Latest Bigfoot "evidence"

[Rincewind]

There was a story on the BFF about someone collapsing in a heap when Bigfoot approached. It was clearly a case of Cataplexy probably due to Narcolepsy.

Often Cataplexy is brought on by extreme fright or extreme laughter. The person is fully conscious (as was the case in the BFF story), but unable to move their involuntary muscles. Their breathing and heart beat continue. They are able to see what is going on around them. Many of the footers that this has happened to, will not agree with this as a diagnosis, because they don't want to be labeled as a Narcoleptic. Therefore Bigfoot has infrasound and zapped them, causing them to collapse.

"Cataplexy" - obviously cats do this as well....

 

[kid meatball]

I think what the poster was referring to wrt big cat infrasound rays is the idea that big cat roars and growls contain infrasound frequencies. There are a few (one?) studies that have shown humans can feel great anxiety when presented with tones in around 17 - 18hz, just under the range of hearing. It is thought that this might be a evolutionary hold over from our origins of meaty cat toy.

 

[Dinwar]

There's only one animal I'm aware of that uses sound as a weapon: the acid-trip horror that is the mantis shrimp. Or at least some of the species of mantis shrimp. They can snap their claws so loudly that it causes a bubble that collapses at extraordinarily high temperatures, and gives off light.

The link is to wikipedia. There's also a rather hillarious web comic about these creatures.

As for big cats, I've never heard any credible evidence of them "zapping" anything with sound. Freezing in place is a typical fear response, which takes advantage of cryptocoloration and can often hide prey from a predator. It doesn't take sound to do this, either. I remember taking our dog (a therapy dog, as part of his training) to a zoo. The mountain lions were sleeping, and some punk kid was talking about how they weren't very impressive. Then the cat got a whiff of the dog, and another cat--that none of us had seen--jumped to the bars of its cage. When it put its paw on the bars that kid, and everyone around him, realized that the only reason the cat was inside the cage was that the cat WANTED to be inside the cage. We all took a step back, then stood completely still for a minute to see what the cat's next move was. It wouldn't have done any good--there were 20 or so of us, and the cat had quite obviously seen us--but we did it anyway. Fortunately (and unknown to us at the time) that zoo had a program where big cats and large breeds of dogs would play together in an obsticle course, and the cat was thinking "Playtime!!!!" The lioness, on the other hand, was legitimately stalking the dog later that day.

 

[William Parcher]

There was a story on the BFF about someone collapsing in a heap when Bigfoot approached. It was clearly a case of Cataplexy probably due to Narcolepsy.

How do you know that the collapsing bit wasn't a lie added to make the story more believable or more like other Bigfoot stories?

 

[Drewbot]

The teller seemed truly afraid of what had happened to him and even PM'd me for more info about Narcolepsy with Cataplexy.

 

[William Parcher]

Are you talking about WGBH hunting in the deer blind?

 

[Drewbot]

No.

 

[Drewbot]

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/12/this-is-what-its-like-to-get-zapped-by.html

Cataplexy is a REM sleep disorder. Your muscles think you are dreaming, so they instigate sleep paralysis, while your mind is fully awake. Emotions trigger it.

Look at this example http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/12/this-is-what-its-like-to-get-zapped-by.html

Bigfoot researchers reported feelings of being disorientated and sleepiness after being zapped by infrasound.

No REM Sleep imbalances here. Many of these are probably lies, but the basis of the infrasound causing collapse was probably started by someone who actually experienced Cataplexy while looking for Bigfoot. They got really scared and collapsed, when their buddy came over to them, they were like "Man I must have gotten zapped or something, I need a nap"

 

[Northern Lights]

And instead of just driving by, why don't you proffer your opinion?

I'm on the fence on this topic. While I've spoken to many people that have had varying experiences, including one of my own, it's difficult to fathom that they have the ability to emit something that is the cause of what has been described to me.

My personal experience was on a bright sunny day in 2010, about 11:30 in the morning, walking along a trail with a friend not far from where I had my thermal sighting last September. All of a sudden, I had what I can only describe as a panic attack. I turned 180 degrees and froze. I could hear the pulse in my ear lobes, my legs were tingling and was breathing very rapidly. The feeling of fright went throughout my body. This lasted about 5 minutes before it dissipated and I was able to continue my walk. I have no idea what happened and my friend, who was about 20 feet behind me, was completely unaffected.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes. Although it never happened before nor since and I've been out in the field many, many times.

Although there are other animals with the ability to use infra sound, there is no evidence that any primate has that ability. Suggesting that Sasquatch has that ability seems dubious to me and is a bit convenient to explain something that might be a simple case of hysteria (or cataplexy).

I just don't know, but I'm enjoying reading what is being written.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

I'm on the fence on this topic. While I've spoken to many people that have had varying experiences, including one of my own, it's difficult to fathom that they have the ability to emit something that is the cause of what has been described to me.
My personal experience was on a bright sunny day in 2010, about 11:30 in the morning, walking along a trail with a friend not far from where I had my
thermal sighting last September. All of a sudden, I had what I can only describe as a panic attack. I turned 180 degrees and froze. I could hear the pulse in my ear lobes, my legs were tingling and was breathing very rapidly. The feeling of fright went throughout my body. This lasted about 5 minutes before it dissipated and I was able to continue my walk. I have no idea what happened and my friend, who was about 20 feet behind me, was completely unaffected.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes. Although it never happened before nor since and I've been out in the field many, many times.

Although there are other animals with the ability to use infra sound, there is no evidence that any primate has that ability. Suggesting that Sasquatch has that ability seems dubious to me and is a bit convenient to explain something that might be a simple case of hysteria (or cataplexy).

I just don't know, but I'm enjoying reading what is being written.

"Hysteria" being the keyword here...

 

[River]

I'm on the fence on this topic. While I've spoken to many people that have had varying experiences, including one of my own, it's difficult to fathom that they have the ability to emit something that is the cause of what has been described to me.

My personal experience was on a bright sunny day in 2010, about 11:30 in the morning, walking along a trail with a friend not far from where I had my thermal sighting last September. All of a sudden, I had what I can only describe as a panic attack. I turned 180 degrees and froze. I could hear the pulse in my ear lobes, my legs were tingling and was breathing very rapidly. The feeling of fright went throughout my body. This lasted about 5 minutes before it dissipated and I was able to continue my walk. I have no idea what happened and my friend, who was about 20 feet behind me, was completely unaffected.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes. Although it never happened before nor since and I've been out in the field many, many times.

Although there are other animals with the ability to use infra sound, there is no evidence that any primate has that ability. Suggesting that Sasquatch has that ability seems dubious to me and is a bit convenient to explain something that might be a simple case of hysteria (or cataplexy).

I just don't know, but I'm enjoying reading what is being written.

Sounds like you did a pretty good job at self diagnosis. What in the world would make you believe what you experienced had anything to do with bigfoot? Wouldnt your friend have heard or experienced something as well if he was only 20 feet away? Do you know something about sound frequencies and how they travel through the air?

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

"An incredible end to a year of activity that has set a new level of interaction with the sasquatch people and our forest friend Nephatia.

We continue to progress our unique situation showing that these are not the perceived apes as many portray, but rather a people, an older more refined and evolved people that don’t rely on technology for their existence.

Sasquatch are a species that live in harmony with the earth and the universe.

Hopefully the ignorance of the human race changes its course in the very near future and grasps the understanding of our older brother. Sasquatch people are the key to the evolution of mankind. Those that refuse to change their perspective will continue to fail in their progress and understanding while the few that allow an open mind will gain insight and understanding.

This situation brings out emotion in people due to the authenticity of it. Whether it be anger or happiness, truth makes people react."

-Sasquatch Ontario


I'm sorry, but this ***** is getting old. Who are these muppets known as Sasquatch Ontario?

"Truth makes people react," really? and judging by social networking sites like FB and Twitter, people tend to react to nothing short of absolute bollocks aswell, here I am reacting to bollocks right now.

 

[barehl]

There's only one animal I'm aware of that uses sound as a weapon: at least some of the species of mantis shrimp. They can snap their claws so loudly that it causes a bubble that collapses

You're close. The cavitation bubbles on mantis shrimp (Order, Stomapoda) are secondary to being struck by the front claws. The ones you are thinking of are snapping shrimp (Order, Decapoda) which attack entirely by snapping their claws without actually touching the target.

 

[The Shrike]

NL, please do some research on "panic attacks". I think you'll find that this is a quite common experience shared by millions of people. There's no reason to suspect that you might be immune to them, so that should be your working hypothesis.

 

[Resume]

I'm on the fence on this topic. While I've spoken to many people that have had varying experiences, including one of my own, it's difficult to fathom that they have the ability to emit something that is the cause of what has been described to me.

My personal experience was on a bright sunny day in 2010, about 11:30 in the morning, walking along a trail with a friend not far from where I had my thermal sighting last September. All of a sudden, I had what I can only describe as a panic attack. I turned 180 degrees and froze. I could hear the pulse in my ear lobes, my legs were tingling and was breathing very rapidly. The feeling of fright went throughout my body. This lasted about 5 minutes before it dissipated and I was able to continue my walk. I have no idea what happened and my friend, who was about 20 feet behind me, was completely unaffected.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes. Although it never happened before nor since and I've been out in the field many, many times.

Although there are other animals with the ability to use infra sound, there is no evidence that any primate has that ability. Suggesting that Sasquatch has that ability seems dubious to me and is a bit convenient to explain something that might be a simple case of hysteria (or cataplexy).

I just don't know, but I'm enjoying reading what is being written.

Many people suffer panic attacks; why not in the woods? Nothing else needed to explain your experience.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes.

You explained it yourself.

 

[Jodie]

There's only one animal I'm aware of that uses sound as a weapon: the acid-trip horror that is the mantis shrimp. Or at least some of the species of mantis shrimp. They can snap their claws so loudly that it causes a bubble that collapses at extraordinarily high temperatures, and gives off light.

The link is to wikipedia. There's also a rather hillarious web comic about these creatures.

I thought you were kidding.....glad they aren't very large.

 

[Jodie]

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/12/this-is-what-its-like-to-get-zapped-by.html

Cataplexy is a REM sleep disorder. Your muscles think you are dreaming, so they instigate sleep paralysis, while your mind is fully awake. Emotions trigger it.

Look at this example http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/12/this-is-what-its-like-to-get-zapped-by.html



No REM Sleep imbalances here. Many of these are probably lies, but the basis of the infrasound causing collapse was probably started by someone who actually experienced Cataplexy while looking for Bigfoot. They got really scared and collapsed, when their buddy came over to them, they were like "Man I must have gotten zapped or something, I need a nap"

It says that Narcolepsy is under diagnosed but the going rate is 1 in 3000 people. It's also tied to obesity, which you seem to see a lot of in bigfoot researchers, it is also a cause for depression.

So we might have a bunch of footers that actually have other physical disorders contributing to promoting the myth? Which would explain why some are so earnest with their claims.

They really are experiencing something just not bigfoot. But since it's in the context of looking for a creature that could potentially be dangerous, outside of their regular sleeping pattern, they experience the cataplexy that is associated with prolonged untreated narcolepsy.

It certainly would explain the infrasound rumors. It would be interesting to see how many regular footers out there are diagnosed with the problem if you could ever get them to follow up with testing.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

It says that Narcolepsy is under diagnosed but the going rate is 1 in 3000 people. It's also tied to obesity which you seem to see a lot of in bigfoot researchers, it also is a cause for depression.

So we might have a bunch of footers that actually have other physical disorders contributing to promoting the myth? Which would explain why some are so earnest with their claims.

They really are experiencing something just not bigfoot. But since it's in the context of looking for a creature that could potentially be dangerous, outside of their regular sleeping pattern, they experience the cataplexy that is associated with prolonged untreated narcolepsy.

It certainly would explain the infrasound rumors. It would be interesting to see how many regular footers out there are diagnosed with the problem if you could ever get them to follow up with testing.

IMHO, most, if not all, people who claim to have seen Sasquatch are spinning straight up yarns, the others are mistaken.

 

[Jodie]

I'm on the fence on this topic. While I've spoken to many people that have had varying experiences, including one of my own, it's difficult to fathom that they have the ability to emit something that is the cause of what has been described to me.

My personal experience was on a bright sunny day in 2010, about 11:30 in the morning, walking along a trail with a friend not far from where I had my thermal sighting last September. All of a sudden, I had what I can only describe as a panic attack. I turned 180 degrees and froze. I could hear the pulse in my ear lobes, my legs were tingling and was breathing very rapidly. The feeling of fright went throughout my body. This lasted about 5 minutes before it dissipated and I was able to continue my walk. I have no idea what happened and my friend, who was about 20 feet behind me, was completely unaffected.

It's entirely possible I just freaked myself out and lost it for a few minutes. Although it never happened before nor since and I've been out in the field many, many times.

Although there are other animals with the ability to use infra sound, there is no evidence that any primate has that ability. Suggesting that Sasquatch has that ability seems dubious to me and is a bit convenient to explain something that might be a simple case of hysteria (or cataplexy).

I just don't know, but I'm enjoying reading what is being written.

I think it was Steve Kulls, not sure if I have my source correct, but he described his experience as starting with a fluttering sound within his ear. He's easy to find on the web, maybe you should email him.

But if you have insurance, I'ld start with a sleep study. That way you could rule that out as a cause for whatever happened to you.

 

[LTC8K6]

Is there any evidence that infrasound has any effect on humans?

The only thing I can recall right off is the Mythbusters episode that tested for the effect of low frequency sound on humans and found none.