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I can't send you details til I prove it. You believe the press didn't interview family members. I can prove that when it's exposed in the press. Then I can come collect. Is that right?

...and when it doesn't happen, Loss Leader collects. (Well, I suspect Loss Leader will name a certain charity, but we'll have to wait on that.)

The only thing left to agree upon is a reasonable time limit.
 
You know the way you can sort of see some kind of face in this image of what is actually just random noise?

That's what we call pareidolia.

Yes and then they started giving images of my family members to show it isn't paredolia
 
I can't send you details til I prove it. You believe the press didn't interview family members. I can prove that when it's exposed in the press. Then I can come collect. Is that right?


I'll up the amount to $200.
 
I can't speak for the spirits, last time I tried it turned into some crazy tit-for-tat and they got upset by it. I'll certainly ask them before I turn in (which is about now)

May I ask why your father becomes upset at the prospect of repeating a couple of sentences?
 
...and when it doesn't happen, Loss Leader collects. (Well, I suspect Loss Leader will name a certain charity, but we'll have to wait on that.)

The only thing left to agree upon is a reasonable time limit.

It's not really fair on the charity if a time limit is in place.
 
It's not really fair on the charity if a time limit is in place.

Please explain how that is unfair to the charity. On the other hand, it is totally unfair to Loss Leader if no time limit is set. You have an eternity to produce your evidence.
 
How do more examples of pareidolia show it isn't pareidolia?

If none of this evidence here constitutes as a pass, what else can? Personally I'll be taking my chances with reality rather than what I've been taught to learn. I can't see any logic to hearing my Fathers voice emitting from many PC's other than for what it is, a voice that belongs to my late Father
 
Please explain how that is unfair to the charity. On the other hand, it is totally unfair to Loss Leader if no time limit is set. You have an eternity to produce your evidence.

Your right there, we do have an eternity, all of us. I don't know how the press work, so I've no idea a time.
 
I havn't asked them. I said I will ask though.

Don't you think it's suspicious that these "spirits" are so eager to claim their presence by engaging in long, involved conversations... but get all twisted up the instant objective standards are even suggested?

I sure do.
 
You've been told many times what would constitute objective evidence. Very obvious examples of pareidolia are only evidence of paredolia, no matter how many you produce.

It may be paredolia to you but I know my Father's voice when I hear it. I get images, with audio paredolia explaining the images. For others to hear. They are telling the P.I team events before they take place. To hand wave all this away as paredolia is completely ridiculous.
 
It's not really fair on the charity if a time limit is in place.


I'll up it to a cool million if you can produce proof within 72 hours.

Do I have a million dollars?

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Don't you think it's suspicious that these "spirits" are so eager to claim their presence by engaging in long, involved conversations... but get all twisted up the instant objective standards are even suggested?

I sure do.

No I don't. I did at first, I thought they were the desperate ones, and that's clearly not the case. They'll choose to do what they choose to do, and who to do it with. I've no control over that.
 
I'll up it to a cool million if you can produce proof within 72 hours.

Do I have a million dollars?

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Yes.

Please keep it real. I can't match that. $200 is my max. I wish I had more, I'd give it away. Are you serious? If you are I'll sort this tomorrow. What constitutes as a pass? (I was nearly going to bed then)
 
It may be paredolia to you but I know my Father's voice when I hear it. I get images, with audio paredolia explaining the images. For others to hear. They are telling the P.I team events before they take place. To hand wave all this away as paredolia is completely ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is attributing meaning to obvious examples of pareidolia in the absence of objective evidence.

If your voices are really predicting the future then you can design an objective test protocol to prove it. But whenever this is suggested your voices make excuses and get upset, which suggests that at some level you know they are all in your imagination.
 
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