some theories here as to why when I record two instruments at once, does one instrument cancel itself out during playback, leaving just the noise of one instrument being played. Any idea's on this?
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You would have to demonstrate this, first. No need (nor point in) to speculate about something which you have not demonstrated.
 
pakeha said:
I disagree with the conclusions of that group- just about the last thing flaccon needs is to get involved with Scientologists.
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Perhaps this is due to the combination of flaccon's claimed but unevidenced messages and interest in UFO Youtube videos.

Yeah baby, Xenu got a message for you ....
 
bluesjnr said:
How incredibly disingenuous of you. You've side-stepped, dodged and ducked every attempt that has been made to have you agree a robust protocol and submit your continuing fantasies to any kind of real scrutiny.
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All I can say is I have been as honest as one can be, under such a mix of strange activity. I side-stepped over to ASKE, the press and the P.I team for such "real" scrutiny. This is not a fantasy, it's actually a nightmare.
 
Anyone who prescribes $cientology for what ails flaccon is a fool, a sociopath, or a member. (These are not mutually exclusive.)
 
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flaccon said:
There hasn't been an investigation as such. I imagine a proper scientific investigation can only be carried out if I can demonstrate "something" that cannot be explained using any text book theories.

I'd like to hear some theories here as to why when I record two instruments at once, does one instrument cancel itself out during playback, leaving just the noise of one instrument being played. Any idea's on this?
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This sounds perilously close to you saying that the only investigation you'll accept "as such" and "proper" is one that first takes for granted the "something" unexplainable by ordinary means, instead of one that could explain it within them. There's a burden of falsification you bear here that I'm afraid you're just not getting; the point of any scientific investigation is to disprove, not to definitively verify, a theory. "Something" isn't concrete enough to bear this burden- it's just moving the goal posts before they're ever set; and you're asking for a contradiction in terms if you're asking for "something" to be explained that you begin by saying cannot be.

And there's just not enough information available to answer your question about why the horn and the drum don't maintain their respective levels (though I think the suggestion about the built-in noise-equalization in most modern recording software is a good place to start)- software used? Input levels settings? EQ settings? Compression? (I can tell you as a recording musician that those things will make a big difference in how percussion will compete with other instruments for sound space) Microphone used? Distance between instruments and mic? Etc, etc. And maybe you could post a recording or two here for us to verify that there's something to explain to begin with.
 
Thanks for that post turingtest. I am not sure exactly what is happening hence asking. After reading up on shamanism, I began with recording a low hum in one key, and it disappeared within seconds from playback. I recorded a humming tune with different keys and it did not disappear. I then recorded a low hum and added a tapping sound, the tapping is present throughout whilst the hum disappears. I am now using a horn sound and a drum. My PC is a basic Samsung, with built-in microphone.
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To end my quarterly visit to this thread, my next step will not be to be scrutinised by Scientology or Ufology, or by any other such-like department, other than challenges. I shall continue to improve my understanding of their supernatural abilities and continue to spread their good will and healing nature by ways of many outlets.

Thank you.
 
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flaccon said:
I'd like to hear some theories here as to why when I record two instruments at once, does one instrument cancel itself out during playback, leaving just the noise of one instrument being played. Any idea's on this?
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Since there's no evidence whatsoever for any "canceling out ", no theories are necessary.

Earlier, you assured me you would propose a simple message relay test to the spirit world. Such a test would be very simple, and experimentally valid (as opposed to the gibberish you've been babbling about). What happened?
 
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Is indigofox still around? He said he does paranormal research/investigation - maybe he can give flaccon some helpful suggestions.

The only advice I can add at this point is that a little reverb goes a long way :D

flaccon, thanks for the update :)

Scordatura
 
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flaccon said:
All I can say is I have been as honest as one can be, under such a mix of strange activity. I side-stepped over to ASKE, the press and the P.I team for such "real" scrutiny. This is not a fantasy, it's actually a nightmare.
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ASKE found nothing out of the ordinary, "the press" prints nonsense everyday, and your PI team are fellow fantasists so idiotic they turn to a criminal organization known as the Church of Scientology for scientific inquiry. Meanwhile, you refuse to even consider the possibility of being wrong, and avoid any procedure capable of invalidating your claims. Classic fantasist behavior.
 
flaccon said:
I shall continue to improve my understanding of their supernatural abilities and continue to spread their good will and healing nature by ways of many outlets.
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It would be helpful it you could share the spirits' "meaning of life" message with the rest of the world. So far they've only succeeded in telling us that they don't do circus tricks and want us to burn cats' orifices.
 
flaccon said:
All I can say is I have been as honest as one can be, under such a mix of strange activity. I side-stepped over to ASKE, the press and the P.I team for such "real" scrutiny. This is not a fantasy, it's actually a nightmare.
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FWIW I have never doubted your honesty. The activity you report is not strange, only your interpretation of it. Why you persist in seeing the paranormal in perfectly ordinary examples of visual and audio pareidolia I do not know, but whatever the reason I sincerely hope you get over it and eventually find your way back to reality.
 
flaccon said:
I shall continue to improve my understanding of their supernatural abilities and continue to spread their good will and healing nature by ways of many outlets.

Thank you.
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I'd hate to think that those spirits were capable of curing something as serious as, say, cancer and are keeping it a secret until we fall into step with their chosen method of communication.

See you next quarter, I guess!
 
turingtest said:
...And there's just not enough information available to answer your question about why the horn and the drum don't maintain their respective levels (though I think the suggestion about the built-in noise-equalization in most modern recording software is a good place to start)- software used? Input levels settings? EQ settings? Compression? (I can tell you as a recording musician that those things will make a big difference in how percussion will compete with other instruments for sound space) Microphone used? Distance between instruments and mic? Etc, etc. And maybe you could post a recording or two here for us to verify that there's something to explain to begin with.
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Well put, turingtest.


flaccon said:
... After reading up on shamanism, I began with recording a low hum in one key, and it disappeared within seconds from playback. ...
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Shamanism?
Siberian or Suomi?
I'm not quite certain either works with electronic phenomena.


Scordatura said:
...flaccon, thanks for the update :)

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Seconded!
 
bluesjnr said:
I'd hate to think that those spirits were capable of curing something as serious as, say, cancer and are keeping it a secret until we fall into step with their chosen method of communication.

See you next quarter, I guess!
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All I can say is that someone who appears to take entirely for granted this "healing nature" of the spirits while asking questions about how they could manipulate sound recordings to make a horn sound "cancel" a drum sound may not be asking the questions in the best of faith- or, as Pixel42 says, is so lost in the fantasy that the disparity just doesn't register.
 
flaccon said:
All I can say is I have been as honest as one can be, under such a mix of strange activity. I side-stepped over to ASKE, the press and the P.I team for such "real" scrutiny. This is not a fantasy, it's actually a nightmare.
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flaccon said:
Thanks for that post turingtest. I am not sure exactly what is happening hence asking. After reading up on shamanism, I began with recording a low hum in one key, and it disappeared within seconds from playback. I recorded a humming tune with different keys and it did not disappear. I then recorded a low hum and added a tapping sound, the tapping is present throughout whilst the hum disappears. I am now using a horn sound and a drum. My PC is a basic Samsung, with built-in microphone.
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To end my quarterly visit to this thread, my next step will not be to be scrutinised by Scientology or Ufology, or by any other such-like department, other than challenges. I shall continue to improve my understanding of their supernatural abilities and continue to spread their good will and healing nature by ways of many outlets.

Thank you.
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Yet again, you show your confusion. Get yourself a psych evaluation from a different doctor, for these beliefs are having a negative effect on your thinking.
 
flaccon said:
The Paranormal evaluation is as expected. I had initially reported that it was not a standard haunting, and that my home was not being haunted, and therefore their equipment would be of no use. (their equipment being of no use was admitted at some point in their evaluation) I'd reluctantly called in the Paranormal team at the suggestion of the news reporter who could not get an angle on the case. He managed to sit through the evening, and admitted this "I just don't like it when they call my name out" He has not been heard of since, despite many weeks of myself and the paranormal team trying to contact his office, messages were left and ignored. Their evaluation is now prepared and ready for the news reporter to pen up a story. I doubt he can but I wish him the best of luck regarding his ignorance.
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It appears at this stage that flaccon found a reporter with a shaky grasp of reality and he's since had to quit work because of it.
 
Pixel42 said:
FWIW I have never doubted your honesty. The activity you report is not strange, only your interpretation of it. Why you persist in seeing the paranormal in perfectly ordinary examples of visual and audio pareidolia I do not know, but whatever the reason I sincerely hope you get over it and eventually find your way back to reality.
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Oh, I do so very much agree.
 
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