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[Reno]

flaccon, when you type a post, BEFORE you submit it, just highlight all you have typed (you can do this by holding down the Ctrl key, and tap the 'A' key), then copy (hold down the Ctrl key, and tap the 'C' key).

Then if you 'lose' your post, you won't have to type it all out again - just go into the posting window and paste the text you copied. (you do this by clicking inside the posting box to make sure your cursor is in there, then hold down the Ctrl key and tap the 'V' key.

Hope this helps you in the future as we don't want to miss any important updates from you.

 

[tsig]

Well, I think we can lay to rest the mystery of the Chief Reporter. Is it a coincidence that the editor in chief of Squid Fishing Monthly is no attending this thread? I think not!

C'mon Stray Cat! Out with it. You're planning an Ides of March special edition, right? There have to be a dozen good articles in this thread.

> Felis Satanicus - Cats Wit Bowels Problems From Hell
> The Ghosts in the Cable to the Machine
> Grief Counciling: Letting Go of the Dead, Even if They're Not
> Seven Deadly Mistakes Publicity Seekers Make
> How to Get Blood Stains Out of Clothing - Er, How to Get the Most out of Blood Stains, rather.

>Trolling for Skeptics: Bait Selection and Presentation, Timing and Location.

 

[Kid Eager]

I was actually thinking I should go to HM Samuels and ask their opinion. There are no external chips and the diamond itself had a great sparkle for 19+ years. The internal smashes are clear to the naked eye, under magnification it's worthless. Same goes for the trilogy ring.
No confirmation from an expert no.

With all due respect, you lack the necessary expertise to make this pronouncement. I would not make this call, and I do gemology as a hobby.

 

[Cassidy]

flaccon, when you type a post, BEFORE you submit it, just highlight all you have typed (you can do this by holding down the Ctrl key, and tap the 'A' key), then copy (hold down the Ctrl key, and tap the 'C' key).

Then if you 'lose' your post, you won't have to type it all out again - just go into the posting window and paste the text you copied. (you do this by clicking inside the posting box to make sure your cursor is in there, then hold down the Ctrl key and tap the 'V' key.

Hope this helps you in the future as we don't want to miss any important updates from you.

Ok that works thanks

 

[Cassidy]

With all due respect, you lack the necessary expertise to make this pronouncement. I would not make this call, and I do gemology as a hobby.

Well I know how silly I would feel so I'll take your advice and put up with the smashes.

 

[Cassidy]

>Trolling for Skeptics: Bait Selection and Presentation, Timing and Location.

Trolling? I headed straight for sceptics because they look for logic. If it was Paredolia I'd just cash in with the art and accept it, but they are more than voices on PC, and more than just artists, and I recognise a few voices amongst the many.

 

[Donn]

Tracy, when you take a photo of your diamond and post it here, be aware that the spirits will probably interfere. They will unsmash the diamond just as the photo is taken, or they will unsmash it on the digital image file.
They will do this because they clearly say they do not do card tricks - meaning they will not suffer testing of any sort.
It's best not to notice their activities and just be polite when they speak to you. After a while they might even move on to someone else.

 

[Cassidy]

Your perception that a recording has changed is not objective evidence.

Have you agreed a test protocol with ASKE? The success criteria will be specified, and I'm quite sure that it won't be "flaccon thinks she can hear a difference".

No but it's finally left in the hands of ASKE to work something worthy out. I don't expect to pass with "flaccon thinks she can hear a difference"

 

[trustbutverify]

Pixel, the recording was described as a constant noise of rain and a whirring fan. I listened into it from Robs PC. I was satisfied it was accurately described (here on the thread) When I played it through this PC, it is nothing like the description, nor like what I'd heard the first time round. I wasn't mistaken, that was my second attempt. Robs was my first.

This. Isn't. Evidence. Of. Anything.

A) Who or what determines if a significant change has occurred? What objective mechanism will be employed to compare the original recording to the so called "altered" version?

B) So you're conducting a test in which a positive result confirms your claim, but a negative result means nothing? That's ridiculous.

Could you please just address these two questions directly and specifically?

 

[Pixel42]

No but it's finally left in the hands of ASKE to work something worthy out. I don't expect to pass with "flaccon thinks she can hear a difference"

I'm glad you understand this.

I look forward to hearing what test protocol ASKE come up with.

 

[Cassidy]

Tracy, when you take a photo of your diamond and post it here, be aware that the spirits will probably interfere. They will unsmash the diamond just as the photo is taken, or they will unsmash it on the digital image file.
They will do this because they clearly say they do not do card tricks - meaning they will not suffer testing of any sort.
It's best not to notice their activities and just be polite when they speak to you. After a while they might even move on to someone else.

Ok thanks good advice apart from "Its best not to notice their activities" not sure how that works. I'll not ignore my Father/Mother/Sister, and I can't ignore the other spirit's ability to control my breath and blood flow. So I'm stuck looking like the idiot until I can prove supernatural is afoot.

 

[Donn]

Pixel42 asks nicely re objective evidence. Tracy replies:

Pixel, the recording was described as a constant noise of rain and a whirring fan. I listened into it from Robs PC. I was satisfied it was accurately described (here on the thread) When I played it through this PC, it is nothing like the description, nor like what I'd heard the first time round. I wasn't mistaken..

Just lol.

"Ma'am, that's your head. On your shoulders, that thing, you know?"
"But I tell you my head is on my chest. It's always been there. Hey.. Why are you staring at my bosom?!"
"Bec.. Because you said it was your head, so I'm being polite."
"Well, it's rude. I'm up here." Fingers pointing, with a little indignant emphasizing upward jiggle.
"Okay. Uh, sorry. At least you agree where your head is now."
Puzzled look. "Nope, it's on my chest."
"Um..." Gaze falls once more.
"Hey!"

 

[Cassidy]

I'm glad you understand this.

I look forward to hearing what test protocol ASKE come up with.

I found that sceptic circle you mentioned way back (on facebook) I think they could help me with some pre testing. I'll sort something on those lines. There is no urgency with ASKE now that the press and the P.I team are handling it. My second request with ASKE is because I'd like to see if the spirits can deliver what they say they can, a second time round under scrutiny.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

If the site didn't keep logging me out I'd not lose so many posts, sorry.

When you log in, make sure you have the "remember me" checkbox checked. Also make sure you allow cookies from this site.

You should never find yourself logged out again.

 

[Reno]

There is no urgency with ASKE now that the press and the P.I team are handling it.

Does your P.I team have a dog? Do they have devices? We do. You have a bunch of amateurs working for you.

If you have a problem - If no one else can help - and if you can find them - maybe you can hire the RRI-Team

(we also have a van)

(but not a helicopter)

 

[Cassidy]

And nothing to test the blood against (uness you have managed to get hold of a sample of Christ's blood, or maybe His hairbrush).

To be realistic, I could be dealing with a bunch of religious spirits who replicate signs of Christ with no real outcome. So far I've witnessed raised dead? 2 healings and 75 pieces of art intended for charity. I can't overlook that something so positive is afoot. The fact that they harp on about Angels, creatures and the devil, I'd say if there is a spirit world, that sort of conversation would be their norm.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

I'll not ignore my Father/Mother/Sister, and I can't ignore the other spirit's ability to control my breath and blood flow. So I'm stuck looking like the idiot until I can prove supernatural is afoot.

Is this the spirit that forced you to inhale continuously for three minutes? I'm sorry, but this is physically impossible (unless perhaps you are a professional sponge diver). The only person controlling your breath and blood flow is you.

To be realistic, I could be dealing with a bunch of religious spirits who replicate signs of Christ with no real outcome. So far I've witnessed raised dead? 2 healings and 75 pieces of art intended for charity. I can't overlook that something so positive is afoot. The fact that they harp on about Angels, creatures and the devil, I'd say if there is a spirit world, that sort of conversation would be their norm.

Are these the 75 pieces of art crammed into the space of a few centimetres? Please post a couple of these images but don't tell us what you think they represent. Let's see if we can identify them.

As for the spirits harping on about "Angels, creatures and the devil", the reason you hear them talking about such things is because YOU are obsessed with them.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Hell, why not just have the spirit world tip over a chair, under controlled conditions.

We know they can move goalposts.

 

[Agatha]

H. Samuels are not experts in jewellery, they are just a retailer of cheap stuff. If you take your diamonds to a shop for appraisal, you should probably consider choosing an independent rather than a branch of a chain.

 

[Cassidy]

Is this the spirit that forced you to inhale continuously for three minutes? I'm sorry, but this is physically impossible (unless perhaps you are a professional sponge diver). The only person controlling your breath and blood flow is you.



Are these the 75 pieces of art crammed into the space of a few centimetres? Please post a couple of these images but don't tell us what you think they represent. Let's see if we can identify them.

As for the spirits harping on about "Angels, creatures and the devil", the reason you hear them talking about such things is because YOU are obsessed with them.

Of course it's impossible, but the breath flowed beyond my lungs thankfully. I'm far from obsessed or impressed with creatures and devils but Angels? how can I not be impressed.