On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)

[BasqueArch]

I'm still betting on performance art. We've just seen it in the General Skepticism section on another topic. People here are predictable and rise to the bait. If SHC really believes what he espouses, then he's a solipsist. Which is interesting in a dope-smoking dorm room kind of way, but not in real life.

Haaaaa Right-O. Dope-smoking dorm room hey what if our universe is really small and we are just atoms orbiting some other dude's universe -woah.

It’s Performance Fart Selective Solipsism. For example in order to prove that thousands of people can keep a conspiracy without one saying no and spilling the beans and that tens of thousands of others not in the conspiracy did not notice something amiss and also didn’t say anything, he invented (earlier on some thread no I’m no looking for it) and we are to believe his bogus story of a dozen (not 11 not 13 but a pat coinkidink dozen) fellow employees that conspira-protested to more work by staging a slowdown to produce less than before. The boss cracked and reduced their work. Supposedly the boss didn’t notice the conspiracy (? yeah right) so why did he crack and not fire them? If 12 people I pay screw me I kick their ass to Iran.
Totally bogus false anonymous unsubstantiated SHC claim.
! Ha hahahahahahafarthahahah Ha … !

 

[carlitos]

Haaaaa Right-O. Dope-smoking dorm room hey what if our universe is really small and we are just atoms orbiting some other dude's universe -woah.

It’s Performance Fart Selective Solipsism. For example in order to prove that thousands of people can keep a conspiracy without one saying no and spilling the beans and that tens of thousands of others not in the conspiracy did not notice something amiss and also didn’t say anything, he invented (earlier on some thread no I’m no looking for it) and we are to believe his bogus story of a dozen (not 11 not 13 but a pat coinkidink dozen) fellow employees that conspira-protested to more work by staging a slowdown to produce less than before. The boss cracked and reduced their work. Supposedly the boss didn’t notice the conspiracy (? yeah right) so why did he crack and not fire them? If 12 people I pay screw me I kick their ass to Iran.
Totally bogus false anonymous unsubstantiated SHC claim.
! Ha hahahahahahafarthahahah Ha … !

I'll have what he's having.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

So, yes, a proper investigation, to the extent that it could be done there, was done at GZ.

At least, that's what you've been told and led to believe, but I see no evidence that a proper forensics investigation was ever started or finished at the World Trade Center site.

You're living in a fantasy world.

 

[newton3376]

At least, that's what you've been told and led to believe, but I see no evidence that a proper forensics investigation was ever started or finished at the World Trade Center site.

You do not see any evidence because....

1. You are not an Engineer

2. You are not a Scientist

3. You are not a Forensic Investigator

4. You are not a Law Enforcement Professional

5. You did not read and understand the FEMA reports, the 9/11 Commission reports, and the NIST reports. Add to that the many peer reviewed journal articles and independent studies/papers done by various individuals and organizations around the world.


The great thing about real life is that no one actually cares what the non expert amateurs think...so you saying that you have not seen any evidence doesn't really matter to anyone or change anything in the slightest.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

The great thing about real life is that no one actually cares what the non expert amateurs think.

Obviously you do care, otherwise you wouldn't have responded.

You're not going to sell anybody on your 9/11 conspiracy theory by attacking them.

 

[332nd]

SHC, why are the firefighters, policemen, iron workers, etc... not credible?

 

[000063]

Because they disagree with him.

Duh.

 

[Justin39640]

False. Because the burden of proof is on you, not me. You're the who claims to know exactly what happened.

Try again.

There's tens of thousands of pages explaining what happened (in reality). You only seem to have crickets when it comes to actually making a claim and defending it.

 

[twinstead]

Jesus, what more exactly do you need from us SHC? The commonly-held narrative, the one we generally support, has been presented and is available for the entire world to review and critique. The prosecution rests. Your turn.

Present something that makes more sense boy. We know the "official story" isn't absolutely perfect, but it makes pretty good damn sense to me, and I don't see any theory or narrative out there that makes more sense. This is your chance!

 

[tfk]

Newt,

"I don't see any evidence that ... [whatever] ...

You do not see any evidence because....

1. You are not an Engineer

2. You are not a Scientist

3. You are not a Forensic Investigator

4. You are not a Law Enforcement Professional

5. You did not read and understand the FEMA reports, the 9/11 Commission reports, and the NIST reports. Add to that the many peer reviewed journal articles and independent studies/papers done by various individuals and organizations around the world.


The great thing about real life is that no one actually cares what the non expert amateurs think...so you saying that you have not seen any evidence doesn't really matter to anyone or change anything in the slightest.

6. He sees only what he wants to see.

Just thought I'd help.

tom

 

[fess]

Obviously you do care, otherwise you wouldn't have responded.

You're not going to sell anybody on your 9/11 conspiracy theory by attacking them.

Certainly you are not claiming that by telling the truth, newton3376 is attacking you.

 

[RepresentativePress]

Interesting video, particularly when it goes careening off into an anti-Israel screed for no discrenable reason.

The video, "On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)", is crystal clear. We aren't allowed to talk about Israeli crimes? "no discernible reason" to be talking about Israel when we are discussing 9/11?! I explain exactly why: because the main motive why we were attacked was anger at US support of Israel's crimes. How is it you don't know that and even after watching the video you fail to grasp that?
See these videos in addition to the one you are complaining about:
"9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4
and "The Real 9/11 Conspiracy: Traitorous 9/11 Commissioners Served Israel Agenda" http://youtu.be/bzYM9ZnWsnk

 

[Jetblast]

Edit: Wrong Thread

 

[Robrob]

The video, "On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)", is crystal clear. We aren't allowed to talk about Israeli crimes? "no discernible reason" to be talking about Israel when we are discussing 9/11?! I explain exactly why: because the main motive why we were attacked was anger at US support of Israel's crimes. How is it you don't know that and even after watching the video you fail to grasp that?
See these videos in addition to the one you are complaining about:
"9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4
and "The Real 9/11 Conspiracy: Traitorous 9/11 Commissioners Served Israel Agenda" http://youtu.be/bzYM9ZnWsnk

Not to interrupt your rant with logic but the motive for 911 isn't an issue in debunking Truthers. Or do we need to debate Japan's motive for the attack on Pearl Harbor when debunking those CT as well?

 

[dafydd]

Edit: Wrong Thread

No problem We're used to truthers getting things wrong.

 

[BStrong]

The video, "On 9/11, WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern (controlled demolition debunked)", is crystal clear. We aren't allowed to talk about Israeli crimes? "no discernible reason" to be talking about Israel when we are discussing 9/11?! I explain exactly why: because the main motive why we were attacked was anger at US support of Israel's crimes. How is it you don't know that and even after watching the video you fail to grasp that?
See these videos in addition to the one you are complaining about:
"9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4
and "The Real 9/11 Conspiracy: Traitorous 9/11 Commissioners Served Israel Agenda" http://youtu.be/bzYM9ZnWsnk

We get it - you have a bad case of the ass with the Jews.

You're entitled to your opinion, and the rest of us are entitled to reject it.

 

[dafydd]

We get it - you have a bad case of the ass with the Jews.

You're entitled to your opinion, and the rest of us are entitled to reject it.

Are twoofers anti-Semtic before they join up or do they become so after they come into contact with the cult?

 

[aggle-rithm]

Are twoofers anti-Semtic before they join up or do they become so after they come into contact with the cult?

I think many conspiracy-minded people distrust cultures they don't understand and, to make matters worse, they lack the curiosity to learn anything about them.

 

[Robrob]

Are twoofers anti-Semtic before they join up or do they become so after they come into contact with the cult?

I think many conspiracy-minded people distrust cultures they don't understand and, to make matters worse, they lack the curiosity to learn anything about them.

It's always puzzled me. Why the obsession with "Teh Joos?"

I mean seriously, throughout history they've been butchered and maltreated by multiple nations and peoples. I don't think I've ever read a single account of them conducting any kind of genocide, pogrom, conquest, etc.... Except for the cultural/religious overlap with Christianity, they're basically the Gypsies (in regards to eternal scapegoating). It's like the Huns hating on the Swiss.

 

[dafydd]

It's always puzzled me. Why the obsession with "Teh Joos?"

I mean seriously, throughout history they've been butchered and maltreated by multiple nations and peoples. I don't think I've ever read a single account of them conducting any kind of genocide, pogrom, conquest, etc.... Except for the cultural/religious overlap with Christianity, they're basically the Gypsies (in regards to eternal scapegoating). It's like the Huns hating on the Swiss.

Jealousy comes into it too. The rank and file of truthers are mostly disaffected losers.