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9/11 No Planers who claim no planes struck the WTC, and think all the video is fake

jaydeehess said:
Yes, and this relates to an aircraft hitting a steel framed wall, how?
I certainly never expect the F4 to enter the concrete block. However the floor pans of the WTC were only 4 inches thick. It matters not that they were 100 feet between perimeter and core except to say that it not likely to be destroyed for that entire depth.
Still awaiting an explanation that makes a modicum of sense using known physics
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4in is plenty. There were eight pans to meets the plane on a **** load of trusses aligned to the planes path They were partitioned. They carried live weight. They were going nowhere. It's like a collision with a solid.
 
Mikeys said:
4in is plenty. There were eight pans to meets the plane on a **** load of trusses aligned to the planes path They were partitioned. They carried live weight. They were going nowhere. It's like a collision with a solid.
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Absolutely wrong. You have NO idea what you're talking about. Nothing is more frustrating than somebody who has no clue saying they do
 
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Mikeys said:
The steel columns where they met pans were impregnable to anything that would hit them.
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Please provide evidence supporting your claim. Remember, you need to use actual facts not woo.

The whole building backed it behind. How can you go through that? With a hologram, your only option.
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Giant leap to conclusion.

Holograms don't create holes across multiple floors.
 
Mikeys said:
The steel columns where they met pans were impregnable to anything that would hit them. The whole building backed it behind. How can you go through that? With a hologram, your only option. In actuality I wanted to talk about the 3d animation made for the networks until you sidetracked me. Guess I will never learn.
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The plane breaks up, so why can't the parts continue on through the open office space, breaking up further as they encounter more columns?
 
LSSBB said:
The plane breaks up, so why can't the parts continue on through the open office space, breaking up further as they encounter more columns?
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Parts can but the plane as a whole has to stop at the pans, that is at their furtherest extension, which is the wall. Fireball at the wall, streetside.
 
Mikeys said:
The steel columns where they met pans were impregnable to anything that would hit them. The whole building backed it behind. How can you go through that? With a hologram, your only option. In actuality I wanted to talk about the 3d animation made for the networks until you sidetracked me. Guess I will never learn.
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And the bullet had the entire toilet to go through, yet it did anyway. All that toilet backed behind it, and it went through with ease.

Do tell me, is it only the towers that were impregnable, or are others as well?
 
TheRedWorm said:
And the bullet had the entire toilet to go through, yet it did anyway. All that toilet backed behind it, and it went through with ease.

Do tell me, is it only the towers that were impregnable, or are others as well?
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I wasn't thinking impregnable like an irresistible absolute or something, more like within reason and in context of a plane impact
 
Mikeys said:
they do when paired with explosives. The hole is a fake. Why would you gut the building with explosives at the impact level. Overkill
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How come explosives can penetrate the building but a honking huge plane traveling near bullet speeds can't? Do you have any idea how much energy the impacts would impart?
 
Mikeys said:
I wasn't thinking impregnable like an irresistible absolute or something, more like within reason and in context of a plane impact
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Well that's an entirely reasonable attitude. The next thing to establish might be what behaviour is within reason for those columns and concrete floor pans when 100+ tons of stuff arrives at over 500 mph.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Well that's an entirely reasonable attitude. The next thing to establish might be what behaviour is within reason for those columns and concrete floor pans when 100+ tons of stuff arrives at over 500 mph.
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Since it is probably the first complement, and the last I got here I will try to stay reasonable.
The facade opens up, floors fold like spaghetti, the plane goes in, fireworks.
 
DGM said:
And that would be the only way? A truck smaller than a bridge (no idea what faster would mean) can not take one down? Don't lie now, be honest.
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Which bridge, where. You are puffing clouds and want a straight answer.
 
LSSBB said:
You said the whole has to stop but not the parts. When the plane breaks up, it is no longer whole. It is in parts. Or do you think that there are parts, plus a whole plane?
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In the cartoons that he bases his ideas on people and things often get ripped to shreds and then magically restored.
 
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