Merged Newtown (Sandy Hook) Shooting Conspiracy Theories In 3..2..1....

Perhaps CM should provide us a list of approved reactions to tragedy. That would ensure future grieving parents only respond to the horror of losing a child properly.
 
Craig4 said:
Perhaps CM should provide us a list of approved reactions to tragedy. That would ensure future grieving parents only respond to the horror of losing a child properly.
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This is the same sort of argument from incredulity that CM uses to deny the Holocaust, by the way. He claims that Da Joos didn't react in the right sort of way for mass murder of their people to be real. He seems to have an odd fixation with the way people "should have" reacted to tragic events, as if he fancies himself some sort of expert on human psychology. So tell us, Mr. Moore, where did you get your psychiatric license?
 
thedopefishlives said:
This is the same sort of argument from incredulity that CM uses to deny the Holocaust, by the way. He claims that Da Joos didn't react in the right sort of way for mass murder of their people to be real. He seems to have an odd fixation with the way people "should have" reacted to tragic events, as if he fancies himself some sort of expert on human psychology. So tell us, Mr. Moore, where did you get your psychiatric license?
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Here.
 
Robrob said:
That's "False Flag" CT 101. Complain about conspiracies and government plots without ever actually explaining what they think really happened. It saves so much time.
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Same thing they do with JFK. I have never seen a CT produce a start to finish narrative of what they think happened. All they do is poke holes in the Official Story. Which can be done to any historical event.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Because it's obviously a lie.
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So you want to see a "manufactured" video so you have further proof that the whole thing is a lie. I get that. But obviously you don't need further proof yourself. And the people who think as you do don't need further proof.

Those of us who know that horrifying events actually do happen and that this was one of the most horrifying of our time are not likely to be convinced that the whole thing was a hoax by a "manufactured" video of a kid getting out of a car with some guns. What about that is going to make us say "Whoa, hold on here folks!" Are your hoaxers so inept that they can't produce a convincing video of a kid exiting a car and shooting out a window?

So there is really nothing to be gained other than for you and your minions (mostly your minions from my observation, since I have not seen YOU actually produce original analysis of these 'faked' events) to sit around trying to find people in blue and white shirts or some supposed inconsistency or oddity in the shadows of stills taken from a video and cut into idiotic youtube offerings.
 
Nervous laughter is a well known normal human reaction to stress. What normal person wouldn't know or recognize this for what it was?
 
Robrob said:
Nervous laughter is a well known normal human reaction to stress. What normal person wouldn't know or recognize this for what it was?
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It doesn't matter. if they cried really badly these armchair ghouls would claim they were professional mourners, straight out of history.

They want to believe the gubmit dunnit, so they will continue to pick the dots they want to connect, and if that fails they will color in the dots themselves and connect them.
 
LSSBB said:
It doesn't matter. if they cried really badly these armchair ghouls would claim they were professional mourners, straight out of history.

They want to believe the gubmit dunnit, so they will continue to pick the dots they want to connect, and if that fails they will color in the dots themselves and connect them.
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Reminds me of the CT following the Kenyan mall massacre. Apparently the bright red arterial blood was too bright red for the "medical experts" sitting in front of their computer screen.
 
So-called "inconsistencies" are not evidence of a cover-up.

Clayton, where is your positive evidence that points toward Sandy Hook being a hoax? Not YouTube videos showing the parents of victims laughing, not accusations that the proper legal procedure was not followed, positive evidence showing a single identifiable person being hired to pose as a Sandy Hook victim.

Who hired the actors? Where are the actors now? Who were they before? What are their real names? How were they recruited? Who held auditions? Who paid them? Where did the money to pay them come from? Where are the bank slips? Who bought the props? Who supplied the props?

Where are the documents planning the tragedy? Who wrote the script? Who directed the event? Was it filmed in advance or was it filmed live? What department of the government was in charge of directing this "false-flag event"? Who proposed the idea?

Are the actors still taking acting jobs? Are they being forced to pretend they aren't actors and live fake lives in Connecticut? How was the government able to find a large amount of adults and children willing to leave their lives behind and pretend to be victims of a tragic shooting? Why did none of them blow the whistle on the operation? Where did they come from? Why didn't their family members notice they were on TV pretending to be someone else? Why didn't their family members blow the whistle?

To pull of an operation like this requires a very large amount of people and a very large amount of money, which seemingly was produced from thin air and left absolutely no evidence behind besides crocodile tears and YouTube video analyses of video footage.

Clayton, where's the positive evidence of a cover-up?
 
CM, maybe you missed this earlier.

I live in Connecticut, about a half hour from Newtown.

I have co-workers who had kids in that school. My parish priest baptized some of those kids. He also presided at some of their funerals.

I have real-world knowledge of this tragedy that you can never hope to have. Real people died that day. Real parents sat in their offices and worried that their kids might not come home. I know you're probably sitting at your computer thinking you've scored troll points by upsetting me, but the fact is I'm not upset. I'm just very sad for people whose worldview is so distorted that they think there's a CIA agent behind every bush, a Mossad agent in every SUV, NSA microphones on every telephone. How awful your lives must be.
 
jhunter1163 said:
CM, maybe you missed this earlier.

I live in Connecticut, about a half hour from Newtown.

I have co-workers who had kids in that school. My parish priest baptized some of those kids. He also presided at some of their funerals.
I have real-world knowledge of this tragedy that you can never hope to have. Real people died that day. Real parents sat in their offices and worried that their kids might not come home. I know you're probably sitting at your computer thinking you've scored troll points by upsetting me, but the fact is I'm not upset. I'm just very sad for people whose worldview is so distorted that they think there's a CIA agent behind every bush, a Mossad agent in every SUV, NSA microphones on every telephone. How awful your lives must be.
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You posted but you didn't say anything.


In a culture, in the US, where lying till you can't anymore has become the norm, you still believe or portray that you believe that the government and corporate are still good guys until proven guilty without a SHADOW of doubt.

What does your real world knowledge say about the dearth of emergency vehicles in the parking lot?


http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Sandy-Hook-cover-up-conspiracy-and-common-sense.aspx


I notice that left-wing media (Salon, for example) have started to counterattack. They do this in a shallow, sophistical way. At the end I feel that the discrepancy is more of a problem than it was before they claimed to refute it. Here is a short, rather entertaining video by ReviewManify that sums up the commonsense indictment of our media. Nothing that Salon says lays a glove on what this guy said 10 days ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lD7TR8tX...
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My own nomination for worst discrepancy is the "raw helicopter footage" that appeared a few weeks ago. We see the front of the school in the minutes after the shooting. Ambulances coming and going? Bodies carried out on gurneys? No, none of that. Everything is rather peaceful. It's as if somebody in charge had perfect psychic powers and was able to tell that all the victims were dead, so why bother with resuscitation protocols? Why bother taking anyone to the ER? (I wrote a piece called "Sandy Hook Shooting: which is the biggest discrepancy?" It analyzes this paradoxical scene and gives several relevant links. http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-ho...

Speaking of new discrepancies coming in every day, people have just noticed that the two rows of cars parked in front of the school are all pointed in the same direction. Has that ever happened in the history of the world?
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http://www.rantrave.com/userimages/posts/12920___Selected.jpg?032600

You see in the photo of the Parker family that one little girl has only four fingers, a thumb moved from one side to the other, and she's making the Devil sign. Did I mention, Newtown is said to be one of the county's hotbeds of Satanism? Is the photo a discrepancy for you or irrelevant? Either way, this video from Jan. 2 is weird but gives a good sense of the complexity we're dealing with. http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theo...
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What does your real world knowledge say about Adam being recorded as dead on December 13? The day before he committed suicide?

What does your real world knowledge say about the resuscitation protocols not being followed?
 
jhunter1163 said:
CM, maybe you missed this earlier.

I live in Connecticut, about a half hour from Newtown.

I have co-workers who had kids in that school. My parish priest baptized some of those kids. He also presided at some of their funerals.

I have real-world knowledge of this tragedy that you can never hope to have. Real people died that day. Real parents sat in their offices and worried that their kids might not come home. I know you're probably sitting at your computer thinking you've scored troll points by upsetting me, but the fact is I'm not upset. I'm just very sad for people whose worldview is so distorted that they think there's a CIA agent behind every bush, a Mossad agent in every SUV, NSA microphones on every telephone. How awful your lives must be.
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http://realquestionsnow.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/sandy-hook-the-clean-crime-scene/

Sandy Hook: The Clean Crime Scene


THE CLEAN CRIME SCENE:

The scene at Sandy Hook looks like a carefully crafted emergency drill. All of the emergency vehicles were lined up perfectly for photography shots. A helicopter is used for an aerial view of police chasing another law enforcement officer (later turned out to be an off-duty SWAT officer from another district wearing camo pants and dark jacket, Newtown Bee) as if to throw people off and confuse the story with the amount of gunmen involved. Again for a night scene, there is a helicopter used for the night scene showing a cop taking a shotgun (SAIGA 12) out of the trunk of allegedly Lanza’s vehicle but there were no aerial shots of children being escorted out of the school to the fire department except for the one photo showing about a dozen children.
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WHERE IS THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERA FOOTAGE? The school had a new security system for their front door with video surveillance cameras and would alert the authorities of a break-in. It was a fully closed-in campus that even parents would need to show a photo ID at the front door and then be buzzed into the school after an administrator identified the person. According to the official story, Lanza shot through the glass door to get into the school. Why have we not seen any of this damage or the surveillance video of this? We have seen a lot of graphics and diagrams and aerial footage of the school, but no real photography of the damage. We saw many graphics and diagrams of Sandy Hook Elementary like we did after the Osama bin Laden raid on May 1, 2011.

Sandy Hook Security Policy

If Lanza had blown open the front entrance of the school, why did police chief “Kehoe” say the school was completely locked down and needed to break into the school? He was one of the first police officers on the scene, within minutes of a 911 call. Interview available at CBS News:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50137654n

Kehoe: “We needed to break into the school to get in, because the back doors are secured”.
Reporter: “How did you get it? open?”
Kehoe: “Broke out the window” (shaking head, tightly pursed lips/frown).
Why did they not see the front door glass BLOWN OUT if Lanza shot through the door? e/
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It seems odd that CM's evidence so often has question marks behind it. You'd think he'd understand that evidence doesn't end in a question mark. It also doesn't rely on psychic powers to determine what someone is thinking but one must manage expectations when dealing with his sort.
 
Clayton, if you want the surveillance footage, why haven't you gone to the people who have it and asked nicely for a copy?

Clayton, if they could fake a tragedy like this, why couldn't they fake surveillance footage? Hollywood shoots fake crimes all the time. Why were the people who orchestrated this unable to fake surveillance camera footage of Lanza?

Clayton, if someone supplied surveillance camera footage of Lanza, why do I believe you would just dismiss it as fake, like you've dismissed every single account of the Sandy Hook shooting so far?

Clayton, where is the positive evidence that the Sandy Hook shooting is a false-flag event orchestrated by the government?
 
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