Caustic Logic
Illuminator
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- Apr 24, 2007
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What the hell could it be denial of? No case for anything was ever made there.
What definition of "case" are you using here? There is a broad case for false-flag snipers made there. Whatever one says about the evidence behind it, it's always underpinned by the massive motive difference - illustrated exactly by how poorly it turned out for Yanukovych. That's predictable, by either party.
And I've been making narrow sub-cases to add to the groundwork of considered evidence and possibilities - with extra care, even, discarding claims supporting my overall case but that don't pan out, and acknowledging correcting my few mistakes. Given the denial, games and obstructionism, dis-engament and ill-informed ridicule, and overall agreement boycott, I think I've done a good job of establishing stuff like this:
- Security forces were chased from the sniper massacre area - partly by insurgent snipers (or for some, riflemen shooting rifles including AK-47s at least from windows in several buildings they controlled) - right before the massacre by (presumed police) snipers (or for some, verified Berkut snipers, like the one seen "concealed" on the OP lawn - prior to the insurgents taking that place over, just before the massacre
- There may be a previously unidentified sniper nest high in the "Arcade" bank. I illustrated with a simple, evident window - of known shape and location - in a building with uncertain control and likely insurgent access - initially closed but opened right after government forces left. Considering that I noticed it right on the line I made by tracing one of two mappable sniping trajectories I've identified ... I propose there's a sniper in that window.
That's not a certainty of anything, but it's grounded in evidence, it's compelling, new, and worth actual consideration. But that case has been met with breathless denial and laughs, and the aforementioned weasel cartoons, as part of the shape game. I just learned from the people in question that math and "research" are needed to identify a rectangle! They won't even agree on the shape of what can be nothing but that rectangular window, as I've shown on video.
That's the kind of nonsense you (and the clowns) call "criticism of poor critical thinking." A man who says he survived the sniper massacre and says they were shot partly from the Hotel is dismissed because Uke2se thinks he sounds "like an idiot." Etc.
You do agree that resulting to insults and labeling is poor style, though, do you not?
Depends. Best avoided, up to a point. If you refer to "clown," it's one of my favorites for just past that point.
In any case, with regards to denial, what do you think of Putin using unmarked troops to take the Crimea, or neo-Nazis for election validation? You know, the US invaded Iraq, are they still there? Will Russia still have Crimea (and maybe more) in 10 years? Is this about decrying aggression, or chosing sides? Isn't the cold war over? Do we want it to return?
I don't have much to say. I haven't kept up on these enough to say anything of value one way or another.