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If the Bible were meaningless then why is it being studied and argued over Why was information regarding its literature kept secreted?
Because some people are superstitious. The Quran gets just as much attention.

Do you imply that ancient human beings were all illiterate?
I never said that.

Many individuals have stated that mathematical randomness was involved in the Bible. Studying the Bible has produced particular models of information for perusal.
As the incident revealed in the Bible related to Iran, and Iran involved in nuclear products, this was what America actually feared regarding Terrorism and an attack on America.
http://www.realbiblecodes.com/torah_codes/atomic_war/atomic-war-1.php
There are equally accurate codes found in Moby Dick.

If you imply that the American Government do not believe in prophecy, why have they studied prophetical information?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1727/did-the-u-s-government-fund-psychic-research
And why did they abandon it as utterly useless?

Instead if you apply the method the ancients used regarding "building" as a secret brotherhood as per Masons display in their orders, orders apply to an ancient method of wisdom. Barbara Thiering displayed this in her own review. Ancient human beings denoted themselves personally from out of the religious documents via a level of order of wisdom. Hence women in the order would call themselves a Mary or a Miriam etc.
Absolute rubbish.

Wisdom involved many different literary functions and applications.
Name them.

The WORD OF GOD, states values for WORDS.
The WORD for TECTONIC is from tectonicus or tekton a carpenter or builder.
In geology tectonic states resulting from changes in the structure of earth's crust, reference Websters.
So what?

Why has study of the Giza Pyramid produced so many theories and applications that demonstrate scientific reasoning? You seem to imply that there is no logical reasoning to ancient building structures, yet reviews of the building structures imply otherwise.
Do not attempt to put your words in my mouth.

Therefore Iran, an ancient Earth site demonstrates Biblical disasters regarding the earth crust.
Evidence please.

1. the Muslim tradition for reverencing a black meteor said to be dated to the times of adam and eve.
http://home.comcast.net/~georgesaunders/ancient.html

2. Some of the ancient ziggurats of Iran and Iraq also contain vitrified material, The vitrification process.
A team of chemists on Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World subjected rock samples from 11 forts to rigorous chemical analysis, and stated that the temperatures needed to produce the vitrification were so intense--up to 1,100°C--that a simple burning of walls with wood interlaced with stone could not have achieved such temperatures.

You imply that research is evidence of scientific wisdom, yet read the following
http://www.itsnature.org/news/oops-oldest-evidence-of-life-turns-out-to-be-iron-deposits/

Quote regarding myth and science
http://www.ciesm.org/online/monographs/Santorin.pdf
All irrelevant.

If you consider this story, that the country in Iran, pock marked with many holes demonstrates to have had its "wood" or forest destroyed. That the Ark, not actually a vessel, but a UFO formed by the Sun that attacks the Earth. The wood found in this area would have been forestry, not an actual vessel.
http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/...en-Found-Why-Are-They-Keeping-Us-In-The-Dark-
Noahs Ark is a fable for children.


Stone and metal balls said to be formed naturally around 3 billion years ago.
http://rt.com/news/sphere-ufo-space-brazil-103/
So what?

Many other photographs of metallic UFO bodies witnessed.
Dismissed for lack of evidence.

Liquid inside of the UFO body.....doesn't this seem to have a relationship to being "sprayed" by a chemical reaction falling out of the sky?
Only in your mind.

The Age of Uranium.....Uranium being converted.....The Sun sending UFO bodies to Earth because of the conversion.
https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100915155303AAorlm8
Meaningless.
 
I idly dream to myself, "Imagine a game of line-length tennis. Whoever gets the longest reply from Wendy gets a point."

Hmmm. Strawberries and cream.
 
Perhaps it's performance art? The contortions used to create links between unrelated concepts is worthy of Cirque Du Soleil
 
You obviously have not studied the purpose of myth.

Myth from mythos meaning word, speech, story, legend.

Legend, to "read". Legend also relates to keys and maps.

Science, theory applies to PHI harmonics as keys and maps. Star maps.

What is related to the holy story? Holy Star.

Orion is a prominent constellation located on the celestial equator and visible ... The stars of Orion were associated with Osiris, the sun-god of rebirth

...
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Myths are tall tales from the past... Not even from the remote past.. Paul Bunyan and his ox Babe aren't that old, relative to Osiris, or Abraham, or Gilgamesh... tall tales all!
In English, many words have meanings which differ depending on the context of the statement. Legend is obviously one of these. Talking about gods, that's one meaning. Talking about maps is another, and completely different intent for that word.
Your shotgun approach that connects everything to everything else when convenient to you mangles common English usage.
Makes for too long, didn't read (tldr) posts by you.
Assemble your thoughts more clearly.
 
Because some people are superstitious. The Quran gets just as much attention.

I never said that.

There are equally accurate codes found in Moby Dick.

And why did they abandon it as utterly useless?

Absolute rubbish.

Name them.

So what?

Do not attempt to put your words in my mouth.

Evidence please.

All irrelevant.

Noahs Ark is a fable for children.


So what?

Dismissed for lack of evidence.

Only in your mind.

Meaningless.

The Modern Hebrew name is “nun”, a Hebrew word meaning continue, offspring or heir. This two-letter word is the original name for the letter.

The Hebrew teachings reviewed to be a version of the Catholic Teachings. The Catholic call the Holy female a Nun who is in service to the Church.

The Mary's or females in ancient literature stated to be the heir. Therefore the religious culture did use literature terms as relationships in personal orders.

Wisdom

the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgement; the quality of being wise.

"listen to his words of wisdom"

synonyms:

sagacity, sageness, intelligence, understanding, insight, perception, perceptiveness, percipience, penetration, perspicuity, acuity, discernment, sense, good sense, common sense, shrewdness, astuteness, acumen, smartness, judiciousness, judgement, foresight, clear-sightedness, prudence, circumspection;

Sophism is a method of teaching. In ancient Greece, sophists were a category of teachers who specialized in using the techniques of philosophy and rhetoric for the purpose of teaching arete—excellence, or virtue—predominantly to young statesmen and nobility. The practice of charging money for education and providing wisdom only to those who could pay led to the condemnations made by Socrates, through Plato in his dialogues, as well as Xenophon's Memorabilia. Through works such as these, Sophists were portrayed as "specious" or "deceptive", hence the modern meaning of the term.

The term originated from Greek σόφισμα, sophisma, from σοφίζω, sophizo "I am wise"; confer σοφιστής, sophistēs, meaning "wise-ist, one who does wisdom," and σοφός, sophós means "wise man".

Hence secretly by virtue of sophist literature they were PHI lo SOPHER

The term for sopher
A Sofer, Sopher, Sofer SeTaM, or Sofer ST"M is a Jewish scribe who can transcribe Torah scrolls, tefillin and mezuzot, and other religious writings. By simple definition, a sofer is a copyist, but in their religious role in Judaism they are much more.

THE ARK
stated by many who have perused the dialogues and the numeracy values to belong to a "building function"

https://www.creationism.org/patten/PattenSiteNoahsArk.html

We have the witnessing and photographing of UFO bodies.

The UFO phenomena or meteor phenomena in Russia attacking a specific situation, a forest.

In the Ark the story relates to flooding after the wood is built.

As a theorist what would you ascertain are comments that relate to a disaster situation involving documented historical Earth timed events? Comments that were relative to our current life situation involving those who presume themselves intelligent, who have secret intelligent languages and also apply secret methods of wisdom (Scientists)?

An archaeologist and geologist trying to demonstrate Earth factors relating to Biblical accounts would find evidence of the disaster.

You would also have information regarding ancient literature symbolism, such as the EYE OF RA, and the reference that it related to the Sun.

The ARK discussed in various models in the text describe different applications involved in its building.

Wood would therefore demonstrate to be involved in a disaster situation involving phenomena, as seen in Russia. The EYE, relative to PHI harmonics and calculations of the SUN atomic values would represent a situation of hitting and marking the Earth stone.

If you peruse the earth stone, she is marked with PHI sound bodies in the stone itself. The ARK would look like an eye shape, and the evidence would involve wood.

Many other world mystery sites have also demonstrated that a huge loss of trees happened in a small time period, which was a cause for further investigation involving the lifting of monolithic structures (such as on Easter Island).

The biblical literature involved in a Revelation concerned America regarding Iran and a nuclear attack. Yet when the UFO phenomena is reviewed, it demonstrates to be witnessed at earthquake sites, and Iran a country that demonstrates anomalies (such as meteor hits) is also having many earthquakes. The Year 2003 earthquake also demonstrated to have affected America's "nuclear" in the values I discussed
1. Columbia burning up on re-entry regarding "window"
2. The Biblical secret in Hebrew is HE window and EL God (HELL)
3. Mad cow disease, cows demonstrated to be attacked in UFO incidences
4. Combustion of a forest.

Also is the phenomena witnessed by pilots, as UFO following the planes, or hitting the planes. Flying involves moving through the air or causing sound to break. If the atmosphere has changed because of nuclear conversion, then the observations seem to demonstrate that it is a fact.

I think it obvious myself that if UFO's demonstrate to be metallic, the earth stone bonds also having metal in them, and electromagnetism involved in life, then altering the bonds changed magnetism, and it would be why metallic UFO
are attracted to metal planes.
 
Several corrections

Ms. Moir,

I wish to discuss only two items in your last posting.

First, you make a false connection between the name for the Hebrew letter and the English word to describe women in the service of the Catholic Church.

The Oxford English Dictionary online lists the following etymology for nun:

Cognate with Middle Dutch (rare) nunne, Middle Low German nunne, Old High German nunna (Middle High German nunne, nune, German (regional) Nunne, Nunn, Nune), Old Icelandic nunna, Old Swedish nunna (Swedish nunna) < post-classical Latin nonna nun, feminine form corresponding to nonnus monk (both attested from late 4th cent., also in senses wet-nurse, foster father, respectively, recorded on inscriptions; compare Byzantine Greek νόννα, νόννος), originally a term of reverence for the elderly, probably a children's word. Compare Anglo-Norman noune, Anglo-Norman and Old French nune (c1155), nunne (c1200), Anglo-Norman and Old French, Middle French, French nonne (13th cent.), Italian nonno grandfather (a1528), nonna grandmother (a1535; a1419 in sense ‘wet-nurse’), Sardinian nonnu grandfather, nonna grandmother, mother-in-law, godmother. The β forms probably partly show later reborrowing of, or remodelling after, the post-classical Latin word or its Anglo-Norman and Old French reflex (compare similarly Middle Dutch nonne (Dutch non), Middle Low German nonne, Middle High German nonne, German Nonne, Old Swedish nonna, Danish nonne), and partly result from disambiguation of a succession of minim strokes in manuscripts.
As you will note, none (pun intended) of these has any connection to the name of the Hebrew letter 'nun', any more than they have to the name of the English name for the Latin alphabet letter: 'en'.

Similarly, the American English name for the last letter in the English version of the Latin alphabet (z), 'zee" does not mean that it equals the Dutch word for 'sea', zee. And of course, the British (Australian?) name for the letter is 'zed'.

Furthermore, the meaning of the Italian and Sardinian words has no connection with the meaning of the the English word.

False etymologies do not help your assertions.


Second, you wrote that:

"The Hebrew teachings reviewed to be a version of the Catholic Teachings."[my emphasis]
(I don't know what you mean by "reviewed to be" but I suspect is is something like "are considered to be.")

You have this relationship backward. The Hebrew teachings predate the Catholic teachings by many hundreds of years. One cannot claim earlier works to have been written as versions of later ones.

If your statement were to be closer to correct, it would have to say that the Catholic teachings were modeled on the Hebrew ones, as in part they were.

Getting literary history wrong doesn't help your case either.

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I know Hell isn't a concept just started by Judeo Christians but if there are classical scholars on board when do you start reading of Heaven and Hell? I can imagine if a Religionist has a stone engraved with social rules but people ignore it: then the idea of reward and punishment arises. Only natural. Does anyone know when that moment was when these were born?

HELL
The literal terms in a secret order demonstrate values only discussed among the orders.
HE a Hebrew value for window
EL Hebrew value for God

Brotherhoods discussing the acts of creation of Earth and her atmosphere as theorists giving values by use of reason.

HEAVEN
HE Hebrew value for window
AVEN trouble, wickedness, sorrow trouble, sorrow
idolatry
trouble of iniquity, wickedness
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/aven.html

The creation story, because of evil creation got created. Therefore the words give the reasoning in the discussion regarding evil residing in the state of Heaven.

AVEN also a reason to call Mother AVE (Mary) who immaculately conceived the spirit of the CHRIST.

Even today Scientists imply the value of the atmosphere and its windows.

Wikipedia
These windows depend upon the position of celestial bodies and orbits relative to the launch site. The biggest influence is often the rotation of the Earth itself. Once launched, orbits are normally located within relatively constant flat planes at a fixed angle to the axis of the Earth, and the Earth rotates within this orbit.
 
Greetings all,

A recent short book summarises the Jesus Myth theory by listing 10 myths about Christianity that turn out not to be true. That book is :

"Nailed - 10 Christian Myths that show Jesus never existed at all."
by David Fitzgerald.

Earl Doherty says of this book :


Robert M. Price says :


Richard C. Carrier says :



The ten myths are :
  • Myth 1 - The idea that Jesus was a myth is ridiculous
  • Myth 2 - Jesus was wildly famous - but ...
  • Myth 3 - Ancient Historian Josephus wrote about Jesus
  • Myth 4 - Eye-witnesses wrote the Gospels
  • Myth 5 - The Gospels give a consistent picture of Jesus
  • Myth 6 - History confirms the Gospels
  • Myth 7 - Archeology confirms the Gospels
  • Myth 8 - Paul and the epistles corroborate the Gospels
  • Myth 9 - Christianity began with Jesus and his apostles
  • Myth 10 - Christianity was totally new and different

I will probably follow later with summaries of some of these points, depending on which points readers draw attention to.

Kapyong

The WORD of GOD is a textual explanation of acts in creation, just as it states.

Latin, being used to hide secret recordings of astronomical details as a secret order were curtailed by a re-writing of the scripts into an English translation. It is why the English language gives letter values numerical values of a reference not applied for any form of literal purpose, rather a secret purpose.

Therefore if you apply theory to the WORD of GOD, it begins to reveal circumstances not previously known in public scrutiny.

A-Z 26 letters reveal important symbolic references as does alphabeta the alphabet. Alpha and beta observed functions in creation.

Morning Light was a reference used as AM. The letters A to M = value 13.
12 given the value for counting time.

The Christ was given a value of 1000, as the letter M is given a value of 1000. 13 a middle value. M = 1000 (13th letter) Z = 2000 (13th letter) in a sequence.

12 + 1 = 13 as the Holy 12 and the Holy 1 Christ.

If you note that the end letter Z, is given a value of 2,000. Christ and Satan both values as 1000 each.

NAIL as a hidden reference in the WORD.

AIL as a worded meaning description is "pain", to be the cause of pain.

N = value 90

Christ on the + cross = 90 180 270 360 to form a body on the cross O = 360.

NAIL = Christ by N through a value of 90 being "nailed".

Time = 12 O the Holy body following the cross of NAIL

1 to 13 = O 12 bodies in time

13 = the Holy Body in the middle value 1000 for Christ crossing

The Hebrew value for AIN = no thing as a value representing a term zero 0

In the Hebrew system there was no value for 0
Rome gave a value to 0 as a reference to Jesus Christ on the Cross.

P value 400 the same as the letter for G
PAIN value as the NAIL.

M 1000 N 90 O body on the cross P

Values for MNOP (4) the value of the cross +

The letter G beginning the WORD OF GOD.

Therefore when you apply secret methods you gain a completely hidden review that seems to actually imply a real meaning to spiritual bodies as per aspects known as Acts in Creation through 12 holy bodies.
 
You infer that I am providing an opinion, why else is a forum on the internet asking questions and also giving personal opinions? Isn't this what the discussion is used for, personal opinion?
No one is questioning your right to state your opinions. Your problem is that your opinions are often stated as if they were self-evident facts, when often they are either unsupported or just plain wrong.

You also infer that scientific fact or scientific observation is fact, yet this is also personal opinion based on personal studies motivated by personal reasons.
No, you don't understand science at all. Scientific theories are merely description of how the universe works, which are consistent with actual observations about how things work. Your claims about physical phenomena, when they are coherent enough to evaluate, don't match observed reality; they often don't even match each other.

In other words, much of what you say isn't even self-consistent, let alone correct. You keep using scientific terms you find on the Internet, but not in any consistent fashion, because you don't understand them. For example, you have used "radiation" in the context of heat transfer, ionizing radiation, sound, radio waves, and goodness knows what else. That you don't understand the differences is obvious. When people who do understand correct you, you refuse to learn anything; you simply throw up distractive walls of text and irrelevant references you don't understand. That doesn't fool anyone, but more importantly it doesn't help you.

You imply that scientific observation is not incorrect or destructive to life? You also infer that illegal scientific practices are not undertaken by scientific pursuits and that Government's do not keep their illegal activities secreted?
Irrelevant and distractive; I have done nothing of the sort. I must say, however, it's amusing that your anti-science, anti-government screed on the Internet is made possible by a U.S. defense agency (DARPA) invention (the Internet), a protocol (World Wide Web) invented at a high-energy physics lab, and a host of sciences and technologies ranging from quantum and solid-state physics (the semiconductors in all the computers and routers) to electrical engineering (signal transmission, power) to petroleum geology (petrochemical-based products making up much of your computer) to general relativity (GPS timing for timeservers) and on and on. Frankly, without all that nasty science, you'd be ranting to yourself.


You also imply by your personal comments that you know all implications involved with NASA,
No, I don't. I said I am familiar with much of what NASA does and how it works, and nothing you have claimed is even remotely like that. You're simply making up a secret occult program that has nothing to do with what NASA is observed to do, and you have no evidence for this fantasy other than your own claims.

therefore as the contractor are you CIA?
Poisoning the well. Wendy, claiming everyone who disagrees with you is some sort of spook is nothing more than a way to avoid considering you might be wrong about something.

There's clearly no point in interacting with you anymore, as your idee fixe does not admit rational discussion. I wish you well, and hope you get someone compassionate and competent to talk to. Good luck.
 
Something to pique Wendy's interest.. and maybe contribute to the physicists needing some guidance on where to go next...????:rolleyes:
 

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I wanna believe wendy is just a disconnected person, But I swear I can't help but think this is part of someones robotic language program. It's unrelated tangent after unrelated tangent followed by even further unrelated tangents.
 
Apparently the Annals was written in the 2nd century.

" Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

Glad I could set you straight! ;)

For a discussion of Tacitus:

"For the next 300 years, no Christian commentator makes any reference to Nero’s slaughter of the Roman Christians for setting the Great Fire. Not just to Tacitus’ account of such an event, but to the event itself as something known in Christian tradition. That it would not be known is impossible. That it would not be referred to in any connection is almost equally impossible.

...

Other aspects to the question of authenticity in regard to Tacitus’ alleged witness to Jesus are discussed in my book (Jesus: Neither God Nor Man by Earl Dohery). I bring the subject up in some detail here to show that,

*despite Ehrman’s dismissal of mythicists as compulsive interpolation advocates, there is indeed very good justification for rejecting the much-vaunted reference to an historical Jesus in Tacitus;

*and to show that Ehrman made no effort to counter or even mention that 25-page argument.

In fact, the only rebuttal offered is once again the old appeal to authority:
I don’t know of any trained classicists or scholars of ancient Rome who think this, and it seems highly unlikely. (DJE? p. 55)"


http://vridar.org/2012/04/23/5-earl...-ehrmans-case-against-mythicism-a-roman-trio/

In future it might be a good idea to acquaint yourself with current scholarship on the issue.

Even Bart Ehrman dismisses the Tacitus passage:

"...the information [in Tacitus] is not particularly helpful in establishing that there really lived a man called Jesus."

If anyone is arguing authenticity, then shouldn't the argument relating to literature be argued, not the context?

I say this because it is observed by many authors that the brotherhoods were involved in secret teachings.

There is a book that was written by Many P Hall, called the Secret Teachings of all Ages.

Hence many authors have looked at the textual discussions of Jesus and then also myth as relationship values in the discussions.

For instance to "nail" involves hammering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythological_objects

A thorn, comes from a rose bush. The term for a rose involving the Christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor
Thor and the hammer involves thunder, lightning, storms, the protection of mankind, healing and fertility.

These are all associated factors discussed as the Christ in relationship to hidden meanings.

As I stated in the Historical Jesus discussion, 0, a mathematical use was not used by calendar dating, as per Roman Empire demonstrated, having altered their calendar dating process many years before.

The Hebrews also did not have a value for 0, but they had a term expression called AIN.

P the English version of Latin expression was given a written value of 400, the same as the letter G for God.

P+AIN therefore quantified 400 at a mathematical position of 0.

The story of the Christ verified that a 0 position for counting was given a calendar reference. In 33 AD the earthquake disaster "being hammered" by the God.

Therefore if the Christ, given a secret Holy spiritual value relating to the spirit of Heaven, being the atmosphere that gives us life, an atmosphere that is a diaphanous body, then wouldn't it be obvious that a spiritual situation DID OCCUR.

This would involve a spiritual manifestation in the spirit body, the atmosphere.

Just as witnessed in today's atmosphere the Holy Mother vision.

What is being argued over in the discussions is actually relevant to the term of HOLY BODY.

Why do we see visions? Because we SEE.

Was is the Catholic statement? The HOLY SEE.

What is the Christ value given on the cross, when he is nailed?

6.

What is the Christ Holy statement? SION

What is the value given to six as letters? VI

VISION, therefore is a quantifiable statement that involves VISION that is caused when the atmosphere is attacked, just as what happened in RUSSIA.

Spirit, an ethereal body, a diaphanous body. Clouds formed in this body.

Visions seen in clouds. Vision can therefore be witnessed in the atmosphere.

What is argued over is the value involving SEEING, whether paranormal is a real situation or an invented situation. Both situations seem to apply.

Therefore I would propose that in this ancient era, because of atmospheric changes, the HOLY VISIONS were witnessed and documented.
 

If Mary gives birth to Jesus, yet by concept the Acts of Jesus involve immense torture and an unholy situation as a review, then I propose that the story should be revised to be actually discussed as an unholy attack on the Spirit of Life.

Humanity has always referenced our natural life to be created by Mother Nature, and the female the holy body who births the Christ that ends in a cruel unholy act of her own child caused by human betrayal.

For any one of us to question the relevance of God and this cruel act, would be to ascertain that a Creator would cruelly condemn a holy life for the purpose of life continuance? Yet in those same documents it states that God does not allow by Law for murder.

If Christ was condemned to allow us to live, why is it that our life is stil full of pain and suffering and misery.....aren't the applications involving these teachings implied to have removed us from these acts?

Therefore skeptics review the religious teachings and question the religious fanatics who maintain that these teachings are of holiness, yet when reviewed they imply the opposite. What if the situation reveals and demonstrates that it is actually unholiness in these acts and that humanity controlled by religious leaders have been manipulated and lied to regarding the actual implication involved in spiritual awareness itself?

What if you were the human beings causing the death of humanity by using sound lifting techniques that changed atomic stone bonds and had to hide the situation from public scrutiny so that they would not be condemned themselves for breaking natural law conditions?

Human beings suddenly gain plagues such as stigmata, blood oozing from the pores called the Holy Christ and ask the High Priests what was happening and were lied to implying that it involved a holy act.

In fact it demonstrates to be unholy, as ebola determines by its STIGMATA. What if Ancient Philosophers who were advised by other Philosophers to not apply stone lifting techniques LEVI, ignored the warning signs and caused plagues, diseases and also natural disasters? What if they lied to you!

Why would contradiction be allowed as the Law of God (not breaking the stone (atomic bonds)), if not actually involving a total Philosophical review that was never actually taught in the social community. Rather the information as a mathematical and alchemical circumstance was kept secreted.

http://www.womeninthebible.net/1.7.Miriam.htm
The English name "Mary" comes from the Greek Μαρία, which is a shortened form of Μαριάμ. The New Testament name was based on her original Hebrew name מִרְיָם or Miriam or Miryam. [9] Both Μαρία and Μαριάμ appear in the New Testament.

Story of Miriam
http://www.gci.org/bible/torah/miriam

Think about the relevance of what the Roman scriptures quantified that Christ would return in 1000 years. If it related to a real human life then how could it possibly reference a return status?

If Rome knew that by applying sound levitation (breaking stone bonds on an atomic sound level) caused the Heavenly holy body to be attacked, then wouldn't this be the review status.......in a 1,000 years the radiation they caused to leak out of the stone would be healed in the atmosphere, causing the holy body situation of Mother/Child as the immaculate to return as a normal circumstance.

Applying radiation experiments therefore stopped the holy return, and this is actually what the mathematical/spiritual implication is discussing?
 
HELL
The literal terms in a secret order demonstrate values only discussed among the orders.
HE a Hebrew value for window
EL Hebrew value for God

Brotherhoods discussing the acts of creation of Earth and her atmosphere as theorists giving values by use of reason.

HEAVEN
HE Hebrew value for window
AVEN trouble, wickedness, sorrow trouble, sorrow
idolatry
trouble of iniquity, wickedness
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/aven.html

The creation story, because of evil creation got created. Therefore the words give the reasoning in the discussion regarding evil residing in the state of Heaven.

AVEN also a reason to call Mother AVE (Mary) who immaculately conceived the spirit of the CHRIST.

Even today Scientists imply the value of the atmosphere and its windows.

Wikipedia
These windows depend upon the position of celestial bodies and orbits relative to the launch site. The biggest influence is often the rotation of the Earth itself. Once launched, orbits are normally located within relatively constant flat planes at a fixed angle to the axis of the Earth, and the Earth rotates within this orbit.

You do realize that heaven and hell are actually quite specifically English words that have nothing to do with Hebrew, right?

Oh... err... guess not.
 
You do realize that heaven and hell are actually quite specifically English words that have nothing to do with Hebrew, right?

Oh... err... guess not.

As I speak and use the English language, of course I do.

Hebrew the more ancient version of literature discussing God or Yehovah as a Creator when reviewed as a literal translation allows the hidden Philosophical meanings to be understood.

Philosophers, many of whom followed sophism used word values to hide intelligent meanings within. Today we call this egotism.
 
Religion has by observed information been involved in the discussions and informed statements of science.
Religion is the basis for secret orders/brotherhoods to have been formed.
Religion today is still involved in science and scientific pursuits, even though the information of religion relates that the "burnt spirit" is evil and destroys spiritual life.
Spiritual life is by observation our atmospheric condition, as both an ethereal body, a Heavenly body and a life source body.

Scientists who by Government connections and through secret brotherhood associations are involved in the continued occult study of religious evil by purposeful intent. These associations involve the motivation for greedy power mongering human beings to purposefully be involved in the occult studies of humanity.

Illegal Science as an occult version of Science is therefore being employed by the American Government because of this ancient association to information of occult science.

As the American Government has failed in their economic world market, they are now employing illegal study methods of the occult science supported by the elite and greedy humans who want the following
1. to remain in a worldwide power position through monetary gain
2. to utilize the occult situation to benefit their purpose
3. the occult is involved in mind contact and mind control
4. NASA, involved in many years of subsidized occult mind/brain studies involving occult situations is utilizing the support of these individuals in illegal scientific practices

Still incoherent. Still wrong.
 
Ms. Moir,

I wish to discuss only two items in your last posting.

First, you make a false connection between the name for the Hebrew letter and the English word to describe women in the service of the Catholic Church.

The Oxford English Dictionary online lists the following etymology for nun:

As you will note, none (pun intended) of these has any connection to the name of the Hebrew letter 'nun', any more than they have to the name of the English name for the Latin alphabet letter: 'en'.

Similarly, the American English name for the last letter in the English version of the Latin alphabet (z), 'zee" does not mean that it equals the Dutch word for 'sea', zee. And of course, the British (Australian?) name for the letter is 'zed'.

Furthermore, the meaning of the Italian and Sardinian words has no connection with the meaning of the the English word.

False etymologies do not help your assertions.


Second, you wrote that:

(I don't know what you mean by "reviewed to be" but I suspect is is something like "are considered to be.")

You have this relationship backward. The Hebrew teachings predate the Catholic teachings by many hundreds of years. One cannot claim earlier works to have been written as versions of later ones.

If your statement were to be closer to correct, it would have to say that the Catholic teachings were modeled on the Hebrew ones, as in part they were.

Getting literary history wrong doesn't help your case either.

xterra
When you talk about a Biblical or historic Jesus and then rationalize a skeptic review, you first review the latest story line to then review its historical journey. This is the only way that any human being implies a negation involving history that they assume is fake.

The term for Nun has a history. It may be used differently in a modern version, but the ancient version has a preceding reference.

As religion is about personal review and personal applications, using word values demonstrates that Hebrew literature was used by Roman scribes and Roman hierarchy as choices relating to their own revised religious pursuits.
 
When you talk about a Biblical or historic Jesus and then rationalize a skeptic review, you first review the latest story line to then review its historical journey. This is the only way that any human being implies a negation involving history that they assume is fake.

The term for Nun has a history. It may be used differently in a modern version, but the ancient version has a preceding reference.

As religion is about personal review and personal applications, using word values demonstrates that Hebrew literature was used by Roman scribes and Roman hierarchy as choices relating to their own revised religious pursuits.

In other words, your claim of a connection between the Hebrew and English words was fraudulent - once you strip away all the blather and obsfucation.
 

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